Ouya developer to look for funding outside of Kickstarter - Polidicks

What I would fund on Kickstarter: Already established businesses, organizations or establishments looking for more funding, for instance an animal sanctuary. Alternatively other well documented, safe investments into something like a documentary for lobbying ideas I support; unpartisan, realistic, well-executed. What I would not fund on Kickstarter: Anything like OUYA: misleading, not well documented, unrealistic ideas or products by dreamers or scammers or even just most ideas in general by mysterious, self-proclaimed omnipotent people or businesses.

[QUOTE=Mooe94;36795205]You are stupid if you honestly believe that Kickstarter is "ruined" because of certain projects being backed there. That makes no sense; the core idea of Kickstarter is to give investors the ability to support developers and creators to help with their project. It doesn't matter if it's a documentary about ponies or a game about watering plants; it's a great fucking idea regardless.[/QUOTE] I don't think it's that, I think it's just a couple of idiots dragging a stick in the mud with their crowdsourced project making the entire thing look bad.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;36795222]I don't think it's that, I think it's just a couple of idiots dragging a stick in the mud with their crowdsourced project making the entire thing look bad.[/QUOTE] Yeah and what mac338 mentioned; serious, well-documented and realistic projects should be the highlight. Double Fine's Adventure Game is a prime example of a good Kickstarter project

[QUOTE=Mooe94;36795236]Yeah and what mac338 mentioned; serious, well-documented and realistic projects should be the highlight.[/QUOTE] I agree. I still don't just like the entire concept. I'll let everyone else fund it and if it's something I'm interested in I'll buy it when it comes out. If it comes out.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;36795256]I agree. I still don't just like the entire concept. I'll let everyone else fund it and if it's something I'm interested in I'll buy it when it comes out. If it comes out.[/QUOTE] Of course. But if you happen to find a project that you are really interested in and that you really want to fund - it's great that Kickstarter exists because you can (most of the time) directly connect with the developers/creators of the project and ultimately feel good about yourself because you sponsored a project you like. But yeah, however, there's always the possibility that the project will be a huge flop. That's why it's good to document every step taken in the project so the investors can see what went wrong, etc

[QUOTE=Protocol7;36794886]This is why I have yet to actually fund anything on Kickstarter.[/QUOTE] pretty much why I stay the fuck out of that site seriously, none of this console sounds good. Only if it was an upgradable, PC combinable one that actually was rather useful.

[QUOTE=Mooe94;36795272]Of course. But if you happen to find a project that you are really interested in and that you really want to fund - it's great that Kickstarter exists because you can (most of the time) directly connect with the developers/creators of the project.[/QUOTE] Well yeah. I wanted to fund the Pebble watch but as I was looking to buy a car during that time, I didn't really have a few hundred to throw around. But the Pebble is a good example of crowdsourcing done right - it was a brilliant idea with a large following [QUOTE=J!NX;36795275]pretty much why I stay the fuck out of that site seriously, none of this console sounds good. Only if it was an upgradable, PC combinable one that actually was rather useful.[/QUOTE] Not to mention with how Android hardware gets an upgrade every year, this console would be going in the trash once the Tegra 4 comes out boasting way more features. Seriously, the jump from Tegra 2 to Tegra 3 was so huge, I wanted to sell my tablet and get the Nexus 7 for the new hardware.

This whole idea seems dumb anyway, why would i pay money for a console when my computer can already do everything but much better and i'd rather get an xbox that'll have actual games rather than ported android games/minecraft.

$4 million is nothing? The Raspberry pi was developed with alot less.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;36795324]Well yeah. I wanted to fund the Pebble watch but as I was looking to buy a car during that time, I didn't really have a few hundred to throw around. But the Pebble is a good example of crowdsourcing done right - it was a brilliant idea with a large following Not to mention with how Android hardware gets an upgrade every year, this console would be going in the trash once the Tegra 4 comes out boasting way more features. Seriously, the jump from Tegra 2 to Tegra 3 was so huge, I wanted to sell my tablet and get the Nexus 7 for the new hardware.[/QUOTE] I still need to upgrade my android, I'm still on the original motorola android. If they wanted to do something unique they would take the dreamcast in high respects and do something completely different. But this isn't unique, at all, [I]it plays shitty free to play android games, what kind of [U]joke [/U]is that?[/I] Are the supporters really that blind?

[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;36795777]$4 million is nothing? The Raspberry pi was developed with alot less.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_mDuJuvZjI[/media] raspberry pi running quake 3. also if you want something else that's in the same league. [url]http://gooseberry.atspace.co.uk/[/url] and there a more like this in development with working prototypes. Another thing, the last time I gave something to a kickstarter project they were upfront in wanting all their money be funded via kickstarter (and their own pockets).

This entire project seems stupid to me. They basically want a console that can do what the PC can do for videogames. In which case: why not just use a PC?

[QUOTE=J!NX;36796303]I still need to upgrade my android, I'm still on the original motorola android. If they wanted to do something unique they would take the dreamcast in high respects and do something completely different. But this isn't unique, at all, [I]it plays shitty free to play android games, what kind of [U]joke [/U]is that?[/I] Are the supporters really that blind?[/QUOTE] Uhhh, the console is based on Android, but it doesn't only pay Android games... this would be like saying "The ps2 is a piece of shit, all it can do is play ps1 games" while it was in the design stage. There's supposed to be an ouya game store, which will have games made for it. There's plenty of reasons to be skeptical about this without coming up with stupid bullshit.

As I've said earlier, I'd buy this only to use it as XBMC device (my RPi has proven quite slow at this task). OUYA has significantly better HW from what I can see and 100$ is nothing for that kind of device. I doubt many people brought their RPi for educational purposes. (Gaming in the case of OUYA). RPi cut wherever possible, and given that they were an EDUCATIONAL charity, they got discounts on the HW (I cant find exact percent) I jsut hope the comapny wount go Amazon route with under-pricing Kindle and making money off of purchases. Id feel bad about not supporting them by not buying from their store.

[QUOTE=Elspin;36799992]Uhhh, the console is based on Android, but it doesn't only pay Android games... this would be like saying "The ps2 is a piece of shit, all it can do is play ps1 games" while it was in the design stage. There's supposed to be an ouya game store, which will have games made for it. There's plenty of reasons to be skeptical about this without coming up with stupid bullshit.[/QUOTE]Read this article: [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1197689[/url] It addresses the issue of developing games for the platform, amongst other things.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;36800091]Read this article: [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1197689[/url] It addresses the issue of developing games for the platform, amongst other things.[/QUOTE] I've read that article before it was posted on facepunch, and it makes a lot of good points. Nowhere in my post did I say there weren't plenty of problems - just that his reasoning was nonsense. As for the idea that it would be hard to develop for this - you'd have to be high to think that. Even if the SDK was just android with libraries to interact with the controller I could probably port the game I'm working on in about 3 hours. Any programmer who isn't a gibbering moron will have separated the input libraries from the main game code, and replacing them would be easy. I mean this obviously isn't true for all games, some games are based on gestures that wouldn't make sense on a controller but that's not really the kind of games you'd play on a TV anyways.

[QUOTE=MrEndangered;36794094]I seriously fail to comprehend how they can set a price not knowing what the costs are. It boggles my mind. This has seriously made kickstarter projects look like a fucking joke.[/QUOTE] I thought most of them already were? Just the other day I saw a game on kickstarter made in RPG Maker with plagiarised content all over achieving funding at 40,000 dollars.

[QUOTE=Steven :D;36794305][url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/supermotherload/super-motherload[/url] This is an example of a kickstarter that should see the light of day, they already have alot done, compared to one OUYA prototype.[/QUOTE] Actually, I think I will help with this one. This is actually pretty damn cool. I played the living hell out of the original, and its not like they are trying to fuck everyone for tons of money, 50k really isn't much.

[QUOTE=prooboo;36798216]This entire project seems stupid to me. They basically want a console that can do what the PC can do for videogames. In which case: why not just use a PC?[/QUOTE] A pc is not $99 I guess.

[QUOTE=Jetblack357;36802310]Actually, I think I will help with this one. This is actually pretty damn cool. I played the living hell out of the original, and its not like they are trying to fuck everyone for tons of money, 50k really isn't much.[/QUOTE] Aw man I'm kind of bummed this is a kick starter. I've been looking forward to Super Motherload for years and there seems to be a good chance it won't be funded.

[QUOTE=Lazor;36803492]Aw man I'm kind of bummed this is a kick starter. I've been looking forward to Super Motherload for years and there seems to be a good chance it won't be funded.[/QUOTE] As am I, but still, if it does, its gonna be a hell of a lot of fun, and most likely they'll release something even if they can't get some cash from kickstarter.

also a console that's hackable has been done before. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PYYg67XKK0&feature=related[/media]