World War II’s Strangest Battle: When Americans and Germans Fought Together - Polidicks

wasnt there a battle where american soldiers fought against the russians in WW2

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;40643021]except the only reason we were there was because we were scared of another nations ideology and MacArthur needed to fill his yearly blood lust quota since he wasn't allowed to invade Japan at the end of WWII.[/QUOTE] Last time I checked, is that North Korea attacked South Korea, and South Korea asked for help to the United Nations, which send a massive task force, with the US on the lead.

[QUOTE=T553412;40646051]Last time I checked, is that North Korea attacked South Korea, and South Korea asked for help to the United Nations, which send a massive task force, with the US on the lead.[/QUOTE] And what would have happened if the South invaded the North? The only reason the US got involved was because the otherside was supported by the Soviet Union.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;40642727]no. we murdered north koreans and leftists and committed war crimes that people were hanged in the nuremberg trials for.[/QUOTE] We did the same thing in WWII. Actually we pretty much did and do lots of these things in every war ever.

[QUOTE=slayer64;40644950]Stop. Get it through your heads, people. It was WAR. People DIE in war, like it or not. Things aren't always black-and-white, sometimes horrendous shit has to be done for the greater good. It sounds cliché, I know, but it's true.[/QUOTE] I consider myself pretty conservative but nuking civs was sho-as-fuck not how to deal with Japan we were already kicking ass by islandhopping, should've given them a taste of nuclear power on a cleared island as a warning

[QUOTE=cccritical;40646498]I consider myself pretty conservative but nuking civs was sho-as-fuck not how to deal with Japan we were already kicking ass by islandhopping, should've given them a taste of nuclear power on a cleared island as a warning[/QUOTE] Truthfully the only reason they surrendered so quickly is because of two events, the A-Bombs and the Soviets destroying all of their armies in China / Manchuria. They rolled over them so quickly it scared the hell out of them. Last thing they wanted was the Soviets landing on the Japanese mainland.

[QUOTE=Deathgrunt;40645069]i just had a ideal When a American platoon finds a Germany castle that holds a secret that will could change everything,they find documents of codename :Iron Storm: the concept of army of power armored super soldiers and there a battalion of them coming right at them so they have no choice but to give several of the surrendered German soldiers prototypes of the power armor. so basely iron man but with Nazis[/QUOTE] That's more or less already a game, called Return to Castle Wolfenstein.

[QUOTE=cccritical;40646498]I consider myself pretty conservative but nuking civs was sho-as-fuck not how to deal with Japan we were already kicking ass by islandhopping, should've given them a taste of nuclear power on a cleared island as a warning[/QUOTE] While the nuclear drops were absolutely detestable they were necessary. The US had a complete blockade on the Japanese mainland and because of that thousands of Japanese were starving to death because there was no food inbound. The US was also burnt Tokyo and many other major cities to the ground with constant fire bombing raids. With their cities in ruins, the factories destroyed, their war machine demolished, and their entire populace starving to death, the Japanese would still not give up and surrender their war effort. The US did initial estimates on losses for a US invasion force on the Japanese mainland and they were estimated at around 1.2 million casualties in the first few months. It was considered that the entire populace of the Japanese mainland, including the elderly, women, and children, would be fighting fiercely against the US invasion force. If the US invaded it would have been an absolute genocide on the Japanese populace. In a sick way, the US dropping 2 nuclear weapons on mainland Japan saved lives.

[QUOTE=cccritical;40646498]I consider myself pretty conservative but nuking civs was sho-as-fuck not how to deal with Japan we were already kicking ass by islandhopping, should've given them a taste of nuclear power on a cleared island as a warning[/QUOTE] Those island hopping campaigns were too costly and even after BOTH the bombs fell many people still wanted to fight. It was indeed the correct response to Japan. I don't think you quite understand the lengths Japan was willing to go in that war. Thousands of people jumped off cliffs just to make sure they weren't captured. There was no other alternative to obtain an unconditional surrender.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;40646868]While the nuclear drops were absolutely detestable they were necessary. The US had a complete blockade on the Japanese mainland and because of that thousands of Japanese were starving to death because there was no food inbound. The US was also burnt Tokyo and many other major cities to the ground with constant fire bombing raids. With their cities in ruins, the factories destroyed, their war machine demolished, and their entire populace starving to death, the Japanese would still not give up and surrender their war effort. The US did initial estimates on losses for a US invasion force on the Japanese mainland and they were estimated at around 1.2 million casualties in the first few months. It was considered that the entire populace of the Japanese mainland, including the elderly, women, and children, would be fighting fiercely against the US invasion force. If the US invaded it would have been an absolute genocide on the Japanese populace. In a sick way, the US dropping 2 nuclear weapons on mainland Japan saved lives.[/QUOTE] don't go down this road it never ends well

Wow I didn't know this happened. This is why I find the second world war so interesting, sure you have the major battle campaigns, but I love hear stories of the small battles that you never really hear about.

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;40642698]Crazy battles like these are very interesting. There was another battle, if you could call it that, in WW1 on Christmas. [url]http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_truce[/url][/QUOTE] [url=http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0424205/]The movie based on this event[/url]

[QUOTE=Truckasaurus1;40647171]don't go down this road it never ends well[/QUOTE] The road of truth? Less lives were lost from the dropping of the A-bombs than would have been lost with a mainland invasion.

[QUOTE=MattSif;40643758]We established South Korea as a nation when we agreed to cut Korea in half with the Soviets. I don't see how they wouldn't be an ally in that case.[/QUOTE] Sorry but when any sentence that includes "we" and "decided" in context to the future of another antonymous nation, then no, they aren't your ally, they are a satellite. Nobody would have intervened were it not for the fact that it was specifically [I]communist[/I] aggression.

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;40647350]Sorry but when any sentence that includes "we" and "decided" in context to the future of another antonymous nation, then no, they aren't your ally, they are a satellite. Nobody would have intervened were it not for the fact that it was specifically [I]communist[/I] aggression.[/QUOTE] Who gives a shit? Look at what North Korea is now because of their backwards ideals, they brutalize and oppress their people as if it's Medieval times. South Korea is a gem while North Korea is basically a [b]shithole[/b]. Read up on the stories of the South Korean children that are assigned to clean the American cemeteries in South Korea, they clip the grass with scissors. [video=youtube;qd8LDdbfIFY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd8LDdbfIFY[/video]

[QUOTE=MattSif;40641336]Defending our ally in South Korea wasn't heroic?[/QUOTE] South Korea was under a dictatorship that was mass killing communists before the war even began. We targeted civilians and saw to hundreds of massacres or intended famines and destruction of villages.

[QUOTE=AnEvilGuy;40641728]While both being secretly Jewish homosexuals.[/QUOTE] Sir. You just won the internet