[QUOTE=Faren;18418872][sp]Dude... In the last part of MW2 you're fighting the Americans and killing a shitload of them.[/sp][/QUOTE]
But also some [sp]TERRRORISTS[/sp] so it's all good.
Sometimes; Fuck our parents generation. They always (especially my parents) think video games is reality and that it hurts you (mentally, like going nuts on an airport, like this example). Sometimes they just need to chill out. It's entertainment. Not reality.
[QUOTE=Petrussen;18420326]Sometimes; Fuck our parents generation. They always (especially my parents) think video games is reality and that it hurts you (mentally, like going nuts on an airport, like this example). Sometimes they just need to chill out. It's entertainment. Not reality.[/QUOTE]
When you go outside, or look in the mirror, do you wish you looked like Solid Snake? Then there is a problem.
Otherwise, it's just a nice escape.
There are a few cases of kids being too into games, Take that Stepmania Wall-puncher, and the Got Milk wall puncher. Of course their only victims of violence so far have been walls and a LCD
[QUOTE=Xystus234;18421852]When you go outside, or look in the mirror, do you wish you looked like Solid Snake?[/QUOTE]
Why would someone do that?
Fair enough.. i think exactly the same would happen were it a Russian game containing a whole level about killing civilians in an American airport..
Well [sp]Makarov did kill Allen who was an American and Shepherd killed Roach and Ghost who were both Brits[/sp] but no one flipped shit about either of those.
But I guess it's not really the same.
[QUOTE=Pascall;18422165]
But I guess it's not really the same.[/QUOTE]
It really is not.
to those saying that America wouldn't ban a game portraying them as the bad guys, I must remind you of a Movie that was banned in America for nearly a decade for making Americans look bad.
oddly enough, it was a [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godzilla_vs_King_Ghidorah#Controversy]Godzilla[/url] movie.
so don't be surprised if an Anti-American game never sees U.S. shores.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;18413744]Tell Russia to make their own games that cater to their own asses then[/QUOTE]
We do. We make strategy games.
I agree with the Russians on their firm opposition to this game, particularly that airport level, but for a altered reason.
In a movie, if you see a massacre, you're observing it in a passive state. This is far different from actually participating in the massacre. Would you call a game in which part of the objective to win was to rape children a good game? If you have any decency then you would say no. But rapists are thrown into prison, not executed (at least in most developed countries.) In this game, you're actually taking part in an action that people are put to death for doing. What is more troublesome is that you have teens and possibly even younger playing this who will not know any better about how absolutely wrong it is to mercilessly gun down helpless innocent lives. These aren't zombies. They aren't enemy soldiers shooting back at you. They aren't aliens trying to suck out your brain. They are civilians incapable of defending themselves.
99.9% of gamers would take this and just blow by it without a second thought. What is worrisome is that .1% who will use that as a base to commit a real life mass killing of their own. And don't brush that off: mass killings are becoming more and more common in both plots intercepted before execution and actual incidences that were too late to stop.
Who cares what Russia does?
[QUOTE=Wolf_Marine;18427200]I agree with the Russians on their firm opposition to this game, particularly that airport level, but for a altered reason.
In a movie, if you see a massacre, you're observing it in a passive state. This is far different from actually participating in the massacre. Would you call a game in which part of the objective to win was to rape children a good game? If you have any decency then you would say no. But rapists are thrown into prison, not executed (at least in most developed countries.) In this game, you're actually taking part in an action that people are put to death for doing. What is more troublesome is that you have teens and possibly even younger playing this who will not know any better about how absolutely wrong it is to mercilessly gun down helpless innocent lives. These aren't zombies. They aren't enemy soldiers shooting back at you. They aren't aliens trying to suck out your brain. They are civilians incapable of defending themselves.
99.9% of gamers would take this and just blow by it without a second thought. What is worrisome is that .1% who will use that as a base to commit a real life mass killing of their own. And don't brush that off: mass killings are becoming more and more common in both plots intercepted before execution and actual incidences that were too late to stop.[/QUOTE]
oh boo hoo
it's not even .1%
[QUOTE=Wolf_Marine;18427200]I agree with the Russians on their firm opposition to this game, particularly that airport level, but for a altered reason.
In a movie, if you see a massacre, you're observing it in a passive state. This is far different from actually participating in the massacre. Would you call a game in which part of the objective to win was to rape children a good game? If you have any decency then you would say no. But rapists are thrown into prison, not executed (at least in most developed countries.) In this game, you're actually taking part in an action that people are put to death for doing. What is more troublesome is that you have teens and possibly even younger playing this who will not know any better about how absolutely wrong it is to mercilessly gun down helpless innocent lives. These aren't zombies. They aren't enemy soldiers shooting back at you. They aren't aliens trying to suck out your brain. They are civilians incapable of defending themselves.
99.9% of gamers would take this and just blow by it without a second thought. What is worrisome is that .1% who will use that as a base to commit a real life mass killing of their own. And don't brush that off: mass killings are becoming more and more common in both plots intercepted before execution and actual incidences that were too late to stop.[/QUOTE]Wow, there would be way more mass killings going on if .1% of all gamers used games as a base to commit a real life mass killing.
Good thing you have no idea what you're talking about.
[QUOTE=seano12;18400538]Next up : Russia bans L4D2 for catering to Americans[/QUOTE]
Next up: Russia bans America for catering to Americans
I would ban the entire game too because the developers assumed that the entire country of Russia is fucking retarded.
HEY 200 PEOPLE DIED LETS INVADE THE GLOBAL SUPERPOWER LOLOLOLOL
I just played trough the airport mission, i think it was awesome.
Russia don't want to lose any ground to America, through any form.
[QUOTE=seano12;18400538]Next up : Russia bans L4D2 for catering to Americans[/QUOTE]
Yeah, no
Why do you guys think they're out of line and that they wouldn't care if it was the other way around? Hypocritical way of thinking, don't you think? What if it WAS the other way around and the US was portrayed as terrorists and got absolutely dominated or whatever happens? Yeah, that'd be nice, see how you all act then
[QUOTE=Kung Fu Jew;18444420]Yeah, no
Why do you guys think they're out of line and that they wouldn't care if it was the other way around? Hypocritical way of thinking, don't you think? What if it WAS the other way around and the US was portrayed as terrorists and got absolutely dominated or whatever happens? Yeah, that'd be nice, see how you all act then[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure everyone would act the same.
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[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;18432184]I would ban the entire game too because the developers assumed that the entire country of Russia is fucking retarded.
HEY 200 PEOPLE DIED LETS INVADE THE GLOBAL SUPERPOWER LOLOLOLOL[/QUOTE]
Wars have been started for less.
[QUOTE=fear me;18411271]There are absolutely no terrorists in or from Russia.
Absolutely not. Never have been, never will be.
Not in science fiction or even in your dreams.
NEVER
[editline]07:59PM[/editline]
Especially not in even your wildest of dreams. Oh, no, we'll have none of that.
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Nor in your nightmares, your private daily thoughts, your conversations with your pets, self, and friends and not written on paper, of course.
It is all in your imagination. Oh, wait, no it isn't. Imagining such filthy thoughts is against the law.
THE MATRIXHASYOUTHEMATRICXHASDDYOURTGOERHIQWERHJIPWRJHPIEGOWJOPWAGR[/QUOTE]
Russia is to [I]gay[/I] to start a war.
[QUOTE=redBadger;18409616]The russians aren't losing anything great.[/QUOTE]
In fact, they should be THANKFUL.
[editline]09:52PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;18432184]I would ban the entire game too because the developers assumed that the entire country of Russia is fucking retarded.
HEY 200 PEOPLE DIED LETS INVADE THE GLOBAL SUPERPOWER LOLOLOLOL[/QUOTE]
Thank... You...
*wipes tear from battle scarred face due to shit plot line
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;18444533]Wars have been started for less.[/QUOTE]
Yeah like what, the Trojan war? LOL
Honestly, if you take a little bit of time to think about it, you will understand how right the Russian government is about this.
I am a Russian living in Canada, and I go to high school, so I see how the general teenage populace reacts to these kinds of games. They are easily influenced.
In COD4, the British are depicted as badasses, shooting through hundreds of "Spetsnaz" as if they were boy soldiers with no combat armor. Spetsnaz: Russian Special Forces, not fucking terrorists that use outdated weapons. Like the myth that the Russian military still has standard issue AK47s. Just like the original M16 being constantly updated by the Americans, the Russians developed and kept their weapons up to date. The AN-94 is in common use now, and is very similar to any other modern assault rifle.
Even the good Russians are shown as pussies in COD4, with Captain Price bullying Makarov. Price would have been shot on sight if something like that happened, and the Russian government would simply send a message saying they were KIA. It would be a fair bet that a top ranking Spetsnaz would have the same combat ability as the top ranking USA Delta commando, seeing as they learn the same things, only slightly different variations and training methods. If there was a game made by any country showing the Americans off as terrorists, and having a level were you go to an Airport and start a massacre killing dozens of innocent American civilians, the game wouldn't even get a second chance. In fact, the USA would probably try to get the game banned everywhere.
[QUOTE=Teh Soviet;18448396]Honestly, if you take a little bit of time to think about it, you will understand how right the Russian government is about this.
I am a Russian living in Canada, and I go to high school, so I see how the general teenage populace reacts to these kinds of games. They are easily influenced.
In COD4, the British are depicted as badasses, shooting through hundreds of "Spetsnaz" as if they were boy soldiers with no combat armor. Spetsnaz: Russian Special Forces, not fucking terrorists that use outdated weapons. Like the myth that the Russian military still has standard issue AK47s. Just like the original M16 being constantly updated by the Americans, the Russians developed and kept their weapons up to date. The AN-94 is in common use now, and is very similar to any other modern assault rifle.
Even the good Russians are shown as pussies in COD4, with Captain Price bullying Makarov. Price would have been shot on sight if something like that happened, and the Russian government would simply send a message saying they were KIA. It would be a fair bet that a top ranking Spetsnaz would have the same combat ability as the top ranking USA Delta commando, seeing as they learn the same things, only slightly different variations and training methods. If there was a game made by any country showing the Americans off as terrorists, and having a level were you go to an Airport and start a massacre killing dozens of innocent American civilians, the game wouldn't even get a second chance. In fact, the USA would probably try to get the game banned everywhere.[/QUOTE]
You can do that in any GTA game that has an airport. Calm down.
[QUOTE=cyanide101;18448439]You can do that in any GTA game that has an airport. Calm down.[/QUOTE]
Great example. GTA is set in a fictional city, and is meant to be humorous. I have no doubts every GTA game has troubles getting released, and has to remove some things. The old GTA games don't count, because back then people understood that video games aren't meant to be used for reference towards real life. Unlike now, many retards don't have a fucking clue, and the government has taken a closer concern towards them.
But what else? You go around killing Russians, who are shown as complete pussies and fags.
[QUOTE=Teh Soviet;18448521]
But what else? You go around killing Russians, who are shown as complete pussies and fags.[/QUOTE]
[sp]AND THEY DON'T NEED TANKS FOR INVASION AT ALL![/sp] :mad:
[QUOTE=Teh Soviet;18448521]Great example. GTA is set in a fictional city, and is meant to be humorous. I have no doubts every GTA game has troubles getting released, and has to remove some things. The old GTA games don't count, because back then people understood that video games aren't meant to be used for reference towards real life. Unlike now, many retards don't have a fucking clue, and the government has taken a closer concern towards them.
But what else? You go around killing Russians, who are shown as complete pussies and fags.[/QUOTE]
Uhhh, this is not something new. The old games caused controversy as well. Not nearly as much, but to some extent.
That airport level was hilariously stupid.
I actually felt sad running into a crowd of people and mass raping them with grenades etc.
But, it's a game. And kids are not effected by it.
[QUOTE=Teh Soviet;18448396]Honestly, if you take a little bit of time to think about it, you will understand how right the Russian government is about this.
I am a Russian living in Canada, and I go to high school, so I see how the general teenage populace reacts to these kinds of games. They are easily influenced.
In COD4, the British are depicted as badasses, shooting through hundreds of "Spetsnaz" as if they were boy soldiers with no combat armor. Spetsnaz: Russian Special Forces, not fucking terrorists that use outdated weapons. Like the myth that the Russian military still has standard issue AK47s. Just like the original M16 being constantly updated by the Americans, the Russians developed and kept their weapons up to date. The AN-94 is in common use now, and is very similar to any other modern assault rifle.
Even the good Russians are shown as pussies in COD4, with Captain Price bullying Makarov. Price would have been shot on sight if something like that happened, and the Russian government would simply send a message saying they were KIA. It would be a fair bet that a top ranking Spetsnaz would have the same combat ability as the top ranking USA Delta commando, seeing as they learn the same things, only slightly different variations and training methods. If there was a game made by any country showing the Americans off as terrorists, and having a level were you go to an Airport and start a massacre killing dozens of innocent American civilians, the game wouldn't even get a second chance. In fact, the USA would probably try to get the game banned everywhere.[/QUOTE]The AN-94 is not commonly used due to it being rather complicated and expensive for not enough benefit, the AK-74M (started production in 91) is the more common one. /incomprehensiblyminornitpick
Otherwise, I agree.
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