Multple Halal Butcher shops firebombed after Brexit referendum, people still inside - Polidicks

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;50627126]I blame: Pretty much everyone tbh. Britain has been scammed and we only have ourselves to blame. Britain is the problem here.[/QUOTE] All true. You also missed the part about Labour basically being shit in the referendum. Where the fuck was Corbyn? I like the guy, but he seriously screwed up there.

[QUOTE=Shadow801;50627623]All true. You also missed the part about Labour basically being shit in the referendum. Where the fuck was Corbyn? I like the guy, but he seriously screwed up there.[/QUOTE] Well Corbyn did travel round doing speeches but he refused to join with Cameron's campaign. It would be lose lose for him. Join with Cameron and be seen as the face of austerity britain Dissociate with Cameron and not get any time on TV and get back stabbed by his MPs (would happen anyway) I feel like he didn't do enough, he wasn't ever on TV - partly because the media dislike him partly because he wasn't associated with the remain campaign. All this said now we're out we need a left wing government now. The recession soon to come will be the tories chance to mangle the NHS and cut other public spending. We need protection against that. We need to keep regulations to ensure protection for workers and the environment. I don't want to get swept up with the anti Corbyn stuff because it will be used directly against labour, papers like the sun are pushing it for a reason, they want Labour to rip themselves to pieces in a civil war while the tories get their shit together ready for the next election. [URL="http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/06/11/01/3523CFF200000578-3636178-image-a-4_1465606462347.jpg"]Just for giggles[/URL]

These perps are probably the very same assholes who like to call Muslims terrorists when they themselves are performing an act of terrorism. I bet these rascist assholes are unemployed basement dwellers. What really drives these scumbags to do such things? Immigrants are not the cause of people's unemployment problem.

[QUOTE=BCell;50628261]These perps are probably the very same assholes who like to call Muslims terrorists when they themselves are performing an act of terrorism. I bet these rascist assholes are unemployed basement dwellers. What really drives these scumbags to do such things? Immigrants are not the cause of people's unemployment problem.[/QUOTE] There was a time when Malaysia had just achieved indipendence, That Indonesia (under Soekarno) accused Malaysia of being an example of neo-colonised by British. So Indonesia send commandoes into Malaysia for 'confrontation' But that ends well after the troops was subdued. And after Soekarno step down, everything went down smoothly between the 2 country. No hard feelings whatsoever. What just happened is another example of extremism. It's nobodies fault. Its just some people tend to think and act that way. Only difference is In case of Malaysia-Indonesia, the extremist is the leader of a country. This time in UK, its just some hoodlums.

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50628631]I sincerely doubt you can name Indonesian expansiveness as "extremism" What is next, Colonialism was "extremism" too?[/QUOTE] Extremism, terrorism, just some labels that we use to describe things. It varies between individual perspectives. In this case, I can also possibly be considered an extremist for voicing that kind of opinion towards a country leader. Maybe I was in the wrong. But what I'm trying to say is that, while current condition might makes its easier for some people to do harsh things, they are not a representatives of the whole party. Maybe the blame should be more focal, instead of holding the whole 'leaver' as responsible.

[QUOTE=hakimhakim;50628758]Extremism, terrorism, just some labels that we use to describe things. It varies between individual perspectives. In this case, I can also possibly be considered an extremist for voicing that kind of opinion towards a country leader. Maybe I was in the wrong. But what I'm trying to say is that, while current condition might makes its easier for some people to do harsh things, they are not a representatives of the whole party. Maybe the blame should be more focal, instead of holding the whole 'leaver' as responsible.[/QUOTE] Everybody is responsible but leave voters are so more than others, they supported something that they should have realized would have the consequences it has had and will have. That doesn't mean you can expect leave voters to be able or willing to fix the situation on their own, that's not what it's about. [editline]1st July 2016[/editline] And yeah both extremism and terrorism have pretty clear definitions.

[QUOTE=MrJazzy;50628915] And yeah both extremism and terrorism have pretty clear definitions.[/QUOTE] Extremism and terrorism do have a definition, but to whom we apply them to, is highly dependent on the individual coining the terms.

[QUOTE=ratman;50614990]I've been joking with my ethnic friends through out the brexit that I'm going to have to hide them under the floorboards if the leave vote gets through, just like at the start of inglorious bastards. Never in my life did I think that there would actually be this much of rise in hate crimes and general xenophobia. Perhaps it is just the media are portraying it as though there has been a significant rise. Would be nice to see some statistics or graphs showing the increase in the last week.[/QUOTE] IMO there's a seriously good chance that the media is just cherry picking for ratings. [editline]1st July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Dr. Ethan Asia;50622338]Lol are you for real? [URL="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/04/nigel-farage-migrants-could-pose-sex-attack-threat-to-britain/"]Migrants could pose sex attack threats to Britain[/URL] [t]http://indy100.independent.co.uk/image/26809-6kaa4w.png[/t] "The muslims are coming!" [t]http://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2016/06/20/17/web-farage-poster-rex.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] The UK wasn't getting a significant amount of immigrants, but you'd have to be blind to not see that huge amounts of immigration from the middle easy directly correlate to increased sex crimes, as well as the general terrible economic impact having a huge influx of people enter your borders carries.

[QUOTE=hakimhakim;50628925]Extremism and terrorism do have a definition, but to whom we apply them to, is highly dependent on the individual coining the terms.[/QUOTE] Some random person calling people extremists or terrorists, sure, but if you're having a serious discussion there are definitely clear definitions of the words and how you should use them. [editline]1st July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Radical_ed;50629701]The UK wasn't getting a significant amount of immigrants, but you'd have to be blind to not see that huge amounts of immigration from the middle easy directly correlate to increased sex crimes, as well as the general terrible economic impact having a huge influx of people enter your borders carries.[/QUOTE] So, since it's so obvious, show me the stats of immigration from the middle east and the stats of increased sex crimes, I'm curious, I'm not well-versed with the UK society so I'd like to see it so that I can make this conclusion myself.

[QUOTE=Radical_ed;50629701] The UK wasn't getting a significant amount of immigrants, but you'd have to be blind to not see that huge amounts of immigration from the middle easy directly correlate to increased sex crimes, as well as the general terrible economic impact having a huge influx of people enter your borders carries.[/QUOTE] That does not justify demonising a whole ethno-religious group simply because the amount of people in a given place might end up raising the crime stats. Farage was quite clearly making a reference to the sex attacks in Germany - [URL="http://www.bild.de/bild-plus/politik/inland/bundeskriminalamt/der-bka-bericht-44587004,var=a,view=conversionToLogin.bild.html#"]of which only a tiny proportion were committed by refugees.[/URL] It's been proven that there is [URL="http://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/2193-9039-2-19"]"no evidence of an average causal impact of immigration on crime"[/URL], that there was [URL="http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/REST_a_00337#.V3dA-rgrKUk"]"no effect on violent crime; arrest rates were not different, and changes in crime cannot be ascribed to crimes against immigrants"[/URL], that there [URL="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1468-2311.2010.00655.x/abstract"]"is little empirical evidence to suggest that foreign nationals are more dangerous than British nationals",[/URL] and [URL="http://cad.sagepub.com/content/early/2014/07/15/0011128714542500"]"areas that saw the highest rates of immigration do not have higher rates of violence."[/URL] Your 'direct correlation' is just what you reckon, isn't it? And I'm not seeing much of a terrible economic impact - it's been proven that migration and asylum doesn't necessarily correlate to economic crises; [URL="http://www.cream-migration.org/publ_uploads/CDP_22_13.pdf"]"immigrants have made a positive fiscal contribution"[/URL]. 43% of non-EEA immigrants had university degrees, compared with 21% of the British adult population, and there's [URL="http://www.economicshelp.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/net-migration-01-14-600x390.png"]no link between immigration and unemployment.[/URL] and in fact [URL="http://cep.lse.ac.uk/pubs/download/pa014.pdf"]immigrants are more likely to be unemployed than natives.[/URL] Leaving the EU has been more of an economic disaster than immigration could ever be. You'd have to be blind - or more accurately, willfully ignorant - to conclude that immigration is bad, especially when "huge amounts" is really just [URL="http://www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/sn06077.pdf"]8277 people[/URL] according to the ONS. [editline]2nd July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Radical_ed;50629701]IMO there's a seriously good chance that the media is just cherry picking for ratings.[/QUOTE] Kind of like what the media does when immigrants are on their shitlist, hm?

[QUOTE=Zephyrs;50618443]Aren't the Poles stereotypicaly white as hell? How do you tell them apart from the 'full blooded' Brits?[/QUOTE] It's pretty easy to tell ethnicities at a glance. Or at least areas from where some people might be coming from. It's probably harder for americans since there's a lot more intermixing due to a lot more cultures being pushed into smaller areas. But in Europe - the differences between a czech, northern german, brit or pole are apparrent to a certain degree. Sure there's a number of ethnicities that look almost the same - like czechs and austrians, but that's usually from having a lot of historical mixing.