Canadian hate crime: muslims discover pile of bacon on their doorstep - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Killuah;37901923]Everyoe shrugged this off as a hacknayed inconvenience including the muslims in the OP and everyone in this thread, probably even the authorieties who had a good laugh but were required to investigate by law and then the fox came and got his pants in a twist.[/QUOTE] hi yeah, because muslims seem to get offended at the very sight of bacon, at which point i ask; why does religion hold such a strong grip on laws and on goverment, in a secular western land? even if this is not all of the cases reported, it still does show that there is some interest in it; and i merely ask why they feel offended by bacon, which all three abrahmic religions are prohibited from consuming, while the other two very rarely give a shit. [QUOTE=thisispain;37901946]it's not a hate crime. you should read the OP before posting it might do you some good[/QUOTE] [quote]Coquitlam RCMP are now [b]investigating a possible hate crime[/b] after someone left several piles of bacon and meat products on the door step of the mosque last week.[/quote] well then; my apologies; a suspected hate crime. my question still remains as to why this is treated as a hate crime, while I can easily leave a packet of bacon at the step of my local church, draw their cross upsidedown, or do the same to any jewish congrigation, without any backlash.

muslims don't get offended at the very sight of bacon, that's just something stupid you keep repeating. this mosque was targeted several times for vandalism. the police is just doing their job. how can you be against the police doing their job? [editline]3rd October 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=The fox;37901949] well then; my apologies; a suspected hate crime.[/QUOTE] it's a huge difference, one that you obviously have troubles identifying. they don't rule out the fact that it might be an act carried out to stigmatize the people in this mosque. considering they've been the victims of crimes before they have all the right to feel threatened.

I have a muslim in the family and he was ok with us eating pork and the article says they were dissapointed and disturbed, maybe over the waste of something that could be perfect food for people of other believes, not offended the one who is assuming people were offended so he can be offended by them being offended is you why are you so agressive ?

[QUOTE=thisispain;37901970]muslims don't get offended at the very sight of bacon, that's just something stupid you keep repeating. this mosque was targeted several times for vandalism. the police is just doing their job. how can you be against the police doing their job?[/QUOTE] I have never said that so I am not sure where you are pulling these assumptions from. Once again, I am questioning why muslims, out of the three abrahmic groups of which condemn the use of pork and bacon; to be the only ones to recieve such protection from it. i even have a friend whose muslim, had this article said "ok, they dropped bacon on our doorstep, theyre more than welcome to come learn about Islam" i would not have cared. but since the cops get involved and "omg this is as bad as burning a cross while wearing white hoodies" type of status, i am questioning why it is so. I dont care about the person; About the religion or so forth, its their own choice. I know god doesnt exist and thats that; but what im wondering is, why is islam treated so seperatedly from christianity and judaism; and all other religions of which might find the sight of pig to be insulting?

[QUOTE=The fox;37902012]I have never said that so I am not sure where you are pulling these assumptions from. Once again, I am questioning why muslims, out of the three abrahmic groups of which condemn the use of pork and bacon; to be the only ones to recieve such protection from it.[/QUOTE] uh they're not receiving protection dude???? the police is like there to stop vandalism and they're worried that this will motivate future acts of religious stigmatization, i mean that's just what i got out of it reading the OP and stuff if you're asking why muslims think pork is bad then cool that's not relevant though.

Please just.... stop complaining about something trivial and laugh about the article.

[QUOTE=The fox;37902012]I have never said that so I am not sure where you are pulling these assumptions from. Once again, I am questioning why muslims, out of the three abrahmic groups of which condemn the use of pork and bacon; to be the only ones to recieve such protection from it. i even have a friend whose muslim, had this article said "ok, they dropped bacon on our doorstep, theyre more than welcome to come learn about Islam" i would not have cared. but since the cops get involved and "omg this is as bad as burning a cross while wearing white hoodies" type of status, i am questioning why it is so. I dont care about the person; About the religion or so forth, its their own choice. I know god doesnt exist and thats that; but what im wondering is, why is islam treated so seperatedly from christianity and judaism; and all other religions of which might find the sight of pig to be insulting?[/QUOTE] We don't know you definitely got something here maybe you should contact the paper in Vancouver as well as the police.

[QUOTE=thisispain;37902035]uh they're not receiving protection dude???? the police is like there to stop vandalism and they're worried that this will motivate future acts of religious stigmatization, i mean that's just what i got out of it reading the OP and stuff if you're asking why muslims think pork is bad then cool that's not relevant though.[/QUOTE] afraid English isnt my mother tongue; albeit I do hope to master it someday; alas such is why I sometimes make mistakes such as these. What I meant is; Why are muslims so protected from the mere sight of pork, while I can leave a package of bacon outside of any Church or Synagogues; without any reprisal at all. I have already gone through why pork is unclean in my religious classes; though, none in my country gives a flying fuck about pork unless they are muslim. Which is why I am wondering; why? why just muslims? why do they have to have someone placing pork at their doorstep branded a hate crime?' jews and christians have it written in their holy books that no pork shall be consumed; for it is dirty. same as muslims. Though, obviously, if this is being investigated as a broader part of physical or mental damage done upon the Mosque, or its members, I can fully understand that. Though, as a seperate incident, it is ludicrous.

[QUOTE=The fox;37902070]afraid English isnt my mother tongue; albeit I do hope to master it someday; alas such is why I sometimes make mistakes such as these. What I meant is; Why are muslims so protected from the mere sight of pork, while I can leave a package of bacon outside of any Church or Synagogues; without any reprisal at all. I have already gone through why pork is unclean in my religious classes; though, none in my country gives a flying fuck about pork unless they are muslim. Which is why I am wondering; why? why just muslims? why do they have to have someone placing pork at their doorstep branded a hate crime?' jews and christians have it written in their holy books that no pork shall be consumed; for it is dirty. same as muslims.[/QUOTE] Maybe Christians and Jews are bad at religion since they do not follow their written laws they obviously need to get better at that you have another good point there we should write to some papers about that.

k english isn't your mother tongue i got that which is why i'll make sure i write this out again: The Police Is Worried That This Will Lead To More Vandalism Towards The Mosque, As It Has Done In The Past. There Is No Hate Crime Law Here, They're Just Investigating If It's Motivated By Religious Hate In Which Case It Should Be Taken More Seriously. no-one's being protected from anything lmao [editline]3rd October 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=The fox;37902070] Though, obviously, if this is being investigated as a broader part of physical or mental damage done upon the Mosque, or its members, I can fully understand that.[/QUOTE] then what's the issue???

Racially motivated breakfast meat depositing.

[QUOTE=thisispain;37902106] [editline]3rd October 2012[/editline] then what's the issue???[/QUOTE] The fact that any products made of pork, I can dig out the article from a few months back in which someone having a BBQ left some bacon strips behind, then there was a Islamic event at the same place, was branded a hate crime. I am wondering; Why? Why does muslims take it so seriously; why Judaism and Christianity does not.

[QUOTE=The fox;37902135]The fact that any products made of pork, I can dig out the article from a few months back in which someone having a BBQ left some bacon strips behind, then there was a Islamic event at the same place, was branded a hate crime. I am wondering; Why? Why does muslims take it so seriously; why Judaism and Christianity does not.[/QUOTE] uh Judaism does take it seriously i mean sure maybe not the reform jews who eat pork and shellfish like it's dying off next week, but serious religious Jews stay away from pork and shellfish. they have stricter dietary laws than the muslims do, that's for sure.

[QUOTE=The fox;37902135]The fact that any products made of pork, I can dig out the article from a few months back in which someone having a BBQ left some bacon strips behind, then there was a Islamic event at the same place, was branded a hate crime. I am wondering; Why? Why does muslims take it so seriously; why Judaism and Christianity does not.[/QUOTE] They do, I've seen shit like this on the news before except it was X and X religion or X and X cultural centre etc.

[QUOTE=thisispain;37902159]uh Judaism does take it seriously i mean sure maybe not the reform jews who eat pork and shellfish like it's dying off next week, but serious religious Jews stay away from pork and shellfish. they have stricter dietary laws than the muslims do, that's for sure.[/QUOTE] Perhaps so; Unfortunately I have only had the chance to meet, as far as I know, one jewish person throughout my life, in which it was religious class. While she did speak of their Torah and so forth; she also mentioned their eating habits, of which were not quite taken as serious matter as Islam has. i.e. they would hardly care if you showed them bacon or so forth; and I know Christians even eat it, even though the Bible states it is unclean; what I am wondering is, why does Islam have to have it taken so seriously that its branded a hate crime to merely have bacon within their proximity? Certainly, one should not have their own freedoms infringed upon, merely because a religious groups deems it so?

okay but one "judish" person doesn't speak for the entire jewish community, just as i don't either. jews have strict dietary laws.

judish Can you please stop making baseless assumptions over roughly 1 billion people and throwing a fit over these assumptions now? [editline]4th October 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=The fox;37902198]Perhaps so; Unfortunately I have only had the chance to meet, as far as I know, one jewish person throughout my life, in which it was religious class. While she did speak of their Torah and so forth; she also mentioned their eating habits, of which were not quite taken as serious matter as Islam has. i.e. they would hardly care if you showed them bacon or so forth; and I know Christians even eat it, even though the Bible states it is unclean; what I am wondering is, why does Islam have to have it taken so seriously that its branded a hate crime to merely have bacon within their proximity? Certainly, one should not have their own freedoms infringed upon, merely because a religious groups deems it so?[/QUOTE] What would I do without the freedom to leave my bacon wherever I want oh no.

[QUOTE=thisispain;37902218]okay but one "judish" person doesn't speak for the entire jewish community, just as i don't either. jews have strict dietary laws.[/QUOTE] Yes, you may not cook pork in the same pan as any other food served upon a jew; You may not cook the pork of a child in her mothers milk; Or drink it with its mothers milk. Something as such, at any rate, its been a few years. Jews can also ask for forgiveness in the case they accidentally consume pork, though, they would hardly care if you left some bacon outside of the Synagogue.

I would be thankful if I found bacon on my doorstep.

i don't know why are you asking me that? try leaving some bacon out of the synagogue and we'll compare the reaction

It was just the Canadian's way of being nice. Come on, free bacon! Who would have known that they were muslim. :C

[QUOTE=The fox;37902251]Yes, you may not cook pork in the same pan as any other food served upon a jew; You may not cook the pork of a child in her mothers milk; Or drink it with its mothers milk. Something as such, at any rate, its been a few years. Jews can also ask for forgiveness in the case they accidentally consume pork, though, they would hardly care if you left some bacon outside of the Synagogue.[/QUOTE] You are hilarious. It's to a point where I don't even know how to make fun of you.

[QUOTE=Kartoffel;37902277]It was just the Canadian's way of being nice. Come on, free bacon! Who would have known that they were muslim. :C[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.loonwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Masjid-Al-Hidayah-graffiti1-300x224.jpg[/img] i would think the sign would make it clear

[QUOTE=Killuah;37902278]You are hilarious. It's to a point where I don't even know how to make fun of you.[/QUOTE] So, you want to make fun of me, because I question why muslims get special treatment from a food product left at their doorstep? Alright.. well, its a free world. You do what you think is important. I guess I shouldnt be allowed to kiss a future boy/girlfriend outside of a Mosque/Synagogue/Church, either, god forbid people might get offended.

if police concern for vandalism constitutes special treatment then obviously you think we should treat muslims as second class citizens.

[QUOTE=The fox;37902308]So, you want to make fun of me, because I question why muslims get special treatment from a food product left at their doorstep? Alright.. well, its a free world. You do what you think is important.[/QUOTE] Yes.

[QUOTE=thisispain;37902290][img]http://www.loonwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Masjid-Al-Hidayah-graffiti1-300x224.jpg[/img] i would think the sign would make it clear[/QUOTE] That's horrible.

[QUOTE=Chernarus;37902337]That's horrible.[/QUOTE] Even the wall is crying.

[QUOTE=The fox;37902308]So, you want to make fun of me, because I question why muslims get special treatment from a food product left at their doorstep? Alright.. well, its a free world. You do what you think is important. I guess I shouldnt be allowed to kiss a future boy/girlfriend outside of a Mosque/Synagogue/Church, either, god forbid people might get offended.[/QUOTE] Its more a case of, why would you do something so dumb as that just to make others feel shitty.

well alright if they dont want it ill take it