Sandra Bullock to Star in All Female Reboot of Oceans 11 Reboot - Polidicks

[QUOTE=RaxaHax;49033264]Actually I just found a leaked script online, and instead of a Casino, this time around its a gaming convention? [B]The villians name is Pat I. Archy?[/B] Did anyone else know about this?[/QUOTE] Tumblr level writing skills.

"Ocean's 11 with women wouldn't work." - John Mulaney, 2012 [video=youtube;aWv7x5mJMA4]https://youtu.be/aWv7x5mJMA4[/video] 0:54-1:23

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;49032969]They're rebooting Roadhouse with a female lead[/QUOTE] just lol pain don't hurt..... but menstrual cramps are killer fam

sony pictures is really sticking to the one shtick these days, guess they're circling the drain

[QUOTE=Zuimzado;49033255]It's funny you say that because no all-female reboot has been released yet. So you really can't say unreleased movies are not memorable because they're not released yet. But hey, what do I know. It'll be the same thing as the Ghostbusters where people are gonna complain about it even though we don't have a trailer, actual official stills from the movie (and not publicity), or heck, I don't know, the actual movie. With any other movie that kind of behavior would be stupid, but since it's a reboot, well, come on down, everything's allowed![/QUOTE] its just the principle of taking a memorable movie (with a mixed cast!) and saying "we're going to remake it with an all x cast" and saying its great because diversity through homogeneity

as a fan of the oceans series i'm actually quite excited for this if its going to be anything like the originals then it's going to be quite enjoyable

[QUOTE=usaokay;49031362]Hollywood is out of ideas. Can't wait for the all female reboot of Brokeback Mountain though.[/QUOTE] cain't kweet choo: tails of trials and tribadations [editline]2nd November 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Zukriuchen;49032859]why sandra bullock is that really the first woman you think of when you're looking for clooney-esque wit and charm[/QUOTE] She rolls her eyes and sighs really good.

[QUOTE=darcy010;49031811]Why not just have an all female heist film of a different name? People would appreciate it more as an homage rather than a reboot.[/QUOTE] This is what I was thinking. Why Oceans Eleven in particular? It's not the only Heist film out there, Due Hard, The Town, and Heat are also memorable Heist films and I have no doubt there's others I haven't seen. So why not an original movie about an all-woman heist? Why copy the story and change the characters? That's lazy, make something original, something that may last, may be memorable.

If only there were real original ideas out there. this gender war is starting to get annoying.

I'm still clueless as to why they needed to reboot it? The last film was great when compared to the second as that wasn't worth speaking about.

[QUOTE=usaokay;49031362]Hollywood is out of ideas. Can't wait for the all female reboot of Brokeback Mountain though.[/QUOTE] Whatever makes Hollywood look cool and hip, and modern with da times.

[QUOTE=Zuimzado;49033255]It's funny you say that because no all-female reboot has been released yet. So you really can't say unreleased movies are not memorable because they're not released yet. But hey, what do I know. It'll be the same thing as the Ghostbusters where people are gonna complain about it even though we don't have a trailer, actual official stills from the movie (and not publicity), or heck, I don't know, the actual movie. With any other movie that kind of behavior would be stupid, but since it's a reboot, well, come on down, everything's allowed![/QUOTE] My original post is admittedly conjecture, based mostly on the trend set by Bridesmaids. I know it's silly to judge a movie before it comes out, but in these cases it seems pretty clear that the studios want to mimic the success of Bridesmaids, but they don't have/want to use any possible new stories since they might be risky. So instead they take movies that everybody generally loves, and replace the male-led cast with a female one. It's a clever way to take a safe, tried-and-true story and add the daring, culturally-relevant element of a female-led cast. Audiences already know what movie they're going to see, with the added bonus of women in recognized roles. One major problem with that is that the characters were made popular by men already, so they're already popular when a woman plays them without actually giving them a chance to make a new, specifically female popular character. They're restricted to being the [I]girl version[/I] of the character, rather than just a good character. All that being said, this movie could be more promising than the Ghostbusters reboot. The reason many people were afraid of Ghostbusters getting a reboot was that the first movie was the only good one. The sequel sucked, and the first one was made excellent because of the combined talents of Murray, Ramis and Aykroyd. Even a reboot starring a bunch of men would be badly received because the original cast is what made the first one great. An Ocean's Eleven reboot, however, has already been done and was wildly successful, spawning multiple sequels. This means that the film didn't rely on the original performance of the Rat Pack, and a reboot has been proven to work well. Therefore any cast with the right set of personalities could be in an Ocean's Eleven reboot. This has the potential to be a good movie, but as I elaborated in my first post, in the part you didn't quote, they need to stop handing down men's roles to women and start writing them their own good characters. A film being unreleased doesn't mean we can't judge the concept of it. I mean, we already know the story, we just don't know how it's going to be adapted.

I wonder why there isn't a reboot or sequel to "Set it Off" yet? It wasn't great as Heat, but at least it was original.

[QUOTE=dalton0419;49033512]"Ocean's 11 with women wouldn't work." - John Mulaney, 2012 [video=youtube;aWv7x5mJMA4]https://youtu.be/aWv7x5mJMA4[/video] 0:54-1:23[/QUOTE] I completely expect this to be the movie. The "Oh my god, look at the dress she's wearing" type female comedy that's decades old.

[QUOTE=BigJoeyLemons;49035741]My original post is admittedly conjecture, based mostly on the trend set by Bridesmaids. I know it's silly to judge a movie before it comes out, but in these cases it seems pretty clear that the studios want to mimic the success of Bridesmaids, but they don't have/want to use any possible new stories since they might be risky. So instead they take movies that everybody generally loves, and replace the male-led cast with a female one. It's a clever way to take a safe, tried-and-true story and add the daring, culturally-relevant element of a female-led cast. Audiences already know what movie they're going to see, with the added bonus of women in recognized roles. One major problem with that is that the characters were made popular by men already, so they're already popular when a woman plays them without actually giving them a chance to make a new, specifically female popular character. They're restricted to being the [I]girl version[/I] of the character, rather than just a good character. All that being said, this movie could be more promising than the Ghostbusters reboot. The reason many people were afraid of Ghostbusters getting a reboot was that the first movie was the only good one. The sequel sucked, and the first one was made excellent because of the combined talents of Murray, Ramis and Aykroyd. Even a reboot starring a bunch of men would be badly received because the original cast is what made the first one great. An Ocean's Eleven reboot, however, has already been done and was wildly successful, spawning multiple sequels. This means that the film didn't rely on the original performance of the Rat Pack, and a reboot has been proven to work well. Therefore any cast with the right set of personalities could be in an Ocean's Eleven reboot. This has the potential to be a good movie, but as I elaborated in my first post, in the part you didn't quote, they need to stop handing down men's roles to women and start writing them their own good characters. A film being unreleased doesn't mean we can't judge the concept of it. I mean, we already know the story, we just don't know how it's going to be adapted.[/QUOTE] Here's the thing tho, almost nothing of the Ocean's movie have to do with the fact that they're men. What good would it do if they were all women? It's just a gimmick to attract attention. And if you dislike it, you're sexist. Hollywood has to stop changing the original material.

Goodfellas female re-boot when.

[QUOTE=Ragekipz;49037564]Here's the thing tho, almost nothing of the Ocean's movie have to do with the fact that they're men. What good would it do if they were all women? It's just a gimmick to attract attention. And if you dislike it, you're sexist. Hollywood has to stop changing the original material.[/QUOTE] The point is that taking characters that don't need to be masculine and making them female drives home the idea that anyone qualified can play the main characters in Hollywood movies when they're not driven by story to be one gender. It might be to attract attention, but is it not attracting attention to a just cause and a genuine problem in the movie industry?

[QUOTE=BigJoeyLemons;49038192]The point is that taking characters that don't need to be masculine and making them female drives home the idea that anyone qualified can play the main characters in Hollywood movies when they're not driven by story to be one gender. It might be to attract attention, but is it not attracting attention to a just cause and a genuine problem in the movie industry?[/QUOTE] I don't think this is the right way to do it though. Taking a movie that's already been rebooted with a whole trilogy and switching the gender of the entire cast doesn't feel very clever and really diminishes any sense of being progressive. An ideal situation would be changing a few of the roles that don't need to be explicitly gendered. If you really want to say "hey, there's really no reason why x character couldn't be female" that's the way to do it. By changing the entire cast it comes off as "Ocean's Eleven: Girls Edition," which is a pretty safe and un-inventive way of using female leads.

[QUOTE=BigJoeyLemons;49038192] but is it not attracting attention to a just cause and a genuine problem in the movie industry?[/QUOTE] So an industry makes something to attract attention to a problem that exists... in itself? Why not just make a decent or even great original movie with female leads instead, sorta solving the problem they're aware of - themselves? I guess I know [sp]that would require artistic effort and some talent[/sp]

Yeah, I was trying my best to justify it back there. they're trying to make a difference but don't want to put in enough effort to actually [I]take the risk necessary[/I] to make a difference.

[QUOTE=dbk21894;49033085]pls no those three movies are my favorite movies of all time I mean, I love sandy as much as the next guy, but pls noooo[/QUOTE] You've got nothing to worry about, your favorite movies will continue to exist and stand on their own merits. Let's just wait and see if this one turns out to be good as well. [QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;49034237]Why copy the story and change the characters? That's lazy, make something original, something that may last, may be memorable.[/QUOTE] A [I]remake[/I] would copy the story. A reboot starts over from scratch to explore a different path. More importantly though, we don't know if this will be billed as a reboot, or if it will be some sort of sequel or spin-off. It could even evolve into a separate film altogether for all we know. [quote]It's unclear how directly connected (or not) this remake/reboot/sequel/spinoff will be to the Soderbergh pictures, but everyone is keen on this new ‘Ocean’s’ project, and [B]sources tell us Clooney may even cameo as Danny Ocean[/B].[/quote]

[QUOTE=3noneTwo;49038901]You've got nothing to worry about, your favorite movies will continue to exist and stand on their own merits. Let's just wait and see if this one turns out to be good as well. A [I]remake[/I] would copy the story. A reboot starts over from scratch to explore a different path. More importantly though, we don't know if this will be billed as a reboot, or if it will be some sort of sequel or spin-off. It could even evolve into a separate film altogether for all we know.[/QUOTE] Of course the movies will keep existing, but instead of getting new movies, we're getting this. And this will be the future of the Ocean's series for the forseable future. If the movie sucks, it will unjustly stain the reputation of the other movies.

[QUOTE=Ragekipz;49039000]Of course the movies will keep existing, but instead of getting new movies, we're getting this. And this will be the future of the Ocean's series for the forseable future. If the movie sucks, it will unjustly stain the reputation of the other movies.[/QUOTE] Who is to say it's not going to be a new movie, though? And with the latter in mind, you could easily also have gotten a "Normal" non gender-focused sequel, prequel or the likes, and have that turn out to be awful. Besides, it's not like successful recasting hasn't happened before.

[QUOTE=Ragekipz;49039000]Of course the movies will keep existing, but instead of getting new movies, we're getting this. And this will be the future of the Ocean's series for the forseable future. If the movie sucks, it will unjustly stain the reputation of the other movies.[/QUOTE] No, it won't. Whether [i]this[/i] film ends up being good or bad doesn't matter, it's been too long since Oceans [i]Thirteen[/i] for this film to have any impact on the original films. The fact will still remain that Oceans Eleven is an entertaining, well-written, and expertly-directed heist film. I mean hell, example: Die Hard 5 was a stupid brainless film full of cliches, a critical failure. It doesn't change the fact that the first Die Hard is an awesome action thriller, you can watch it knowing you're gonna have a really good time. The same can be said for Die Hard 2 & Die Hard with a Vengeance, they're both really fun action films.

[QUOTE=Grandzeit;49039051]Who is to say it's not going to be a new movie, though? And with the latter in mind, you could easily also have gotten a "Normal" non gender-focused sequel, prequel or the likes, and have that turn out to be awful. Besides, it's not like successful recasting hasn't happened before.[/QUOTE] If it was going to be it's own thing, it wouldn't be riding on Ocean's 11 name. They could've just advertised it as a new heist movie, rather than an "All Female Ocean's 11 reboot". [QUOTE=3noneTwo;49039158]No, it won't. Whether [i]this[/i] film ends up being good or bad doesn't matter, it's been too long since Oceans [i]Thirteen[/i] for this film to have any impact on the original films. The fact will still remain that Oceans Eleven is an entertaining, well-written, and expertly-directed heist film. I mean hell, example: Die Hard 5 was a stupid brainless film full of cliches, a critical failure. It doesn't change the fact that the first Die Hard is an awesome action thriller, you can watch it knowing you're gonna have a really good time. The same can be said for Die Hard 2 & Die Hard with a Vengeance, they're both really fun action films.[/QUOTE] It doesn't change the fact that DH1 is good, but now when people think about Die Hard, they think about how it slowly went to shit due to Hollywood milking it.

[QUOTE=Ragekipz;49039000]Of course the movies will keep existing, but instead of getting new movies, we're getting this. And this will be the future of the Ocean's series for the forseable future. If the movie sucks, it will unjustly stain the reputation of the other movies.[/QUOTE] the sequels were shit yet everyone still considers the reboot to be good

[QUOTE=Ragekipz;49039187]If it was going to be it's own thing, it wouldn't be riding on Ocean's 11 name. They could've just advertised it as a new heist movie, rather than an "All Female Ocean's 11 reboot". It doesn't change the fact that DH1 is good, but now when people think about Die Hard, they think about how it slowly went to shit due to Hollywood milking it.[/QUOTE] People don't hate Star Wars because of the debatable quality of the prequels though