• More Student Protests - More Violence
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[QUOTE=AngryChairR;26271121]Yes I am saying this. And in response to both above posts; Just get a job? It'd help if you provide some factual points as to why you NEED EMA over a job.[/QUOTE] EMA = college = future job opportunities. [QUOTE=Passerby Silver;26271046]Aha, no. I need that money to buy lunches and bus fair. College is way too far for me to walk (I have to get at least two buses to get there on most days). By the end of the week I have about a fiver left. I also have loads of friends who live far away, and get a train to college, and without EMA, wouldn't be able to attend college.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=icemaz;26271202]Because it totally makes sense to be in FULL TIME education a college which is generally FAR AWAY from a persons house, and just ditch it for a job.[/QUOTE] Full time education is 12.5 hours a week onwards. You're honestly telling me, that regardless of how many hours - it's unreasonable to get at least a weekend job to support THEIR education? Once again, laziness.
i hate you fucknuts that got ema, none of that shit in my days at 6th form. you cunts.
i didn't get ema because my parents were at that point earning just over the limit
In before "HURR DURR NEW REVOLUTION FREE WARHOL."
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;26271266]Full time education is 12.5 hours a week onwards. You're honestly telling me, that regardless of how many hours - it's unreasonable to get at least a weekend job to support THEIR education? Once again, laziness.[/QUOTE] I don't get EMA, but my college does 9 till 4 everyday with few free periods. I start at 6 and get the morning bus at 7:20. I don't get home till 5:30. I have incredible amounts of work to do at the weekends. Everyone in my college is under the same circumstance as me. If people need that EMA they should get that money.
[QUOTE=icemaz;26271489]I don't get EMA, but my college does 9 till 4 everyday with few free periods. I start at 6 and get the morning bus at 7:20. I don't get home till 5:30. I have incredible amounts of work to do at the weekends. Everyone in my college is under the same circumstance as me. If people need that EMA they should get that money.[/QUOTE] Incredible amounts of work? No. Unless you're doing BTEC courses you're going to have exams and some coursework. That means you'll have maybe an essay a week. It takes an hour or two, and you have plenty oftime to do that. You have so much time for a job yet you still refuse to get one.
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;26271554]Incredible amounts of work? No. Unless you're doing BTEC courses you're going to have exams and some coursework. That means you'll have maybe an essay a week. It takes an hour or two, and you have plenty oftime to do that. You have so much time for a job yet you still refuse to get one.[/QUOTE] People don't refuse to get jobs, and people actually do have a social life too, and I do get lots of work.
EMA is a flawed system anyway. Especially when it comes to separated parents - if one earns under the limit and the other one's making an absolute bomb, you still get the full allowance.
Whoever argues that this is silly because Americans pay more is missing the point. It's about principal, and it's about what's always been. Prices have always been lower in the UK (for obvious reasons including cost of living and value of currency), and to change it so drastically would be ridiculous. You can't just say, "because X is more expensive than Y I don't see why people are complaining about a price increase." Just because cars in Brazil cost double the price of the equivalent car in the United States doesn't mean car makers should increase the cost of cars in the US. It's on a country by country basis.
So what are these protests about?
[QUOTE=Mingebox;26271759]So what are these protests about?[/QUOTE] Raising of Tuition fees.
EMA in most cases is stupid, [I]most[/I] people don't NEED the EMA. However, we must accept that some people do, and with investigation should receive it. To me, it is just spare money.
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;26270858]I'm at college on my second year and have had a saturday job for that time, two months ago I decided I wanted more hours so I GOT OFF MY ARSE and went looking for jobs. I found 3 places offering 17 hours and accepted one that suited me. There's plenty of jobs going, you're just bone idol.[/QUOTE] There aren't jobs for everyone. You found 3 places offering 17 hours but I bet there weren't just 3 people looking for jobs. Also it's bone idle.
Apparently Camerons day was slightly affected by this.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;26268953]Because of people like me who's parents earn just over that figure and will have great difficulties in funding myself for university, especially with so few jobs around.[/QUOTE] Even with a job it is hard to afford university, tuition and materials keep going up.
[QUOTE=|FlapJack|;26271668]EMA is a flawed system anyway. Especially when it comes to separated parents - if one earns under the limit and the other one's making an absolute bomb, you still get the full allowance.[/QUOTE] yeah this is very true my friend went to a private school in central london, and a girl in her year got ema because her parents are divorce and her mother didn't work at all, but was being given loads on money by her father
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;26271955]Apparently Camerons day was slightly affected by this.[/QUOTE]What, did his butler shit in his swan roll in protest?
This wouldn't happen in america because the americans are fat. [highlight](User was banned for this post (""americans are fat derp"" - UberMensch))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=|FlapJack|;26270836]EMA is useless. You'd be better off learning a programming language and making some money that way.[/QUOTE] Because we all want to program.
To earn money from programming you would need to learn ATLEAST a year(if you're like super-fast learner) 2 for normal people. And even then it's not guaranteed profit.
1 1/2 years for me to teach myself HTML, CSS, Javasript and PHP. I'm glad I started early!
[QUOTE=Fatal-Error;26272287]1 1/2 years for me to teach myself HTML, CSS, Javasript and PHP. I'm glad I started early![/QUOTE] Most people would not want to learn that, especially to pay for education.
To be honest I'm not sure whether its worth persueing web design at university, I believe most jobs in the field are portfolio based.
[QUOTE=Fatal-Error;26273093]To be honest I'm not sure whether its worth persueing web design at university, I believe most jobs in the field are portfolio based.[/QUOTE] Depends if you want to work for your local shithole or a big decent company that will pay well.
Making budget cuts on Education. The United States did that and look at what happened.
Why the fuck do they protest anyway? More packs of lefties wanna be hippies or some shit?
I was caught in the middle of one of the protests while on the bus. It seemed alright until some bald 30 year old threw a brick through a window and was chased down by about 10 riot police.
Lol screw you guys I get £30 EMA a week and work 12 hours a week for £6.50 and that's £432 a month and my parents aren't exactly poor. The job I got was from my brother as he used to be the manager of the store before he moved to somewhere else for a job. I have my own pad I don't even pay for, i have it because my parents foster children so they gave it too me so i could have some peace. Yet I have a friend who doesn't even get EMA and he is a lot poorer than me I tell a lot of people that i do not deserve EMA but yet I'm still entitled to get it. He cant even get a job in my area that doesn't involve working at somewhere like mcdonalds. The current EMA scheme is flawed because there are many loopholes around it that many people are not aware of and the people who are aware of it exploit it, like me. I agree with supporting the less fortunate but I don't think the current scheme of EMA works. There are many students that goto college just for the benefit of EMA. Heck pretty much all my college if they miss one lesson and cant get their EMA they don't even bother going to college and their attendance is around 60% to 70% its ridiculous and their reasoning is that they cant get their EMA so why bother. My college is one of the best in country too and if the students at my college are deterred from going to college simply because of missing out on benefits I think the best thing to do is to abolish it. But the problem afterwards is how are we going to support the less fortunate better than EMA?
I think people would stop complaining if they gave the £30 a week to the parents instead of the child, like child benefits.
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