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This is unfortunately common practice. My old boss at my McDonalds that I used to work at would cut hours out of my paycheck all the time. I also had to work every holiday and didn't get 14.50 like federal law mandates if employees must work on holidays.
What an absolute cunt that president is.
But how can you pull yourself up by your bootstraps without boots???
[img]http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/11/1106_exec_lunches/image/slide6.jpg[/img] look at this gross excuse for a human being
[QUOTE=pfoot;42478360][img]http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/11/1106_exec_lunches/image/slide6.jpg[/img] look at this gross excuse for a human being[/QUOTE] So that is where all the fry grease comes from
I get paid 21 an hour at my maccas, and I'm just standard crew. America's fucked yo.
[QUOTE=Empty_Shadow;42478401]I get paid 21 an hour at my maccas, and I'm just standard crew. America's fucked yo.[/QUOTE] except everything in stralia is priced up to compensate for your 16 dollar minimum wage
[QUOTE=Brt5470;42478110]Simmer down. I've joined in many other topics on this and I'm far from the one who says, "Oh just find another job." I'm just surprised she couldn't find another in 10 years.[/QUOTE] wasn't really trying to sound upset, but a lot of people cant get other jobs due to bad grades.
[QUOTE=Freakie;42478285]Well, apparently:[/QUOTE] objectively speaking he wins the comparison I asked for, HOWEVER he was also living off minimum wage (and probably better chances for raises over time) in the 70's, so let's do the math: 1973 fed min wage: 1.60, which is worth $8.64 today. However, in 15 years' time he advanced so far as to become "Staff Director of Operations and Menu Management". I doubt the first 10+ years of that journey up the food chain was spent not making any progress, continuing to work for $1.60 to support a family [QUOTE=Empty_Shadow;42478401]I get paid 21 an hour at my maccas, and I'm just standard crew. America's fucked yo.[/QUOTE] isn't minimum wage (and the cost of living) ridiculously higher out there though? and isn't [I]that [/I]also part of the excuse for the cost of games and such?
[QUOTE=daijitsu;42478514]objectively speaking he wins the comparison I asked for, HOWEVER he was also living off minimum wage (and probably better chances for raises over time) in the 70's, so let's do the math: 1973 fed min wage: 1.60, which is worth $8.64 today. However, in 15 years' time he advanced so far as to become "Staff Director of Operations and Menu Management". I doubt the first 10+ years of that journey up the food chain was spent not making any progress, continuing to work for $1.60 to support a family[/QUOTE] Just saying he held some basis in his statements. It's still insanely low of him and the rest of the executives to keep them at minimum wage.
Okay so lemme get this straight, he's at a meeting/get together at the Union League Club in Chicago. [url]http://www.ulcc.org/[/url] Touted as the [I]#1 City Club in Chicago[/I] I'll bet you money she wasn't invited to that meeting, but knew he was there. So she was in a place she wasn't invited to and started interrupting an event she wasn't invited to. So yeah, she did something kinda foolish. What [I]is[/I] rather shitty though was their response. She was arrested, who knows how long that took, and her hours have been cut as well. [I]That[/I] is bullshit. Working for a decade and making a dollar above minimum wage, that is also bullshit, even in fast food.
[QUOTE=Empty_Shadow;42478401]I get paid 21 an hour at my maccas, and I'm just standard crew. America's fucked yo.[/QUOTE] That's because Australia has a stupid high cost of living.
[QUOTE=daijitsu;42478514]objectively speaking he wins the comparison I asked for, HOWEVER he was also living off minimum wage (and probably better chances for raises over time) in the 70's, so let's do the math: 1973 fed min wage: 1.60, which is worth $8.64 today. However, in 15 years' time he advanced so far as to become "Staff Director of Operations and Menu Management". I doubt the first 10+ years of that journey up the food chain was spent not making any progress, continuing to work for $1.60 to support a family isn't minimum wage (and the cost of living) ridiculously higher out there though? and isn't [I]that [/I]also part of the excuse for the cost of games and such?[/QUOTE] Some things are cheap, some are expensive Games are expensive because the retailers can get away with it, nobody is big enough to lower prices, they're basically working together to fuck us. I did a quick google and the stats said on average cost of living in australia is about 30% higher than the US. But I mean our wages are significantly higher, and some of the costs they said were a bit bs, like the average price of milk being 1.50/L, I've never seen milk more than $1/L.
[QUOTE=daijitsu;42478514]objectively speaking he wins the comparison I asked for, HOWEVER he was also living off minimum wage (and probably better chances for raises over time) in the 70's, so let's do the math: 1973 fed min wage: 1.60, which is worth $8.64 today. However, in 15 years' time he advanced so far as to become "Staff Director of Operations and Menu Management". I doubt the first 10+ years of that journey up the food chain was spent not making any progress, continuing to work for $1.60 to support a family isn't minimum wage (and the cost of living) ridiculously higher out there though? and isn't [I]that [/I]also part of the excuse for the cost of games and such?[/QUOTE] Still I'd argue the australian minimum wage and low-end-job paying practices in austrailia have the difference between cost of living and minimum wage much smaller than in the US. I.E. I seriously doubt that for all wealth levels and locations, that the cost of living is literally over twice as high as it is anywhere in the US, but yet their minimum wage is over twice as high. I don't live in australia so anyone can feel free to prove me wrong though, who knows living in austrailia might cost (including utilities, rent, food, etc) over twice as much as it does in the US. And no, video games selling for almost double in Austrailia doesn't determine cost of living.
Even though I don't have a job, I refuse to let my parents push me into a job at a fast food restaurant. I have barely any dignity, because I'm basically a basement dweller who doesn't actually live in a basement, so it's not about dignity or anything like that. I'd just rather not be treated like shit because some huge-ass corporation thinks it's alright to mistreat it's employees. No offense to those who work for the fast food corporation, as this is just my opinion, and it doesn't always apply to every restaurant chain. I know there are probably a lot of things wrong with my argument but I'm just biased because every one of these places seem pretty much the same in how they treat the workers.
[QUOTE=draugur;42477872]His response to her about being there for 40 years doesn't really help his case when she clearly makes way less than 1/4th what he does.[/QUOTE] Right!? Its like: *in condescending british accent* "bbbbb...IVE been working here for over 40 years!" YEAH!? You're probably wealthier than 85% of the worlds God Damn population, motherFUCKER! I seriously need my morning (more like afternoon) coffee. Shit like this pisses me off to no end. FUCK YOU corporate America. You're the one group of people I will NEVER smoke out in my awesome tokin' conversion van!
[QUOTE=matty928;42477902]Don't move to spain minimum wage here is about 5€ and you're lucky if you get that,most people who work here get an average of about 3-4€ per hour and living cost is about the same as U.S and spanish goverment take a good 20% off you're paycheck[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure spain is much cheaper country to live in than the US.
This is why I debate moving to america...
8.25 after 10 years of service is fucking stupid. She could work for walmart and get her raise 40-80 cents a year. There are people who easily make 15-25 dollars an hour after 10 years of service. As much as i feel for her, maybe it is time to get a new job or start looking. I mean you've had 10 years, there has to be something out there that is better.
[QUOTE=Flazer210;42478802]Even though I don't have a job, I refuse to let my parents push me into a job at a fast food restaurant. I have barely any dignity, because I'm basically a basement dweller who doesn't actually live in a basement, so it's not about dignity or anything like that. I'd just rather not be treated like shit because some huge-ass corporation thinks it's alright to mistreat it's employees. No offense to those who work for the fast food corporation, as this is just my opinion, and it doesn't always apply to every restaurant chain. I know there are probably a lot of things wrong with my argument but I'm just biased because every one of these places seem pretty much the same in how they treat the workers.[/QUOTE] That's all well and good, but getting your first real job may be more difficult if you have zero job experience at all.
I'd support a raise to 12 dollars minimum wage, but as soon as people in food service make as much as I do as a web developer then I'll be pissed.
Employers should respect their fucking workers instead of just paying the bare minimum they can get away with all the time in favour of astronomical profits. Fuck 'em. Cunts.
Funfact: That's about 5 times Brazil's minimun wage. :v: And we pay very higher taxes.
Next time the person may not want to talk, better increase security Mr. Stratton.
[QUOTE=Toyhobo;42477998]Jobs don't grow on trees.[/QUOTE] Unless you're an apple farmer.
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;42477820]It really is sad how low minimum wage is. People can't live off of 8.25 an hour[/QUOTE] Minimum wage in my state is close to a dollar under that.
[QUOTE=Flazer210;42478802]Even though I don't have a job, I refuse to let my parents push me into a job at a fast food restaurant. I have barely any dignity, because I'm basically a basement dweller who doesn't actually live in a basement, so it's not about dignity or anything like that. I'd just rather not be treated like shit because some huge-ass corporation thinks it's alright to mistreat it's employees. No offense to those who work for the fast food corporation, as this is just my opinion, and it doesn't always apply to every restaurant chain. I know there are probably a lot of things wrong with my argument but I'm just biased because every one of these places seem pretty much the same in how they treat the workers.[/QUOTE] Its really not that bad. My first job was Skyline Chili and it wasn't too bad, I'd probably rank it higher than McDonalds. People give shit about fast food all the time but working there really only sucks if you are working with awful managers and people, or at a specific location with a very high turnover rate. Which is common to have in a lot of the "bottom of the barrel" jobs, but when you work with genuinely good people or aren't doing your typical burger flipping its pretty enjoyable.
I'm actually in support of a 15 dollar an hour minimum wage. This is why. (Please correct me if my logic here is not sound...) Since 1967, when minimum wage as purchasing power was at its highest (10.75 2013USD an hour roughly,) the amount of purchasing power we get for an hour of work has actually decreased by about 33% due to inflation. However, this doesn't account for productivity increases either. I think it is important to factor this in, because we're essentially doing more work than we did back then. I took GDP/c as a measure of productivity, the gross domestic product divided by every citizen. I then fixed the 1967 GDP/c for inflation. If I remember correctly, this gave me a number around +66%. In other words, I've come to the conclusion that we're getting 66% more work done for 33% less pay than in 1967. But in unit terms... We're doing work for 50% less pay. 7.25 * 2 = 14.5. Thus, I think minimum wage ought to increase to $14.50 an hour, and thus be regularly adjusted to account for both increases in productivity and inflation or deflation. My conclusion? Yes, those fast food employees walking out of their jobs demanding 15 bucks an hour are insane. By only 50 cents.
[QUOTE=Irkalla;42479599]I'm actually in support of a 15 dollar an hour minimum wage. This is why. (Please correct me if my logic here is not sound...) Since 1967, when minimum wage as purchasing power was at its highest (10.75 2013USD an hour roughly,) the amount of purchasing power we get for an hour of work has actually decreased by about 33% due to inflation. However, this doesn't account for productivity increases either. I think it is important to factor this in, because we're essentially doing more work than we did back then. I took GDP/c as a measure of productivity, the gross domestic product divided by every citizen. I then fixed the 1967 GDP/c for inflation. If I remember correctly, this gave me a number around +66%. In other words, I've come to the conclusion that we're getting 66% more work done for 33% less pay than in 1967. But in unit terms... We're doing work for 50% less pay. 7.25 * 2 = 14.5. Thus, I think minimum wage ought to increase to $14.50 an hour, and thus be regularly adjusted to account for both increases in productivity and inflation or deflation. My conclusion? Yes, those fast food employees walking out of their jobs demanding 15 bucks an hour are insane. By only 50 cents.[/QUOTE] Maybe that's also a good way to upset the economy. It's hard to prove whether or not we should increase minimum wage. My opinion is that we should look at other solutions, like basic income.
[QUOTE=Rubs10;42479878]Maybe that's also a good way to upset the economy.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1403498"]Maybe that's a conservative talking point with no empirical basis.[/URL]
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