Tennessee Governer proposes free college for all future high school graduates - Polidicks

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;43852806]this looks like typical state school tuition for out-of-state students there's a very good reason not to leave your state for undergrad[/QUOTE] I didn't leave my state, that is the standard rate for my college. Luckily I get a shit ton of grants and scholarships so it is not too bad.

[QUOTE=Skarr;43825919]At least you're getting that. My parents apparently make too much, despite them not making enough to have saved anything for me or help me pay. I'm going to have to rely on loans.[/QUOTE] you and me both brother. I can't afford college yet apparently still make too much. No grants for me. yaaay america.

[QUOTE=Tmaxx;43853061]you and me both brother. I can't afford college yet apparently still make too much. No grants for me. yaaay america.[/QUOTE] It's ridiculous. I'm very tempted to go to CC since I live in TN and it's already really cheap as compared to attending a university, but the community colleges here are literally High School 2.0. They are awful.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;43824057]I'm moving to Florida for college in July, and looking at a rate of about $4500 plus books and supplies per semester. Our education system is so flippin' borked. Each small step towards universal education is a step in the right direction. Why we're treating education like a privilege for the wealthy is completely beyond me, since a well-educated society is a more prosperous society as a whole. Expensive, privatized education is holding our future back in a big way.[/QUOTE] Although university in Canada is probably sitting around 25k-30k average a year, which put some cousins of mine in debt till their 30s.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;43853145]Without grants, unless you're rich, there's no way to go to college to be profitable. (as in you can go if you like being in debt the rest of your life)[/QUOTE] That can depend on your major and your ability. If you go into a good field and can maintain good grades you can often go to graduate school for free if not end up making money off of it. Then with a masters you can get into a fairly high paying job. The people I feel bad for are the people going tens of thousands of dollars in debt for a arts or business degree then not doing anything with them.

Hey, good news guys! This actually does impact college students negatively. I'm losing $1000 from my HOPE next year if this passes! Woohoo! ... Screw Governor Haslam...

[QUOTE=woolio1;43853654]Hey, good news guys! This actually does impact college students negatively. I'm losing $1000 from my HOPE next year if this passes! Woohoo! ... Screw Governor Haslam...[/QUOTE] I hate to be that guy, but an additional $1000 in loans is kind of worth a bunch of other people getting a degree they could not afford.

[QUOTE=imptastick;43854394]I hate to be that guy, but an additional $1000 in loans is kind of worth a bunch of other people getting a degree they could not afford.[/QUOTE] Problem is, a lot of this money is going to go to waste. If someone's coming out of high school with a 2.0 GPA, how are they going to graduate college? Sure, there will be a huge minority who will graduate and do well, but there's also going to be a bigger majority who won't. Keep in mind, only 1/3 of our state's citizens have high school diplomas. Fewer have GEDs. It does not bode well for this program, no matter how hard we will it.

[QUOTE=woolio1;43854533]Problem is, a lot of this money is going to go to waste. If someone's coming out of high school with a 2.0 GPA, how are they going to graduate college? Sure, there will be a huge minority who will graduate and do well, but there's also going to be a bigger majority who won't. Keep in mind, only 1/3 of our state's citizens have high school diplomas. Fewer have GEDs. It does not bode well for this program, no matter how hard we will it.[/QUOTE] Even when tuition fees are subsidised or paid for totally by the state, colleges still aren't going to accept students who haven't done well in previous levels of education. After all, why would they? If it's obvious the applicant won't do remotely well, it would be a waste of money and every one else's time to let them in. Unless this bit of legalisation forces colleges to let everyone in, it's a non-issue.

[QUOTE=woolio1;43854533]Problem is, a lot of this money is going to go to waste. If someone's coming out of high school with a 2.0 GPA, how are they going to graduate college? Sure, there will be a huge minority who will graduate and do well, but there's also going to be a bigger majority who won't. Keep in mind, only 1/3 of our state's citizens have high school diplomas. Fewer have GEDs. It does not bode well for this program, no matter how hard we will it.[/QUOTE] That's why an incentive needs to be put in for attaining atleast a 2.5 or 3.0 GPA for this to be put into effect, you want people to work for it, but you don't want them to focus [B]all[/B] of their time filling out scholarship applications when they should be studying, etc.

This reminds me of that episode of the office where Michael promises all of those inner city kids that he'll pay for their college, and doesn't have enough money to do it.

[QUOTE=chipset;43824002]Meanwhile in socialist Sweden, we've had free education for ages. In fact, the government gives people money to study.[/QUOTE] Good job sounding like a pompous prick about it!

Just to think I was freaking the fuck out the other day trying to think How I'll pay for College Wow, Thanks Bill!