In my opinion, you should go to university to get a good job in the future. If this job/course doesn't cover the cost of going to university, why bother going? If people stopped going "for the experience" and got apprenticeships, in which they could earn more money quicker than doing some crappy degree, we wouldn't have these problems.
[QUOTE=skifer;26274238]Lol screw you guys I get £30 EMA a week and work 12 hours a week for £6.50 and that's £432 a month and my parents aren't exactly poor. The job I got was from my brother as he used to be the manager of the store before he moved to somewhere else for a job. I have my own pad I don't even pay for, i have it because my parents foster children so they gave it too me so i could have some peace. Yet I have a friend who doesn't even get EMA and he is a lot poorer than me I tell a lot of people that i do not deserve EMA but yet I'm still entitled to get it. He cant even get a job in my area that doesn't involve working at somewhere like mcdonalds.
The current EMA scheme is flawed because there are many loopholes around it that many people are not aware of and the people who are aware of it exploit it, like me. I agree with supporting the less fortunate but I don't think the current scheme of EMA works. There are many students that goto college just for the benefit of EMA. Heck pretty much all my college if they miss one lesson and cant get their EMA they don't even bother going to college and their attendance is around 60% to 70% its ridiculous and their reasoning is that they cant get their EMA so why bother. My college is one of the best in country too and if the students at my college are deterred from going to college simply because of missing out on benefits I think the best thing to do is to abolish it.
But the problem afterwards is how are we going to support the less fortunate better than EMA?[/QUOTE]
My College is the best in the country and we don't have that problem. That may be because it's cambridge, but the other colleges around Cambridge don't have this problem.
I think your example of your friend is silly, why doesn't he apply for EMA then?
why do they make schools and college so expensive anyway
Hey foreigns don't set up business in the UK there will be no skilled workers
I seemed to remember hearing that if it's a medical course (paramedic for example) then the NHS pay for it, so fees don't affect you
[QUOTE=icemaz;26274680]My College is the best in the country and we don't have that problem. That may be because it's cambridge, but the other colleges around Cambridge don't have this problem.
I think your example of your friend is silly, why doesn't he apply for EMA then?[/QUOTE]
Because he isnt entitled to EMA despite his divorced parents and living in a terraced house.
[QUOTE=Mort and Charon;26274623]In my opinion, you should go to university to get a good job in the future. If this job/course doesn't cover the cost of going to university, why bother going? If people stopped going "for the experience" and got apprenticeships, in which they could earn more money quicker than doing some crappy degree, we wouldn't have these problems.[/QUOTE]
I want to go to university because I have a genuine interest in the stuff I learn, what's your opinion on that?
I don't know if this is news to anyone, but the police are (illegally?) kettling the protesters and holding them there in the cold, without toilets or food.
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I mean, I think that's pretty illiberal
I am currently at university and walked past the Westminster protest today, I'm obviously against the cuts but the way I saw people act completely ruined the protest. Most were just there to fuck shit up and didn't even know what sort of cuts were going to take place, a waste of potential IMO
[QUOTE=mrfrogurt;26276313]I am currently at university and walked past the Westminster protest today, I'm obviously against the cuts but the way I saw people act completely ruined the protest. Most were just there to fuck shit up and didn't even know what sort of cuts were going to take place, a waste of potential IMO[/QUOTE]
If a government is not willing to listen to people opinions and how much they care about their countries future education being in the hands of a the rich elite. Then the violence is easily justified higher education should be something that should be free for all, but hard to get into.
When you vote for a party they are there to REPRESENT you not LIE to you. In the case of the Lib dems I loved their policies but yet they have accepted the conservatives policies like a trojan horse without challenge. In that case i would be pissed off, its the future of the country for gods sakes.
If anyone watched the news, Conrad lives on my road and he goes to my old school. Was impressed by his eloquence on the Box.
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Also, These protests are completely justified in my opinion, I'm surprised that students are the first to realize what's going on with the government. And to everyone saying EMA is useless, a very good friend of mine is at surrey doing a course in animation and computer programming. He wouldn't be there if it wasn't for EMA as he couldn't afford the lunches or travel due to his parents earning just over 5 grand. Now tell me its fair that someone else in his situation should be forced to keep working at that level (his parents) as he wasn't given the opportunity to take A levels and do a degree so that he would be able to earn a decent salary and in turn be able to support those who are dear to him, his family for instance, his dad who wont have a pension due to the fantastic way in which pension schemes work.
[QUOTE=skifer;26276671]If a government is not willing to listen to people opinions and how much they care about their countries future education being in the hands of a the rich elite. Then the violence is easily justified higher education should be something that should be free for all, but hard to get into.
When you vote for a party they are there to REPRESENT you not LIE to you. In the case of the Lib dems I loved their policies but yet they have accepted the conservatives policies like a trojan horse without challenge. In that case i would be pissed off, its the future of the country for gods sakes.[/QUOTE]
What are you preaching about you mad headcase
If they want to go to college they need money
if they want money they can get a job
if they get a job they can go to college
Why is that so hard to understand?
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;26277728]What are you preaching about you mad headcase
If they want to go to college they need money
if they want money they can get a job
if they get a job they can go to college
Why is that so hard to understand?[/QUOTE]
Because it's not affordable in the slightest and not everyone has a rich dad to pay their way through business school.
Have you tried getting a job yet? Its alot harder than your making out.
Looks like we've started learning from the French.
Good.
[QUOTE=Stopper;26269818]You're a moron.
The cost of life in the US is not the same as in the UK.[/QUOTE]
Yep, 1 American for everyone 10 UK persons.
:P
They've planned more protests for next tuesday
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This is such a load of horseshit, no idea what to do now when going to University the year after next :( So worried about all this crap, my family isn't exactly poor but no way in hell are they going to pay for the most of this, I'll need to take out a loan and at that point you have to factor in if it's more cost effective to go through university and get a job or just get a job :(.
Plus jobs are so bloddy hard to come by as of now anyway.
Someone in my year got arrested for vandalising a police van :v:
[QUOTE=General_Xing;26269580]The rates are higher in America.
Learn that not everything is free.[/QUOTE]
US also seems to have more uneducated hicks, I wonder if there is a correlation?
[QUOTE=matt.ant;26289104]They've planned more protests for next tuesday
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Fuck the... what?
Damn such a cliffhanger.
I left university because i feared that my debt in years to come will be ridiculous now im struggling to find a job...this is justified!
I was in the protest in Canterbury, about 200 students marched and the only violence was the Police skull-cracking when we ran at them to put the shit up them.
Sadly these protests won't solve shit.
Seriously why did every single retard vote Conservative to begin with, it's kinda your fault for voting them in, Conservative have only ever given a shit about the rich, they don't care about anyone else, that's always how it's always been, seriously.
As a rich pig-dog American, I support these protests.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;26322111]Fuck the... what?
Damn such a cliffhanger.[/QUOTE]
I don't know but to the left of him it looks like it says, "Eggs Cleggs motherfucking Cameron"
[QUOTE=Drax-Quin;26322887]Sadly these protests won't solve shit.
Seriously why did every single retard vote Conservative to begin with, it's kinda your fault for voting them in, Conservative have only ever given a shit about the rich, they don't care about anyone else, that's always how it's always been, seriously.[/QUOTE]
I actually think the majority vote was for a Lib/lab coalition, a lot of people who voted liberal were shocked when Clegg went with Cameron instead.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;26268953]Because of people like me who's parents earn just over that figure and will have great difficulties in funding myself for university, especially with so few jobs around.[/QUOTE]
Even those who earn a fair bit over £23,000 often can't afford the new prices, it's literally only the rich who are able to throw that kind of money into tuition fees, those in the middle-higher income bracket are stuck.
[QUOTE=strayebyrd;26330077]I actually think the majority vote was for a Lib/lab coalition, a lot of people who voted liberal were shocked when Clegg went with Cameron instead.[/QUOTE]
no it wasn't
the conservatives got more votes than labour
Labour voters voted Lib Dem just to get rid of Gordon Brown and Chums, but not all of them. In doing so the usual Labour vote got spilled over the usually small Lib Dem numbers and it all came out a bit indecisive. Then the smaller parties had to side with Labour or the Tories to give them enough support to run the government. The tiny ones with just a couple of seats scattered around, mostly Northern Ireland sided pretty quickly but it came down to who the liberals sided with would get into power, and because Nick Clegg was off his tits or something he sided with the Conservatives despite their policies being completely conflicting in a ton more places than they disagreed with Labour's ones.
One of those policies was education. Hence the protests.
The moral of the story is that Conservatives are a bunch of rich fuckers out to please the landed gentry (See the countless news stories in which Tory MPs have said stuff about poor people, gay people and those pesky younguns which you'd expect more from a Dickins villain) and Nick Clegg is a spineless moron.
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