[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;29448794]well china is trying to extend its reach into resource-rich areas in africa, with varying degrees of success[/QUOTE]
Nike sales suddenly skyrocket.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;29448812]I like how you as a person not living in China, is trying to describe the Chinese life to a person living in China.
Edit: Also 20 hours a day labour sounds very unreasonable.[/QUOTE]
is it impossible for someone from the US to describe with more accuracy what life is like in gaza than someone in israel?
i think burnemdown has proven to be a comprehensive example of why living in a country doesn't expressly give you knowledge of how that country operates
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29448851]say Tienanmen Square
whoop suddenly living in china aint so nice now issit[/QUOTE]
Sucks if you're an activist, and my mom's family isn't made up of political activists.
[QUOTE=lekooe;29448864]living in china is better than living in russia or any of the former soviet countries.[/QUOTE]
and living in russia is better than living in north africa
your point
[editline]26th April 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Tac Error;29448918]Sucks if you're an activist, and my mom's family isn't made up of political activists.[/QUOTE]
so if you're completely brainless and don't mind not having opinions that differ from those of the state then china sucks ass
well there you fucking go
[QUOTE=seano12;29447811][URL]http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/age-america-end-2016-china-blows-past-us-154221921.html%20?sec=topStories&pos=2&asset=&ccode=[/URL]
homefront anyone?[/QUOTE]
Tell me something I haven't know for years
also if you're tibetan
Oh no... What will we do... Yawn.
So how much longer until we have to know Chinese to use most of the content on the internet or get a good paying job?
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29448915][b]is it impossible for someone from the US to describe with more accuracy what life is like in gaza than someone in israel?[/b]
i think burnemdown has proven to be a comprehensive example of why living in a country doesn't expressly give you knowledge of how that country operates[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry but I don't understand the bolded part.
I have not mentioned anything about how the contry operates or its political agenda.
If a Chinese family, find that they are living a good life in China. Wouldn't it be strange if an American came and told them "You are living a shitty life in a shitty country".
That's how I interpreted his post.
Whatever. Those human rights violations are going to catch up to China eventually.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29448946]
so if you're completely brainless and don't mind not having opinions that differ from those of the state then china sucks ass
well there you fucking go[/QUOTE]
Wow. Just wow.
I don't get it. It's not like we got into pointless wars or threw money at rich people or anything.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;29449048]I'm sorry but I don't understand the bolded part.
I have not mentioned anything about how the contry operates or its political agenda.
If a Chinese family, find that they are living a good life in China. Wouldn't it be strange if an American came and told them "You are living a shitty life in a shitty country".
That's how I interpreted his post.[/QUOTE]
im just saying that living in china doesnt make you an expert on the living conditions of everyone in china
[editline]26th April 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Tac Error;29449081]Wow. Just wow.[/QUOTE]
see now if you were in china right now i wouldn't have to bother with your drivel because the internet censor would have picked up on the phrase tienanmen square and blocked you from this thread
but whatever, if you must, continue
I'm glad America won't be number one anymore, but I'm not glad that China will surpass us. I'd rather see American supremacy than the authoritarian Chinese supremacy.
Well, things are changing, but I dunno if they'll roll as we expect. For all we know there could be a great war just around the corner, which could reshuffle whatever carefully-stacked deck of cards is on the table.
[QUOTE=ironman17;29449187]Well, things are changing, but I dunno if they'll roll as we expect. For all we know there could be a great war just around the corner, which could reshuffle whatever carefully-stacked deck of cards is on the table.[/QUOTE]
if by reshuffle you mean turn the card table into an unlivable radioactive hellscape caught in the midst of nuclear winter then yes
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29449112]im just saying that living in china doesnt make you an expert on the living conditions of everyone in china
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Yeah, then living in outside of China must make your opinion rather wortheless. Or?
Because surely you'd know more about living in China than an outsider does, if you actually lives in China. I'm not talking about the lifes of everyone, I'm talking about on individual or a family.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29449112]
see now if you were in china right now i wouldn't have to bother with your drivel because the internet censor would have picked up on the phrase tienanmen square and blocked you from this thread
but whatever, if you must, continue
[/QUOTE]
No, that's not how their censor system works. You are really ignorant just for your information.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29448946]
so if you're completely brainless and don't mind not having opinions that differ from those of the state then china sucks ass
well there you fucking go[/QUOTE]
??
China has been here for 5000 years. The USA, not even 300. China has risen and collapsed. Just like all civilizations and countries.
communism works!
[QUOTE=Swebonny;29449220]Yeah, then living in outside of China must make your opinion rather wortheless. Or?
Because surely you'd know more about living in China than an outsider does, if you actually lives in China. I'm not talking about the lifes of everyone, I'm talking about on individual or a family.
No, that's not how their censor system works. You are really ignorant just for your information.[/QUOTE]
I'm trying to say that individual anecdotal experience does not negate any information one might have on the living conditions, life expectancy, and limits to freedom of expression that one might have.
He gave me a non answer, I gave him one back.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29449217]if by reshuffle you mean turn the card table into an unlivable radioactive hellscape caught in the midst of nuclear winter then yes[/QUOTE]
That's always a possibility, but then again don't we have anti-missile defenses, stuff that can shoot down nukes before they do too much damage?
Besides, just because a great war breaks out, doesn't necessarily mean nuclear annihilation. Only the truly brain-damaged and criminally-insane war criminals would let loose ALL their nukes at once, let alone use nukes at all. There's just too much at risk with them. Also, I kinda heard that modern nukes apparently have less fallout, except for the dirty bombs.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;29448673]So it'd take two things for China to become dominant- they have to build the ability to project power worldwide AND the US needs to lose the power to do the same. If we both have the same or similar power then it'll just be a replay of the US/Soviet struggle to dominate, where one side would have part of the world and the other side would have the other part. Even then it's okay as long as you have the good half.[/QUOTE]
Compared to the US, the Soviet Union during the Cold War had a noticeably inferior ability to project power since its maritime power was built on SSBNs rather than aircraft carriers. The Soviet Naval Infantry weren't like the US Marines (they were amphibious "shock troops" and the task to carry the fight further inland would be done by motorized rifle and tank troops from a subsequent echelon instead. Not only that, but they were tailored to operate in the Baltic and Turkish Straits) and its chance of building a "real" carrier fleet was lost after Dmitriy Ustinov became Defense Minister in 1976 - who effectively killed off carriers like the Project 1160 in favor of [i]Kiev[/i]-class monstrosities.
With this in mind, I believe that a power with an inferiority in power projection can still challenge a dominant superpower.
On the US losing power, I've heard a few former officers in the US military who are confident that eventually "we're well on the way to bankrupting ourselves like the Soviet Union did with unnecessary and expensive equipment".
I'm mostly worried about the United States resting on it's success. Yes, we are a great nation and have contributed a lot to the world. But if we get too satisfied and lazy, other nations will supersede us.
[QUOTE=cqbcat;29449565]I'm mostly worried about the United States resting on it's success. Yes, we are a great nation and have contributed a lot to the world. But if we get too satisfied and lazy, other nations will supersede us.[/QUOTE]
You're talking as if it was something of the future.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29449313]I'm trying to say that individual anecdotal experience does not negate any information one might have on the living conditions, life expectancy, and limits to freedom of expression that one might have.
He gave me a non answer, I gave him one back.[/QUOTE]
Now I understand what you were trying to say.
I'm quite sure that most of the Chinese people are aware of their current situation, such as that they are actually living under a totalitarian government and have limited freedom of expression. The people in China aren't retarded, they know how a western society works and how democracy works.( It seems to me that you are mixing North Korea and China with each other. I've been there over 15 times and traveled to several cities and met several people, I know.)
However I think it's wrong to question how a person lives if he finds that he's living a good life. It reminds me of the history books, that told about the colonialists, which deemed that the Indians were uncivilized and needed to be "re-educated". I mean if one individual is having an okay life, there's no need to question him about it.
Sure the bigger picture might be completely differnet . . . but I was talking about Tac Error's mother, which is one individual.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;29449692]Sure the bigger picture might be completely differnet . . . but I was talking about Tac Error's mother, which is one individual.[/QUOTE]
Actually the part of my mom's family who lives on the Mainland (in places like Guangzhou), as opposed to Hong Kong.
[QUOTE=Last or First;29447999]Oh no! We won't be the most powerful anymore! How the fuck will we get by without the entire world revolving around us! IT'S THE APOCOLYPSE! WE WON'T BE ABLE TO BRAG AND BE CONCEITED AS MUCH! WE WON'T BE THE MAIN CHARACTER IN THE WORLD! CATS AND DOGS LIVING IN HARMONY![/QUOTE]
Technically the world does revolve around the US and it's idiocies, on Facepunch at least.
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[QUOTE=Swebonny;29449048]I'm sorry but I don't understand the bolded part.
I have not mentioned anything about how the contry operates or its political agenda.
If a Chinese family, find that they are living a good life in China. Wouldn't it be strange if an American came and told them "You are living a shitty life in a shitty country".
That's how I interpreted his post.[/QUOTE]
Based on the stories about China's streets being dangerous, the apartments the size of an American bedroom and the horrid fascist, communist undertone of the Chinese government one can safely assume the standards of living there are much worse.
[QUOTE=Da Jester;29448277]Britain got most of it's power through slavery bro.[/QUOTE]
Nope, It got powerful by being an island nations. Islands tend to become trading centres and build up huge navies. Slavery played a large part but without warships or ports no trade could have been done or the empire expanded and protected.
Even then Britain banned the slave trade at the start of the 1800s and the royal navy was continually engaged in stopping the slave trading ships.
Britain became a world power because they invented the modern steam engine, and exploited the technology they invented to the absolute maximum.
It's just trying to make people paranoid. I'm American so whether this makes this biased or not, whatever, I don't care.
Yes China's economy is making a boom...in places like Shanghai and Beijing. The rest of the country is seriously still living in straw huts and are rice farmers who probably don't even know what the internet is. Whether this makes sense or not is also debatable but its a point of view is that great empires spanned for hundreds of years. America has been on top since the 1950s, thats only like 60 years. We've got time.
China also commits human rights violations AAAALLLL the time and the standard of living their is pretty damn bad, unlike America.
What I'm getting at is those commercials like the Chinese college students saying how they own America in the future is just trying to scare people. We'll be fine.
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