[QUOTE=Nikota;34342270]Are you one of those people who's job it is to spread pro israel commits over the internet?
I mean. You only have 2 posts and all.[/QUOTE]
or mybe im someone who lurked on the forums and decided to post somewhere where his opinion has a base? unlike your "propaganda accounts" bs?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;34320142]Strange how most developed nations don't want to recognize palestine.[/QUOTE]
Cold war era politics which no one bothered to update. One of the reason former Warsaw pact, current nato members recognise it.
[QUOTE=KILLTHIS;34320669]Hm... it bothers me that Germany is gray on that map.[/QUOTE]
Germany will always side with Israel of course.
[QUOTE=Sovietzek;34340317]The current Israeli government dosnt want a one sided decleration of independence of Palestine mainly because you cant just declare that you exist as a country in side an other countries teritory.
But,you must remember Israel is a democracy and next thing you know you get a very pro Palestinian government.
Also the Palestinian authority is autonomus in areas and are heavily dependent on Israel and really as long as we dont get another Arafat or hamas take over fatah,everything should be good.[/QUOTE]
Palestine, autonomous? They lost the ability to govern their territory effectively when Israelis started building illegal settlements in Palestine. Hell, the Palestinian Authority has almost no control over its eastern border:
[t]http://i.imgur.com/xO1Ep.jpg[/t]
This is great, now all we have to do is get more countries to jump on board and then those same countries to denounce Israel ( here's looking at you USA )
Don't except anything from Sweden in quite some time. Our government haven't agreed on anything yet and will therefore not come to a conclusion until a overwhelming of politicians and parties agree.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34348345]Palestine, autonomous? They lost the ability to govern their territory effectively when Israelis started building illegal settlements in Palestine. Hell, the Palestinian Authority has almost no control over its eastern border:
[t]http://i.imgur.com/xO1Ep.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
I never said the control the entire area,they control cities like ramlaa
[QUOTE=Source;34348650]This is great, now all we have to do is get more countries to jump on board and then those same countries to denounce Israel ( here's looking at you USA )[/QUOTE]
by denounce i hope you mean denounce Israels claims and not denounce Israels existence or something dumb like that.
[QUOTE=Sovietzek;34355195]I never said the control the entire area,they control cities like ramlaa[/quote]
Yes, they control single cities, not a contiguous landmass. Even ignoring the separation of the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, their territory is without integrity, preventing them from governing effectively. Until the Israeli settlers vacate the West Bank, there will never be peace.
The settlers should gtfo but the PA isn't exactly in condition to be completely autonomous.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;34355570]The settlers should gtfo but the PA isn't exactly in condition to be completely autonomous.[/QUOTE]
And why's that?
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34355551]Yes, they control single cities, not a contiguous landmass. Even ignoring the separation of the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, their territory is without integrity, preventing them from governing effectively. Until the Israeli settlers vacate the West Bank, there will never be peace.[/QUOTE]
I agree also just so you know gaza is ruled by hamas and fatah (the ones negotiating) dont like hamas and you cant lift hamas flags in their authority.
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