You release the photos, you get people calling them fake.
You don't release the photos, you get people saying he's still alive.
The fuck do you do in this situation?
[QUOTE=Str4t0s;29614204]I dont understand WHY they wont release a photo. I want to know for 100% that he is dead.[/QUOTE]
It's pretty fucking obvious why they shouldn't release it. It'll only make the U.S. look worse.
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;29614004]And if the photos are released, would you accept them as evidence or just call them fake?
Releasing them would not change the conspiracy nut's minds and probably just provoke extremists even more.
Even if they still had the body and showed it the conspiracy nuts would just say that it's a doppelganger.[/QUOTE]
How the fuck am I supposed to know unless I see them? That's like asking me if I'm gonna throw up my dinner before I know if it's going to agree with me or not.
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[QUOTE=Noth;29614236]You release the photos, you get people calling them fake.
You don't release the photos, you get people saying he's still alive.
The fuck do you do in this situation?[/QUOTE]
We just went over this with the birth certificate problem. People stopped caring once they finally just released it.
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;29614182]No, but it's understandable why some people are glad he is dead, even if it is wrong.[/QUOTE]
Yeah yeah, I see it from all perspectives believe me. I'm glad he's dead too, well tbh I didn't see it coming as of yet, but it happened. It's justice. He was responsible for needless deaths so he (needlessly?) died too. And I didn't say killing Osama was wrong, because it wasn't wrong or immoral or anything. It's justice.
This thing is bugging with my head, this whole death thing. I've began to think there are more unnatural deaths than natural deaths when it comes down to us humans dying.. damn.
[QUOTE=Sanius;29614150]There is no valid reason for them to release a photograph of a person's mangled head. DNA evidence is all that's necessary.[/QUOTE]
They didn't allow anybody but themselves to confirm the body. We are assuming he is dead based purely on the word of the military.
[editline]4th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Explosions;29613878]As I said, they would just claim that the evidence is fake.[/QUOTE]
So I guess when you're in a courtroom you should withhold evidence because you figure they'll just claim it's fake right?
[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;29614279]They didn't allow anybody but themselves to confirm the body. We are assuming he is dead based purely on the word of the military.[/QUOTE]
You don't trust Obama? He made a public announcement that they killed Osama, who was responsible for the death of thousands of innocent people.
I don't think there's anything fishy about this. Osama had it coming, because that just won't do.
Like I said in the other thread
[quote]Okay I am really starting to doubt they killed Osama.
I'm thinking that Obama did all this to raise his popularity[/quote]
aaagh why is being skeptical of the government viewed as an inherently bad thing now
i mean when did that happen
I almost miss the bush administration because at least then being a conspiracy theorist wasn't as looked down upon (at least on the internet)
[QUOTE=Sanius;29614247]It's pretty fucking obvious why they shouldn't release it. It'll only make the U.S. look worse.[/QUOTE]
In which way it would make them look worse? Anyone can say they killed Osama, now lets see a hard proof.
[QUOTE=ionuttzu;29614327]Like I said in the other thread[/QUOTE]
If he wasn't dead, wouldn't he have put out another video by now?
And that's not the kind of thing the US can cover up, they're not the first to get it
It does not matter if they release it. It won't be proof because folk's will just say it's fake, gay, and Photoshopped.
[QUOTE=Sanius;29614247]It's pretty fucking obvious why they shouldn't release it. It'll only make the U.S. look worse.[/QUOTE]
Worse! this whole event has made the u.s. look better.
[QUOTE=Sanius;29614247]It's pretty fucking obvious why they shouldn't release it. It'll only make the U.S. look worse.[/QUOTE]
What? USA is screaming all over the place that they killed Osama, and nobody except them gives much of a shit. Even so,people still want actual evidence that he was killed, and you say they can't release photos because it'd make the US look worse? That's fucking stupid.Releasing the evidence and showing everyone that they actually killed him would make USA look even better.
[editline]4th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Noth;29614398]If he wasn't dead, wouldn't he have put out another video by now?
And that's not the kind of thing the US can cover up, they're not the first to get it[/QUOTE]
And if he is alive why would he release a video? He's a smart man, and because of that he can see that if everyone thinks he's dead he can do his things without much of a worry that he'll be looked for as much as before.
[QUOTE=Noth;29614398]If he wasn't dead, wouldn't he have put out another video by now?
And that's not the kind of thing the US can cover up, they're not the first to get it[/QUOTE]
most conspiracy theorists atm think he's been dead for years of natural causes---most of them thought this during the bush administration.---and that obama's just claiming he's killed him now to win the upcoming election.
but then they also think that the british royalty are actually half-lizard hybrids so
[QUOTE=Noth;29614398]If he wasn't dead, wouldn't he have put out another video by now?
And that's not the kind of thing the US can cover up, they're not the first to get it[/QUOTE]
If everybody thinks he's dead then he has the advantage. Why would he immediately come out and say "BTW GUYS, I'M STILL HERE! DON'T KEEP TRYING TO FIND ME OR ANYTHING!"
[editline]4th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=cqbcat;29614404]It does not matter if they release it. It won't be proof because folk's will just say it's fake, gay, and Photoshopped.[/QUOTE]
Again, that isn't a good reason to not release evidence.
[editline]4th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Pockets;29614453]most conspiracy theorists atm think he's been dead for years of natural causes---most of them thought this during the bush administration.---and that obama's just claiming he's killed him now to win the upcoming election.
but then they also think that the british royalty are actually half-lizard hybrids so[/QUOTE]
Believing in one theory ≠ Believing in all theories ever presented.
[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;29614478]If everybody thinks he's dead then he has the advantage. Why would he immediately come out and say "BTW GUYS, I'M STILL HERE! DON'T KEEP TRYING TO FIND ME OR ANYTHING!"[/QUOTE]
The guy was on a crusade against the US. I'd say his hatred for them would override any strategy
Yeah what a great idea not ot show the photo... Looks like an episode of 24 but less clever
[QUOTE=Noth;29614509]The guy was on a crusade against the US. I'd say his hatred for them would override any strategy[/QUOTE]
Bullshit, he isn't a retard. What the fuck do you call being in hiding for 10 years? That isn't strategic?
[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;29614582]Bullshit, he isn't a retard. What the fuck do you call being in hiding for 10 years? That isn't strategic?[/QUOTE]
No, That's called being a pussy
[QUOTE=Noth;29614590]No, That's called being a pussy[/QUOTE]
So according to you he should have waltzed into the US with a bomb strapped to him, all because his hatred outweighs his common sense?
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;29613846]I really don't care much about the photos, the fact that Osama hasn't made a video saying he's alive is enough for me.
Even if they are released the conspiracy nuts will just scream "FAKE".[/QUOTE]
Thats not the point... The conspiracy theorists believe that Osama is a member of the CIA,
and his "character" has been killed because of politicial aims.
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;29614004]And if the photos are released, would you accept them as evidence or just call them fake?
Releasing them would not change the conspiracy nut's minds and probably just provoke extremists even more.
Even if they still had the body and showed it the conspiracy nuts would just say that it's a doppelganger.[/QUOTE]
Still no reason not to release them.
When I heard they killed Osama I believed them, and was waiting for proof. They said they're debating if they should release the photos or not, and I started to doubt them, believing that they're delaying it so they could fake photos. And now they say they won't release the photos, I now believe this is Obama's try to gain popularity. I mean there's no goddamn reason to not show PROOF of Osama being dead. They would release photos no problem of any dead terrorist/ insurgent and they don't want to release photos of the terrorist they have hunted for 10 damn years?!
[QUOTE=BloodYScar;29614635]Thats not the point... The conspiracy theorists believe that Osama is a member of the CIA,
and his "character" has been killed because of politicial aims.[/QUOTE]
That isn't at all what I believe. Stop blindly grouping people together and pulling facts out of your ass.
[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;29614254]How the fuck am I supposed to know unless I see them? That's like asking me if I'm gonna throw up my dinner before I know if it's going to agree with me or not.
[editline]4th May 2011[/editline]
We just went over this with the birth certificate problem. People stopped caring once they finally just released it.[/QUOTE]
No, the birthers just said it was a fake. It shut up Donald Trump, because if he didn't he would be considered crazier than he already is.
[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;29614608]So according to you he should have waltzed into the US with a bomb strapped to him, all because his hatred outweighs his common sense?[/QUOTE]
Alright, lets assume he has a strategic mind?
What's more damaging? Trying to bomb another building, hijack a plane, or any of his older tricks that we're aware of,
OR proving he's alive, making the US population disillusioned with their leader bullshitting them (And less likely to take anything else he says at face value), and giving the US embarrassment in the international community?
[QUOTE=Noth;29614670]Alright, lets assume he has a strategic mind?
What's more damaging? Trying to bomb another building, hijack a plane, or any of his older tricks that we're aware of,
OR proving he's alive, making the US population disillusioned with their leader bullshitting them (And less likely to take anything else he says at face value), and giving the US embarrassment in the international community?[/QUOTE]
OR planning another big terrorist attack, doing at the same time a big morale blow like he did with WTC and proving at the same time that he's still alive and kicking and the government is bullshitting the population?
[QUOTE=Noth;29614670]Alright, lets assume he has a strategic mind?
What's more damaging? Trying to bomb another building, hijack a plane, or any of his older tricks that we're aware of,
OR proving he's alive, making the US population disillusioned with their leader bullshitting them (And less likely to take anything else he says at face value), and giving the US embarrassment in the international community?[/QUOTE]
[sp]the US isn't the only country that would be looking for him[/sp]
The sooner he says he's alive the sooner people with guns look for him
[editline]4th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=5killer;29614661]No, the birthers just said it was a fake. It shut up Donald Trump, because if he didn't he would be considered crazier than he already is.[/QUOTE]
No, it shut most of the birthers up and then Trump went on to say that he wasn't convinced and he wanted his school records.
Are you really THAT uninformed? Trump was one of the people that DIDN'T accept it.
So now you twist reality to fit your view? Interesting...
[QUOTE=5killer;29614661]No, the birthers just said it was a fake. It shut up Donald Trump, because if he didn't he would be considered crazier than he already is.[/QUOTE]
disagreeing. I don't know any "birthers", but all the skeptics I know shut up about it immediately. The only people who didn't shut up about it was the media and conspiracy theory blog editors cause they had nothing better to talk about for a day or two.
As a crazy fringe weirdo, I'm sort of desperate to believe everything that's been reported so far at face value, and so far I've seen two photoshops of a shot up osama that I thought were real until disproven. For the 11 seconds/two minutes I thought those two images were real, I was totally convinced and ready to vote for obama in the next election. Now that they aren't going to release the real photos, There's no way I'm voting for him.
edit: so yeah for all the people of similar mindset i'm sure releasing the photos would help a lot
edit: glenn beck and INFOWARS.COM will still say it's fake but they're both literally payed to say that so I don't know what you expect.
[QUOTE=5killer;29614812]So now you twist reality to fit your view? Interesting...[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Trump-Obama-Wasnt-Good-Enough-to-Get-into-Ivy-Schools-120657869.html[/url]
[url]http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/04/27/trump_to_obama_now_release_your_college_records.html[/url]
Guess I twisted that video to fit my view, right?
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