Measles is coming back in the US thanks to anti-vax bullshit, 2014 is already at a 20-year high with - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Shinycow;44975629]Tabloids just exaggerate, not make things up. That's illegal//[/QUOTE] You just admitted they blow things out of proportion. You just acknowledged your source is shit.

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;44975622] anecdotal evidence[/QUOTE] [b]stop.[/b] [QUOTE=ilikecorn;44975622]So the truth gets on your nerves? Then I suggest you stop posting anecdotal evidence and leave the thread. [editline]2nd June 2014[/editline] No. Ignorant people like you are the problem.[/QUOTE] At least I get my vaccinations. [QUOTE=IceWarrior98;44975625]Yes. I am the problem. I go out each and every day and tell people not to vaccinate. <- Sarcasm. I do what I do and let others do what they do. I'm not saying vaccinations are bad. Just that I haven't been and I'm just fine. If I drop dead some day, then feel free to come to my funeral and say allowed "I told you so". Until then, don't say I'm the problem when I've done nothing to influence anyone in anyway.[/QUOTE] The only reason you're fine right now is because the majority of people got their vaccinations and aren't ignorant. Once more people like you stop getting vaccinations, have fun. And it's just a matter of time until you drop dead anyways. People that aren't smart enough to get a vaccination usually off themselves pretty quickly. [editline]2nd June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Durrsly;44975639]You just admitted they blow things out of proportion. You just acknowledged your source is shit.[/QUOTE] Firstly, I said five of the best sources I could get. Secondly, that doesn't make it any less true. It's just mildly exaggerate to get their point across.

[QUOTE=Shinycow;44975651] The only reason you're fine right now is because the majority of people got their vaccinations and aren't ignorant. Once more people like you stop getting vaccinations, have fun. And it's just a matter of time until you drop dead anyways. People that aren't smart enough to get a vaccination usually off themselves pretty quickly. [/QUOTE] Don't worry. One day you'll drop dead too. We all do.

[QUOTE=IceWarrior98;44975600]I don't understand vaccination. More often than not, [B]the new strain that threatens people is made in a lab and only spreads because it's part of the vaccine[/B].[/QUOTE] No vaccine used today is composed of any live virus content, so no, that's incorrect. The rest of your post is 100% anecdotal evidence, which is as insightful as masturbation as far as science is concerned. Look for the post on page 1 with an embedded clip of Pen & Teller's Bullshit, it is specifically about vaccination and herd immunity and why vaccination is such a big deal. The thinking you are promoting here has killed innocent people. For the love of horse testicles please stop feeding the troll, guys.

[QUOTE=Shinycow;44975651] Firstly, I said five of the best sources I could get. Secondly, that doesn't make it any less true. It's just mildly exaggerate to get their point across.[/QUOTE] The Daily Mail does more than "mildly exaggerate". [video=youtube;r9dqNTTdYKY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9dqNTTdYKY[/video] [editline]2nd June 2014[/editline] So are we actually going to get an actual source? From a credible scientist?

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;44973347]It's these kind of people. [video=youtube;wSruDQHG8YA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSruDQHG8YA[/video] The dispersion factor for even a litre of vinegar when it's boiled off on ground level and when some of the vinegar eventually reaches 10,000+ feet is essentially homeopathic, or virtually untraceable. Never mind the "chemtrail" stupidity. Still not sure how more people getting sick is funny, though.[/QUOTE] Wait... Does this guy think him boiling vinegar is clearing clouds? Or that the clouds are chemicals and he's trying to clear them out by [I]boiling fucking vinegar[/I]?? I've never been more confused or worried in my life by watching a video. Is this real?

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;44975686]No vaccine used today is composed of any live virus content, so no, that's incorrect. The rest of your post is 100% anecdotal evidence, which is as insightful as masturbation as far as science is concerned. Look for the post on page 1 with an embedded clip of Pen & Teller's Bullshit, it is specifically about vaccination and herd immunity and why vaccination is such a big deal. The thinking you are promoting here has killed innocent people. For the love of horse testicles please stop feeding the troll, guys.[/QUOTE] You misunderstand. I am not anti-vaccination. In fact I encourage everyone to do it. I am only saying, simply, that without vaccinations I am doing fine so far.

[QUOTE=Banned?;44975843]Wait... Does this guy think him boiling vinegar is clearing clouds? Or that the clouds are chemicals and he's trying to clear them out by [I]boiling fucking vinegar[/I]?? I've never been more confused or worried in my life by watching a video. Is this real?[/QUOTE] Crazy level 1: Airplane contrails, a phenomenon that has been well-understood for a very long time, are "actually" chemical sprays by the government for mind control/sterilization/genocide/whatever crazy thing magic serum is (not) being dumped into the atmosphere. Google chemtrails for more stupid than you wanted to know existed. Crazy level 2: Vinegar sprayed or otherwise vaporized at mere feet above ground level "quickly dissipates" the "chemtrails". Confirmation bias is in full swing because, as we know, contrails dissipate naturally, but they attribute it to the vinegar. Add magic thinking to paranoia and you have idiots like that. And it's international.

[QUOTE=IceWarrior98;44975918]You misunderstand. I am not anti-vaccination. In fact I encourage everyone to do it. I am only saying, simply, that without vaccinations I am doing fine so far.[/QUOTE] And why do you think that is?

[QUOTE=Eudoxia;44972513]Even if vaccines caused autism, how is that worse than, you know, being dead?[/QUOTE] Because what kind of parent wants their child to become a neck-beard?

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;44976012]Crazy level 1: Airplane contrails, a phenomenon that has been well-understood for a very long time, are "actually" chemical sprays by the government for mind control/sterilization/genocide/whatever crazy thing magic serum is (not) being dumped into the atmosphere. Google chemtrails for more stupid than you wanted to know existed. Crazy level 2: Vinegar sprayed or otherwise vaporized at mere feet above ground level "quickly dissipates" the "chemtrails". Confirmation bias is in full swing because, as we know, contrails dissipate naturally, but they attribute it to the vinegar. Add magic thinking to paranoia and you have idiots like that. And it's international.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/R9IFGxm.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Killuah;44976050]And why do you think that is?[/QUOTE] I don't know. Healthy diet? Exercise? The fact that I stay away from weirdo people? I'm sure there are a ton of variables.

it's their choice how they want to live their lives, and until their children are eighteen, they too are a responsibility of the parent if they don't want to vaccine, then fine, they deal with with whatever they contract.

[QUOTE=Shinycow;44974917]I'd rather be the cause of death of my child then, since the only other option is my child having autism.[/QUOTE] Jesus christ. People would rather have folks like me dead than alive, here's proof of that. [editline]2nd June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Shinycow;44975271]He's a doctor though, hence the title "Dr." Why would you ever want an autistic child over a dead one? Tell me that![/QUOTE] I'm not lovable, my brothers aren't lovable, we're better off just fucking dead.

[QUOTE=Hat-Wearing Man;44972404]^you mean this? [video=youtube;RfdZTZQvuCo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfdZTZQvuCo[/video][/QUOTE] Watch the entire episode of that, a brilliant episode I really miss P&T bullshit I hope they make another one like it in the future

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;44976012]Crazy level 1: Airplane contrails, a phenomenon that has been well-understood for a very long time, are "actually" chemical sprays by the government for mind control/sterilization/genocide/whatever crazy thing magic serum is (not) being dumped into the atmosphere. Google chemtrails for more stupid than you wanted to know existed. Crazy level 2: Vinegar sprayed or otherwise vaporized at mere feet above ground level "quickly dissipates" the "chemtrails". Confirmation bias is in full swing because, as we know, contrails dissipate naturally, but they attribute it to the vinegar. Add magic thinking to paranoia and you have idiots like that. And it's international.[/QUOTE] What the fuuuuuuck. I didn't know this existed. I'm fucking amazed right now. Some people are dumb as hell.

[QUOTE=IceWarrior98;44976301]I don't know. Healthy diet? Exercise? The fact that I stay away from weirdo people? I'm sure there are a ton of variables.[/QUOTE]Just in case you're not another troll... There is a higher chance of you getting sick if others around you are sick. Others around you have a higher chance of getting sick if they are not vaccinated. It's not a difficult concept to understand.

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;44976395]Watch the entire episode of that, a brilliant episode I really miss P&T bullshit I hope they make another one like it in the future[/QUOTE] It's good sometimes, but other times it's just a Libertarian soapbox.

[QUOTE=Mingebox;44976431]It's good sometimes, but other times it's just a Libertarian soapbox.[/QUOTE] So? I think Penn & Teller have pretty good justification for it, they don't know what's best for everyone, so they think everyone should have the ability to choose what's the best for themselves.

This is why i believe air-travel should have all passengers health checked before boarding.. the chances of outbreaks like this with foreign diseases like this would be so low.

[QUOTE=Mingebox;44976431]It's good sometimes, but other times it's just a Libertarian soapbox.[/QUOTE] The show mentions on the very first episode that it is biased to their opinions and I have to agree with them on a lot of things, probably because I am left wing myself but idk I just find it interesting to watch

At least the one who are too stupid to get a vaccination will die so it will just clean up some real stupid people and hopefully not affect the others too much [editline]2nd June 2014[/editline] sorry

[QUOTE=IceWarrior98;44976301]I don't know. Healthy diet? Exercise? The fact that I stay away from weirdo people? I'm sure there are a ton of variables.[/QUOTE] It's mainly because most other people get fucking vaccinated. Go do it. [editline]2nd June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Lackadaisical;44976328]it's their choice how they want to live their lives, and until their children are eighteen, they too are a responsibility of the parent if they don't want to vaccine, then fine, they deal with with whatever they contract.[/QUOTE] No it's not, not at all. Their stupidity puts other people in danger.

Finally it came back! I've been waiting for the sequel for so long!

[QUOTE=Lackadaisical;44976328]it's their choice how they want to live their lives, and until their children are eighteen, they too are a responsibility of the parent if they don't want to vaccine, then fine, they deal with with whatever they contract.[/QUOTE] No, the consequences of the decision to not vaccinate affects the entire community. This is exactly the problem. You can't apply "personal freedom" to disease control. "Personal freedom" in disease control leads to [B]ignoring disease containment[/B] and causing outbreaks by allowing herd immunity to drop well below the level needed to maintain an outbreak-resistant population. Go back to page 1 of this thread and look for the embedded clip of P&T's Bullshit. It explains herd immunity clearly. If that isn't enough, I write an explanatory post immediately below it explaining what herd immunity is and why it's important for a healthy community. So, no. It shouldn't be your choice. This thinking has [B][URL="http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/01/anti-vaccine-parents-caused-californias-lethal-whooping-cough-epidemic/"]killed babies[/URL][/B] that were completely unrelated to the people choosing not to vaccinate.

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