[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;49584666]I, too, base my video game preferences on the rumor mill.[/QUOTE]
If the dev ain't an alleged Nazi, satanist, pedo, serial killer then what is even the point in playing video games!
I don't like Yanderedev, but I like the game to an extent
Twitch needs to stop this needless game banning, especially since they have that Mature Viewers Intended button
[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;49584666]I, too, base my video game preferences on the rumor mill.[/QUOTE]
Sexualizing high school kids isn't from the rumor mill, though, it's in the game. Which is enough for me to dislike it and apparently enough to get it banned on Twitch.
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And to argue the "Rumor mill" thing, is it not okay that I have faith in my friend who I personally found to be reliable with these kinds of things? (And who turned out to be reliable anyway without him even getting a chance to link me to the Dev's past-)[/QUOTE]
It's fine if you believe it, but it's anecdotal evidence for us.
[QUOTE=Mkt778;49583544]Eeeh.
I don't really want to complain. I don't like small time dev's being punted out like cannon fodder, but Yandere dev has come across kinda creepy to me and various people he works with.
Cue the song and dance about how I'm a horrible person and that the dev has to put up with too much shit, but I feel its [I]somewhat[/I] justified. Twitch drew the line at depictions of brutal violence with minors. Just watch the game somewhere else.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't warrant a ban since youth violence is not unusual. It's been mainstream for a very long time and no one has an issue with it. In addition to rap songs, there's also movies like Friday the 13th, Halloween, Battle Royale, and The Hunger Games.
It's kind of disappointing that people still have to be treated like misguided children when it comes to videogames. Most mature media is very questionable and grey, but that's what makes it mature.
[QUOTE=Mkt778;49584857]I've already stated it is. I know it is. That's fine.
It turned out true because the links to what I was talking about was posted.[/QUOTE]
If you dismiss games due to a dev being weird, you're not gonna play that many games :v:
[QUOTE=Mkt778;49584937]Oh well then. :v:
The dev being weird was the icing on the cake. I tried the game and didn't like it.[/QUOTE]
Haven't tried it myself cause I prefer not trying stuff before it's out, but did you enjoy the hitman series? If so, what was the difference in gameplay that you didn't like compared to that.
[QUOTE=psychojake;49584742]Sexualizing high school kids isn't from the rumor mill, though, it's in the game. Which is enough for me to dislike it and apparently enough to get it banned on Twitch.[/QUOTE]
Isn't that just because of the anime tropes it's playing off of though?
It wouldn't really be "Yandere Simulator" if it didn't play off of those very tropes.
[QUOTE=Mkt778;49584948]There's nothing wrong with mature media. I just find his game distasteful, and along with his past, it just makes me not want to support his game further.[/QUOTE]
My bad, it wasn't a dig at you. It was at Twitch for being babysitters and PR firms.
so you complain because the game is clunky while it's not nearly done
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;49582864]Yandere Simulator and Hatred are banned? But Manhunt, where you can bash a cop full force over the head with a crowbar, then ram the sharp into into the back of his neck, and give it a hefty jerk for maximum brutality, is perfectly fine?
If you're going to ban shit, at least be consistent. Hatred got nothing on Manhunt.[/QUOTE]
But didn't they censor all the gore and shit in manhunt? So that it got a lower rating?
I played manhunt uncut and its not even that bad, also note that the the page with banned games also included GTA San Andreas that was rated AO, which I believe was version 1.0, which included hot coffee, this makes me wonder if modded GTA SA on twitch is allowed since technically you're converting 2.0 to 1.0 to be able to mod it?
[QUOTE=Mkt778;49584948]There's nothing wrong with mature media. I just find his game distasteful, and along with his past, it just makes me not want to support his game further.[/QUOTE]
I don't see how Yandere Sim is any more creepy/fetishistic than plenty of other games on Steam or Japanese games in general (that nobody seems to give a shit about for being what they are with the exception of DOA recently). Hell, if anything it's much more of an actual game.
Hating any media because of the creator's background is pretty lame. As long as the finished product is enjoyable, who cares?
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;49585130]Hating any media because of the creator's background is pretty lame. As long as the finished product is enjoyable, who cares?[/QUOTE]
But what if it was made by Hitler? I had the same problem back in October playing payday 2. I was having fun with the game but I felt bad every time I played it cause the shit that the devs were doing. I felt like playing that game supported the devs and that behavior but on another note this case isn't like that. 1 I really doubt this ban has something to do with drama more like twitch just being fucking retarded and 2nd I don't think that this guy is a bad guy. He has been working hard to put out a game that is fun to play. Hes not doing it for money or to be the next "notch". Hes doing it cause he has fun making a game and letting people play said game. Sounds like an all right guy to me.
[QUOTE=Jacob_sword;49585171]But what if it was made by Hitler? I had the same problem back in October playing payday 2. I was having fun with the game but I felt bad every time I played it cause the shit that the devs were doing. I felt like playing that game supported the devs and that behavior but on another note this case isn't like that. 1 I really doubt this ban has something to do with drama more like twitch just being fucking retarded and 2nd I don't think that this guy is a bad guy. He has been working hard to put out a game that is fun to play. Hes not doing it for money or to be the next "notch". Hes doing it cause he has fun making a game and letting people play said game. Sounds like an all right guy to me.[/QUOTE]
there's a difference, in this case the game itself was fucked up because the current developers are dumb
i don't care if game developers are dumb as long as their games are good, however if their dumbness affects the product...
[QUOTE=Mkt778;49585253][URL="http://wunkolo.tumblr.com/post/119800702632"]Yeah, he sounds like one hell of a guy.[/URL][/QUOTE]
he still seems alright to me
You can stream Outlast, a game where you literally see people getting their genitalia sawed off, but not an anime hitman game. Lmao.
Also the guy behind Yandere Sim is pretty disturbed, but he's taking it out via game development. So who really cares?
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That's not a valid criticism? I've dabbled in unity before, so I know how things like character controllers work. It seems he's already finished everything to do with character interaction/movement physics, etc if I can judge by anything the game presented - so my criticism still stands. It felt clunky.
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The game is not out yet, its at a point where its still being implemented features and a lot of stuff is placeholder.
[QUOTE=psychojake;49584742]Sexualizing high school kids isn't from the rumor mill, though, it's in the game. Which is enough for me to dislike it and apparently enough to get it banned on Twitch.[/QUOTE]
This is a really weak argument seeing as the Dead or Alive games aren't on the list, which iirc, have underage characters bumping butts in bikinis.
This kind of shit is why I hate Twitch so much. It's the reason I use adblock and support my favorite streamers without using the subscribe button. I refuse to give Twitch any money because I hate the company.
I wish more people would switch over to things like Hitbox or even Youtube livestreaming (not the most preferable though, that's for sure).
[editline]22nd January 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;49583229]So is hitbox, a lot of shit relating to their vod and highlighting system has been broken and buggy for years[/QUOTE]
Twitch's is no better.
:snip:
[QUOTE=dustyjo;49583063]SK was unbanned after a couple days and I'm hoping this will be too.[/QUOTE]
Not exactly, some mod wasn't happy about that and continued to shit on people streaming SK long after it was unbanned, and got their friends to join in too. Mods can basically harass you and Twitch won't do shit about it unless enough people whine.
[QUOTE=Kuro.;49586229]Not exactly, some mod wasn't happy about that and continued to shit on people streaming SK long after it was unbanned, and got their friends to join in too. Mods can basically harass you and Twitch won't do shit about it unless enough people whine.[/QUOTE]
Won't stop me from streaming the whole damn thing when the English version of EV comes out. :cool:
[QUOTE=Mkt778;49585253][URL="http://wunkolo.tumblr.com/post/119800702632"]Yeah, he sounds like one hell of a guy.[/URL][/QUOTE]
[URL="http://yanderedev.tumblr.com/post/119788924775/recent-allegations"]For what it's worth, Yandere-Dev refuted some allegations by the same guy like a really long time ago.[/URL]
[QUOTE]Sometimes, I have to let someone know that their contribution is too low-quality to meet my standards. Most volunteers are able to accept criticism with grace and maturity, but others are indignant, and react by becoming vindictive and attempting to slander and defame me. If someone can’t handle the fact that their work needs improvement and chooses to childishly lash out on tumblr, they need to grow up before they consider becoming part of a team.[/QUOTE]
I mean even if he has a questionable past how is that relevant to his game being banned on twitch? I mean you shouldn't really start banning games just on baseless rumors.
[editline]aaaaa[/editline]
Here's the original allegation made by Wunkolo/Deelekgolo on feburary 1st 2015
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ec4nBt9.png[/IMG]
([URL="http://wunkolo.tumblr.com/post/113667610807"]if you don't believe me he even posts the image of it himself)[/URL]
[QUOTE=Borndeadman;49587036][URL="http://yanderedev.tumblr.com/post/119788924775/recent-allegations"]For what it's worth, Yandere-Dev refuted these allegations like a long time ago.[/URL]
I mean even if he has a questionable past how is that relevant to his game being banned on twitch? I mean you shouldn't really start banning games just on baseless rumors.[/QUOTE]
Psshh, as if they'll accept that. It's much more trust worthy to just take random asshat on tumbler at his word.
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;49585130]Hating any media because of the creator's background is pretty lame. As long as the finished product is enjoyable, who cares?[/QUOTE]
I've had long discussions about separating the art from the artist, and concluded that it's not possible. The artist will affect your view on their art. You do it when you have a positive view of the author but it's only an issue if you a negative view of them.
[QUOTE=Mkt778;49585253][URL="http://wunkolo.tumblr.com/post/119800702632"]Yeah, he sounds like one hell of a guy.[/URL][/QUOTE]
I'm not going to hold shit against YandereDev for stuff that he did over 5 years ago. Especially when he's apologized and cleared it up with the parties involved (as the people above me have posted). He's been nothing but polite and respectful in his communication with his fanbase.
[QUOTE=Borndeadman;49587036][URL="http://yanderedev.tumblr.com/post/119788924775/recent-allegations"]For what it's worth, Yandere-Dev refuted these allegations like a long time ago.[/URL]
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[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;49587069]Psshh, as if they'll accept that. It's much more trust worthy to just take random asshat on tumbler at his word.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://wunkolo.tumblr.com/post/119800702632"]Wunkolo's post[/URL][B] is a reply to that yandere-dev's[/B]. yanderes refutation came before all that evidence was posted, meaning he wasnt refuting any of the shit in Wunkolo's post
[IMG]http://puu.sh/mFWjI/d2ef2033c3.png[/IMG]
[IMG]http://puu.sh/mFWkt/b08efa85bf.png[/IMG]
you can check the timestamps on the posts too
[QUOTE=KillRay;49587404][URL="http://wunkolo.tumblr.com/post/119800702632"]Wunkolo's post[/URL][B] is a reply to that yandere-dev's[/B]. yanderes refutation came before all that evidence was posted, meaning he wasnt refuting any of the shit in Wunkolo's post
[IMG]http://puu.sh/mFWjI/d2ef2033c3.png[/IMG]
[IMG]http://puu.sh/mFWkt/b08efa85bf.png[/IMG]
you can check the timestamps on the posts too[/QUOTE]
Yandere Dev actually made a 3 part rundown over the allegations made in Wunkolo's post about 4 days after it was posted.
Links:
[URL="http://yanderedev.tumblr.com/post/120037118895/clearing-up-misunderstandings-part-1-mike-z"]Clearing Up Misunderstandings, Part 1: Mike Z[/URL]
[URL="http://yanderedev.tumblr.com/post/120038953160/clearing-up-misunderstandings-part-2-is"]Clearing Up Misunderstandings, Part 2: Is YandereDev a pedophile?[/URL]
[URL="http://yanderedev.tumblr.com/post/120117999615/clearing-up-misunderstandings-part-3-volunteer"]Clearing Up Misunderstandings, Part 3: Volunteer Treatment[/URL]
[QUOTE=kjetil2;49587729]Yandere Dev actually made a 3 part rundown over the allegations made in Wunkolo's post about 4 days after it was posted.
Links:
[URL="http://yanderedev.tumblr.com/post/120037118895/clearing-up-misunderstandings-part-1-mike-z"]Clearing Up Misunderstandings, Part 1: Mike Z[/URL]
[URL="http://yanderedev.tumblr.com/post/120038953160/clearing-up-misunderstandings-part-2-is"]Clearing Up Misunderstandings, Part 2: Is YandereDev a pedophile?[/URL]
[URL="http://yanderedev.tumblr.com/post/120117999615/clearing-up-misunderstandings-part-3-volunteer"]Clearing Up Misunderstandings, Part 3: Volunteer Treatment[/URL][/QUOTE]
But that doesn't fit the narrative that he's a creep!
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