New USB-standard 3.1: "SuperSpeed USB", up to 100W powerdelivery, and now: DisplayPort compatability - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Cmx;46055348]20 amps running through a usb wire, WHAT COULD GO WRONG?[/QUOTE] This is a common misconception, and one I had myself, but it turns out that the maximum current will still be 5A. USB Power Delivery allows the device to negotiate a higher voltage, up to 20V. This is for powering devices like laptops and TVs that have a DC transformer. See slide 9 [URL="http://www.usb.org/developers/powerdelivery/PD_1.0_Introduction.pdf"]here[/URL]. [QUOTE=FunnyBunny;46054007]Wow 100 watts... you could charge your phone... so fast...[/QUOTE] First of all, I don't think there will be any phone that can handle the 20V that the 100W mode requires, and even if there were, the battery would most likely overheat and fail if it took in that much power.

[QUOTE=Amiga OS;46054911]We should go back to fucking huge D-sub connectors and thick cables with a massive bend radius.[/QUOTE] I'm not demanding that we have fucking BUS/TAG sized connectors. Just something bigger. Make it the size of the Mac Mini's uni-directional power connector and keep this tiny piece of shit connector they're forcing on us for phones, tablets and other thin devices. Not for shit like mice, printers or USB sticks. [img]http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/attachments/maccar/8475d1106652267-dc-dc-car-power-for-mac-mini-smvc-016f.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=TheDecryptor;46053884]The only thing Apple own is the connector (Which is shared with DisplayPort), and that's offered on a royalty free licence. The main reason it hasn't caught on much is because Intel isn't pushing it well (for whatever reason), they've only just recently made it a part of their chipset, and it shares PCIe lanes so if you're using a dedicated GFX card the performance tanks. Edit: Also, as long as Intel don't support VT-d in their consumer chipsets/CPUs, then Thunderbolt presents a security flaw (Like Firewire does).[/QUOTE] If an attacker gets physical access to your computer than your pc is fucked up Note: This applies to USB too Nevertheless I wants that VT-d capability though, it makes passthrough VM much more general

I bet by 4.0 we will have 2000w usb, everything to be USB soon.

[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;46056314]I bet by 4.0 we will have 2000w usb, everything to be USB soon.[/QUOTE] Then it really will be universal.

[QUOTE=Brt5470;46053573]Not all plugs are like this. And that doesn't help when it is a vertical port like every single motherboard port. I wish people would stop assuming this trick is actually applicable all the time.[/QUOTE] Memorize which way your ports are facing(half the usb insert is solid on the inside, while the other half of the inside is hollow, and there's 2 little squares that you can see into the inside from the side of it, and wow this sounds confusing idk how to word it) and then just insert them rotated the correct way after looking at it in your hand

20v? That scares me. There will probably be poorly made equipment out there that accidentally activate 20v mode and get fried.

New viruses that literally ignite your keyboard by pumping 100W into it

[QUOTE=woolio1;46051095]Well, if Apple didn't negotiate ridiculous licensing agreements with Intel, Thunderbolt could have been a pretty viable standard. But they did, and it's prohibitively expensive to buy a license to produce Thunderbolt-compatible products unless you're Apple, or affiliated with Apple.[/QUOTE] that's intel, not apple. Intel own full rights to Light Peak/Thunderbolt 1/2. [editline]23rd September 2014[/editline] Apple just co-designed it (apple made the connector, MiniDP). [quote=Wikipedia]Thunderbolt was co-developed by Apple an Intel. It was commercially introduced on Apple's 2011 Macbook Pro, using the same Apple-developed connector as Mini Displayport, which is electrically identical to DisplayPort, but uses a smaller, non-locking connector. Though the [I]Thunderbolt[/I] trademark was registered by Apple, full rights belong to Intel which subsequently led to the transfer of the registration from Apple to Intel.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Abaddon-ext4;46056269]If an attacker gets physical access to your computer than your pc is fucked up Note: This applies to USB too[/QUOTE] USB doesn't have DMA. Thunderbolt expends PCIe, and PCIe has DMA, so Thunderbolt is dangerous as hell. Only way you could be compromised via USB is, you don't lock your device, or you locked the device, but left it running, someone uses a BadUSB attack to feed you a network connection, and then exploits your OS through that.

But still, USB can compromise your pc too using Bad USB attack But there is nothing that can stop me from stealing your internal hard drive, trashing the pc, pouring water to it, throwing it away...

[QUOTE=Silikone;46057031]20v? That scares me. There will probably be poorly made equipment out there that accidentally activate 20v mode and get fried.[/QUOTE] Firewire regularly operated at 30v. Because it was part of the standard it was required that all devices must handle it.

[QUOTE=FunnyBunny;46054007]Wow 100 watts... you could charge your phone... so fast...[/QUOTE] It would charge at the maximum speed the battery could take. So probably as fast as it is right now.

[QUOTE=Chubbs;46060295]It would charge at the maximum speed the battery could take. So probably as fast as it is right now.[/QUOTE] I can't wait for when you can charge your phone from 0-100% in like 15 minutes, though

[QUOTE=Rixxz2;46068059]I can't wait for when you can charge your phone from 0-100% in like 15 minutes, though[/QUOTE] And then have it discharge in 15minutes because phone companies keep shrinking the fuckers.