Stanford Swimmer Who Raped Unconscious Woman Gets Six Months in Jail - Polidicks

[QUOTE=codenamecueball;50454233]did you actually read the massive response she wrote/thing she read out? just because you don't remember something doesn't mean it isn't traumatic and has an overall profound impact, jesus wept[/QUOTE] Yeah, she described herself as "irreversibly hurt" for one thing. The jail time still seems appropriate to me, considering the profile of the accused and the severity of the crime. [QUOTE=Headhumpy;50454236]I don't know about you, but if someone took my dress off, stuck their fingers up my vagina, dry humped me, and I didn't remember [i]any of that happening[/i], I'd be far more traumatised than if I did. [editline]4th June 2016[/editline] Like... imagine if you woke up in a hospital one morning with abrasions on your body, blood on your clothes, and a vagina red from having fingers stuffed into it. And you had no idea how you got there. How terrifying is that?[/QUOTE] Yeah, I can only imagine. Not knowing what happened, but to be honest her injuries weren't that significant as far as we are led to believe. So all things considered, seems about right to me. He got a felony charge right, and 3-6 months behind bars, that's pretty fucking bad for like a 20 year old.

[QUOTE=crazzyman228;50452980]Welcome to the "justice" system, where rapists practically get off scot free. I seriously hope the guards leave the shower room, because he's not going to be out swimming all the sperm he's gonna get.[/QUOTE] Post #6? Bit slow for the prison rape jokes, isn't it?

[QUOTE=crazzyman228;50452980]Welcome to the "justice" system, where rapists practically get off scot free. I seriously hope the guards leave the shower room, because he's not going to be out swimming all the sperm he's gonna get.[/QUOTE] Can we stop with this prison rape bullshit? How do you not see how you're contradicting yourself in the most disgusting manner

[QUOTE=JackDestiny;50453851] [quote]“You took away my worth, my privacy, my energy, my time, my safety, my intimacy, my confidence, my own voice, until today.” She added, “I am a human being who has been irreversibly hurt.”[/quote][/QUOTE] I really don't understand how someone can both remember nothing and be so vastly traumatized by something that has--so far as I can see--no long-term physical damage. [quote]In her testimony on Thursday, the victim addressed Turner directly, outlining the many ways the assault and ensuing trial traumatized her and her family.[/quote] Oh. A year+ long trial and a media circus surrounding it. Which yes was caused by the rape in the first place; my point is the victim is likely worse off due to the "pursuit of justice" because it for some fucked up reason takes over a year to handle a cut and dry case, and there's no concept of privacy for court cases. [editline]4th June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Higurashi;50454429]Everything was in his own hands, could've pretty much prevented this entire drama by just not raping her. Must be a horrifying realization for him though, knowing that he screwed his entire life over by doing something that stupid only because he was thinking too much with his dick at that moment.[/QUOTE] [quote]Turner, who had a blood-alcohol level that was twice the legal limit[/quote] Yep, totally his dick talking and not the alcohol. People talk about the rape culture, no one seems to really talk about the party/drinking culture, which is what leads to shit like this in the first place.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;50454445]Post #6? Bit slow for the prison rape jokes, isn't it?[/QUOTE] Not too slow for vengeance posts though!

[QUOTE=DaMastez;50454721]People talk about the rape culture, no one seems to really talk about the party/drinking culture, which is what leads to shit like this in the first place.[/QUOTE] Getting drunk doesn't turn a sane sensible human into a fucking rapist. If that's what alcohol does to some people, then those people are honestly a threat to society and should face the same repercussions regardless of whether they were intoxicated or not.

[QUOTE=DaMastez;50454721]I really don't understand how someone can both remember nothing and be so vastly traumatized by something that has--so far as I can see--no long-term physical damage.[/QUOTE] Imagine it was you. Imagine you got drunk, passed out in an alley and found out later that some drunk dude had come up, stuck his cock in your butt and raped you. Now imagine your family and friends finding that out. You're saying you can't understand why that would be traumatic? Really?

[QUOTE=GunFox;50454333]The PSI, generally written by Probation & Parole, was where the judge pulled the sentence from. Unlike everyone in this thread and the media, the P&P officer sat down and completely mapped out the life of the accused. They then compared their criminal and personal history to the proposed punishment of the prosecution and made a recommendation based on what would be best for the community. Whatever bullshit desire for vengeance people may have is, and should be, irrelevant. The sentencing recommendation in a PSI is all about what accomplishes the objective of community safety best. Long prison sentences often INCREASE the possibility that an offender will reoffend.[/QUOTE] I think if he keeps convincing himself and others that he's not responsible for his actions, he's far more dangerous than normal, simply because he doesn't see wrong in what he did. I think that in itself increases the chances for reoffending. If he was understanding and apologetic, I'd feel more sympathy. But if it's true that he hasn't apologized and keeps using scapegoats to avoid blame, then I'd lock him up for as long as possible, because it means he only looks out for himself and doesn't have regard for others.

[QUOTE=wauterboi;50456179]I think if he keeps convincing himself and others that he's not responsible for his actions, he's far more dangerous than normal, simply because he doesn't see wrong in what he did. I think that in itself increases the chances for reoffending. If he was understanding and apologetic, I'd feel more sympathy. But if it's true that he hasn't apologized and keeps using scapegoats to avoid blame, then I'd lock him up for as long as possible, because it means he only looks out for himself and doesn't have regard for others.[/QUOTE] One of the reasons that p&p officers meet with offenders before writing the PSI is to gauge exactly that. It is a major contributing factor in sentence recommendation.

[QUOTE=DaMastez;50454721]I really don't understand how someone can both remember nothing and be so vastly traumatized by something that has--so far as I can see--no long-term physical damage. Oh. A year+ long trial and a media circus surrounding it. Which yes was caused by the rape in the first place; my point is the victim is likely worse off due to the "pursuit of justice" because it for some fucked up reason takes over a year to handle a cut and dry case, and there's no concept of privacy for court cases. [editline]4th June 2016[/editline] Yep, totally his dick talking and not the alcohol. People talk about the rape culture, no one seems to really talk about the party/drinking culture, which is what leads to shit like this in the first place.[/QUOTE] He was twice the legal limit for driving, which basically means barely past sober. This wasn't a drinking related incident on his part. Re trauma, imaging knowing you'd been assfucked by big bubba. You don't remember it. You feel like you were just a piece of meat for him to use. You don't know if he had aids, herpes, the clap. You don't know it'll never happen again. You also don't know if he came, and if so - did he pull out? Of course you can't get pregnant, but imagine you could just for the example. Worse still, if you did get pregnant you have the choice of termination, or giving birth to the spawn of your attacker. I can't imagine that is a nice decision. Even in accidental pregnancies rather than forced ones, people are often traumatised for years afterwards a termination. Just because someone is blackout drunk doesn't make it in the slightest less bad.

[QUOTE=DaMastez;50454721]I really don't understand how someone can both remember nothing and be so vastly traumatized by something that has--so far as I can see--no long-term physical damage. .[/QUOTE] Fucking hell, roofied victims also don't remember it, guess it must be ok to do that as well? What the fuck kind of reasoning is it that it's ok if they don't remember it.

[QUOTE=DaMastez;50454721]People talk about the rape culture, no one seems to really talk about the party/drinking culture, which is what leads to shit like this in the first place.[/QUOTE] I drink often and never have I felt the need to: - Harrass others, including women - Destroy things - Injure myself - Do stupid shit that might get me or others in trouble A lot of people blame alcohol for these kind of things, then how is it possible the majority of people I know and frequently get drunk with, just turn into more... fun people when drunk, except for going down the "alcohol made me do bad shit" lane?

[QUOTE=shozamar;50455701]Imagine it was you. Imagine you got drunk, passed out in an alley and found out later that some drunk dude had come up, stuck his cock in your butt and raped you. Now imagine your family and friends finding that out. You're saying you can't understand why that would be traumatic? Really?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Flapadar;50458509]Re trauma, imaging knowing you'd been assfucked by big bubba. You don't remember it. You feel like you were just a piece of meat for him to use. You don't know if he had aids, herpes, the clap. You don't know it'll never happen again. You also don't know if he came, and if so - did he pull out? Of course you can't get pregnant, but imagine you could just for the example. Worse still, if you did get pregnant you have the choice of termination, or giving birth to the spawn of your attacker. I can't imagine that is a nice decision. Even in accidental pregnancies rather than forced ones, people are often traumatised for years afterwards a termination. Just because someone is blackout drunk doesn't make it in the slightest less bad.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Arrk;50458521]Fucking hell, roofied victims also don't remember it, guess it must be ok to do that as well? What the fuck kind of reasoning is it that it's ok if they don't remember it.[/QUOTE] It's clear I did a poor job of making my intended point in my post. This entire section was intended to be one part, I guess maybe the quote spitting it was the source of the confusion: [QUOTE=DaMastez;50454721]I really don't understand how someone can both remember nothing and be so vastly traumatized by something that has--so far as I can see--no long-term physical damage. [quote]In her testimony on Thursday, the victim addressed Turner directly, outlining the many ways the assault and ensuing trial traumatized her and her family.[/quote] Oh. A year+ long trial and a media circus surrounding it. Which yes was caused by the rape in the first place; my point is the victim is likely worse off due to the "pursuit of justice" because it for some fucked up reason takes over a year to handle a cut and dry case, and there's no concept of privacy for court cases.[/QUOTE] The point I was trying to make was that the court system did a terrible job of not further harming the victim, not least of which by it taking them over a year combined with the allowance of the media circus.

[url]https://imgur.com/Hc38G9M[/url] Seriously, WTF? How can he find that, even close to being acceptable.

[QUOTE=crazzyman228;50465260][url]https://imgur.com/Hc38G9M[/url] Seriously, WTF? How can he find that, even close to being acceptable.[/QUOTE] I'd like to see him receive 20 mins of action from a lion or bear and see how appropriate he finds that statement afterwards