[QUOTE=StupidUsername67;41946432]I wonder if you can feel the difference in balance[/QUOTE]
I'm actually curious about this. Maybe they put some sort of weight in place of the part they removed?
[QUOTE=Karl L;41946822]I'm actually curious about this. Maybe they put some sort of weight in place of the part they removed?[/QUOTE]
The empty half fills with brain fluid, it's the same density as the brain.
[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;41946795]Exactly[/QUOTE]
More than 3% of your brain is dedicated to automatic body functions like breathing, heartbeat, etc
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41946791]Um I'm not confused about plasticity, I'm confused about what Bisous is saying, he said "When this sort of surgery is done very young the brain will actually use the remaining half of the brain almost just as well as someone with a full brain.", that literally just straight up says that a half of a brain will be almost as good as a full brain, this implies that that half is almost equal to 1, which makes it approximately 2x better.[/QUOTE]
no you dolt. half a brain doesn't = 2x or whatever.
half a brain, if it is still very plastic, can rewire itself so the body can still function properly.
half a brain is not "2x better"
Sure would suck if he started having seizures again.
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[i]Quarter of a brain later, hopefully no more seizures![/i]
[QUOTE=ShazzyFreak0;41946848]no you dolt. half a brain doesn't = 2x or whatever.
half a brain, if it is still very plastic, can rewire itself so the body can still function properly.
half a brain is not "2x better"[/QUOTE]
So then he's not saying the right thing? He said it can function "as well as someone with a full brain", if he meant that just able to function their body the same, then fine, but he didn't SAY that, which is why I was questioning him.
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41946873]So then he's not saying the right thing? He said it can function "as well as someone with a full brain", if he meant that just able to function their body the same, then fine, but he didn't SAY that, which is why I was questioning him.[/QUOTE]
I'm starting to think you're trolling at this point.
No one can be this dumb.
[QUOTE=NoobSauce;41946880]I'm starting to think you're trolling at this point.
No one can be this dumb.[/QUOTE]
Okay sorry, he said something that was different from what was meant.
[QUOTE=Karl L;41946822]I'm actually curious about this. Maybe they put some sort of weight in place of the part they removed?[/QUOTE]
It's still there, it's just not connected to anything.
The brain is mostly water anyways. I'm sure his body has autocorrected itself by now, if there was any weight difference, and has normal balance. I feel like it would be something that you'd just get used to.
They wanted to do this surgery on my fiance due to his seizures. No amount of meds will completely stop them but he's far too old to have any chance of coming back even semi-normal after that kind of surgery. Kids adapt to it easier due to how the brain works,adults not so much.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;41946762]Don't they sever the corpus collussum? Isolating the two halves of the brain to prevent seizures?[/QUOTE]
Here we go.
[video=youtube;82tlVcq6E7A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82tlVcq6E7A[/video]
[QUOTE=iJeax;41946445]It blows my mind how you can live without one half of your brain and be somewhat normal, if not completely normal.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://dcmaster.ru/linksys.jpg[/img]
still works with a single antenna
[QUOTE=FluD;41947157][img]http://dcmaster.ru/linksys.jpg[/img]
still works with a single antenna[/QUOTE]
But it still fails to find a connection
[QUOTE=FluD;41947157][img]http://dcmaster.ru/linksys.jpg[/img]
still works with a single antenna[/QUOTE]
that's a pretty terrible analogy.
Okay, really simple:
The young brain is like a big bag of wire with some of them connected to each others.
When you remove a part, it will detect it, and use the "spare" wire to remake the missing connection, effectively "fixing" the brain.
But of course, it's simplified to the extreme. Don't take it literally, the brain is more complex than that :v:
I think one day we will find that this procedure was like cutting off your leg because of a splinter in your foot. However, I am very glad that these people can lead normal lives. The medical field today truly is a great wonder of the world.
Apparently one person with this procedure went through graduate school.
"One case, demonstrated by Smith & Sugar, 1975; A. Smith 1987, demonstrated that one patient with this procedure had completed college, attended graduate school and scored above average on intelligence tests."
Well their brains are certainly more compact.
[QUOTE=The First 11'er;41946484]I'm no doctor, could someone explain how this would affect performing daily tasks and body functions?[/QUOTE]
Probably negligibly, The human brain is amazing in its ability to adapt to what it has to work with. I imagine it would suck if you had it performed as an adult; losing such huge chunks of memory and such.
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41946873]So then he's not saying the right thing? He said it can function "as well as someone with a full brain", if he meant that just able to function their body the same, then fine, but he didn't SAY that, which is why I was questioning him.[/QUOTE]
In a way yes. The remaining half becomes better in much the same way that learning a new skill makes your brain better, but it's definitely losing something in the process. If a full human brain can remember, for example, 2 petabytes, and then you remove half of the brain, then the remaining 1 petabyte will still be more than enough memory to work normally. If the part of the brain that allows you to see through one eye is gone, then the other half will combine the sight from both eyes into one process. It's probably not as effective, but it works fine. I'm guessing that there would be small side-effects. Perhaps something like, not being able to tell which eye is getting blurry vision.
[QUOTE=Jager_57;41948028]If the part of the brain that allows you to see through one eye is gone, then the other half will combine the sight from both eyes into one process.[/QUOTE]
That's not how it works.
The eye opposite to the hemisphere removed will be 100% blind (ie. 50% vision loss) due to the fact that eyes are connected to the front of each opposite hemisphere of the brain. And visual information is processed in the back of both hemispheres of the brain, so even if one hemisphere could do double duty, the optic nerve is severed and can't provide any information.
[QUOTE=The First 11'er;41946484]I'm no doctor, could someone explain how this would affect performing daily tasks and body functions?[/QUOTE]
Probably not very much, while the brain has areas that are dedicated to certain things like processing visual data and the like it's more than capable of reworking itself to change what certain areas do.
Although he probably has issues with the whole artistic/logic balance in the brain now.
[QUOTE=loopoo;41946574]Could they not have tried the route those other parents took, with the tincture of cannabis oils or something? I'd much rather try that avenue for my kid than go and get half his brain removed.[/QUOTE]
not everything can be solved with cannabis
[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;41948260]not everything can be solved with cannabis[/QUOTE]
That wasn't my point, I realize it cannot be used to cure everything, I'm not saying it can. I don't know if you guys remember or not but there was a couple who had a child who had severe seizures, and they managed to use cannabis oils to help their child. All I was saying was could they not have tried that less drastic measure before removing half of the brain? It's what I'd have done if it was my own child.
[QUOTE=loopoo;41948319]That wasn't my point, I realize it cannot be used to cure everything, I'm not saying it can. I don't know if you guys remember or not but there was a couple who had a child who had severe seizures, and they managed to use cannabis oils to help their child. All I was saying was could they not have tried that less drastic measure before removing half of the brain? It's what I'd have done if it was my own child.[/QUOTE]
yeah sure, use cannabis oil on your own kid instead of opting with a medical procedure that's been done before and has worked.
seriously, cannabis oil? are they supposed to get their kid high every time a seizure happens or something?
[QUOTE=iJeax;41946445][B]It blows my mind[/B] how you can live without one half of your brain and be somewhat normal, if not completely normal.[/QUOTE]
heh
what did they do with the other half of the brain
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can i have it
[QUOTE=loopoo;41946574]Could they not have tried the route those other parents took, with the tincture of cannabis oils or something? I'd much rather try that avenue for my kid than go and get half his brain removed.[/QUOTE]
how is this dumb
I'd do literally any other treatment than getting his brain removed before having to do this
[QUOTE=ShazzyFreak0;41948348]yeah sure, use cannabis oil on your own kid instead of opting with a medical procedure that's been done before and has worked.
seriously, cannabis oil? are they supposed to get their kid high every time a seizure happens or something?[/QUOTE]
Actually he's right, there was a story on it a little while back and I'm pretty sure the tincture was pretty inactive in terms of it getting the kid high, you really think they would just give him liquid weed?
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