[QUOTE=Stormcharger;37456352]Yea noDachi was meaning that people dont really know what it means fully like the mao themed hipster bars cause mao wasnt really a nice guy either[/QUOTE]
tell me more about these mao hipster bars
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;37458536]Consider how much our culture is steeped in WWII era material. Movies, games, books, tv shows, we get forcefed a ton of that stuff since we're born.
Now consider a non Western culture, who didn't really have much to do with WWII, how much of that stuff do they see?
There are people in Japan who don't know about the atrocities the Japanese committed in WWII simply because they were not taught about it while they were growing up. You don't just automatically know something, no matter how important it might be to other people in the world.[/QUOTE]
They knew enough for the cultural nickname "Hitler" for someone annoyingly strict came around to them.
Oh Hitler, now that we have another reminder of him in the form of a message board thread, what a crazy bastard.
[quote]Shah insisted that until the store opened he did not know who Adolf Hitler was and that Hitler was a nickname given to the grandfather of his store partner because "he was very strict".[/quote]
I'm inclined to say "Liar, liar, pants incinerating".
This is out of mein kampfort zone.
Yeah, considering the Swaztica in the logo I think he knew what he was doing.
Also, this is an amazing record. Godwin's Law coming into effect during the first post.
[QUOTE=D3TBS;37458585]That means everybody who was involved in the launch of this brand also didn't know about Hitler. Designers, lawyers, accountants, workers, and so on[/QUOTE]
If I'm a designer and you're willing to pay me for a Hitler logo, you're getting a Hitler logo. Same with all the rest, they do what they're paid to do. If that logo is unusable and comes back to bite you on the ass that's your problem.
There was some sort of weird fascination with Hitler that had been stirring up in India for awhile, especially with the youth. I believe a bollywood movie about him was in the makes as well, almost glorifying him and makin some sort of love story about him? I don't recall the details though, or even if it's still in production.
My guess is no.
If the shop owner had named his shop "King George VI", and festooned the sign with a logo of a British soldier skull-fucking a high-caste Indian, he would have been murdered along with his whole family, and the entire village he was born in. But "Hitler", no problem.
The mobs would have killed the logo designer, too.
[QUOTE=Rue Morgue;37460679]If the shop owner had named his shop "King George VI", and festooned the sign with a logo of a British soldier skull-fucking a high-caste Indian, he would have been murdered along with his whole family, and the entire village he was born in. But "Hitler", no problem.
The mobs would have killed the logo designer, too.[/QUOTE]
*the penny just dropped, that other countries don't give a shit about your historical problems*
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;37456268]I had no idea there were Jews in India.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]As the Jewish genealogical journal Avotaynu recently observed in an article on one Indian Jewish group, "The Bene Israel flourished for 2,400 years in a tolerant land that has never known anti-Semitism, and were successful in all aspects of the socio-economic and cultural life of the people of the region."[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.forbes.com/2007/08/05/india-jews-antisemitism-oped-cx_gw_0813jews.html[/url]
[url]http://clarionjournal.typepad.com/clarion_journal_of_spirit/2007/07/the-jews-of-ind.html[/url]
India was a much better place back then. Now it's riddled with corruption and bigotry, though new generation is shedding away that garb.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;37460153]If I'm a designer and you're willing to pay me for a Hitler logo, you're getting a Hitler logo. Same with all the rest, they do what they're paid to do. If that logo is unusable and comes back to bite you on the ass that's your problem.[/QUOTE]
Yeah sure, but if a guy comes to your office and says "I want a logo for my new brand, it's called [B]HITLER[/B]." you would ask right away "You know that's kind of inappropriate, right?"
Here in the US, yeah. But if I'm working in a country where WWII doesn't mark the moment in history where my country became a superpower? No, just pay me.
Look at it this way, I've had years of education. Still, I'm willing to bet the most uneducated person in India knows more about the politics of Kashmir than I do.
why would you even do that
[QUOTE=D3TBS;37461836]Yeah sure, but if a guy comes to your office and says "I want a logo for my new brand, it's called [B]HITLER[/B]." you would ask right away "You know that's kind of inappropriate, right?"[/QUOTE]
A lot of Indians think Hitler was a pretty cool guy since he championed Aryans thinking it was [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Aryan_peoples]their type of Aryan[/url].
"It was only when the store opened I learnt Hitler had killed six million people."
This dude is an awesome troll.
[QUOTE=IdiotStorm;37458318]
I know India isn't exactly known for its education but come the fuck on[/QUOTE]
The most universities & 2nd highest student population in the world, they're pretty well educated.
Once the guy realizes that nobody is shopping at his store (since I doubt he's selling actual nazi paraphernalia even skin heads will find no joy shopping here) he will pay to change the name himself or go out of business. I admit the guy has balls to think anyone would actually pay to change it though...
[QUOTE=Wig Wam;37462248]The most universities & 2nd highest student population in the world, they're pretty well educated.[/QUOTE]
Is that over all, or compared to other countries in ratio of population?
[editline]29th August 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=quietcanary;37462249]Once the guy realizes that nobody is shopping at his store (since I doubt he's selling actual nazi paraphernalia even skin heads will find no joy shopping here) he will pay to change the name himself or go out of business. I admit the guy has balls to think anyone would actually pay to change it though...[/QUOTE]
God, how many times do I have to say it
[B]Many Indians think Hitler was an okay guy.[/B]
[QUOTE=IdiotStorm;37458318]how do you not know who Adolf Hitler is
I know India isn't exactly known for its education but come the fuck on[/QUOTE]
Without googling it, who is Saloth Sar?
I answered your previous question, by the way.
[QUOTE]God, how many times do I have to say it
[B]Many Indians think Hitler was an okay guy.[/B][/QUOTE]
None the less im sure the profits of the store have been badly impacted yes? If people where as upset as the article says they where wouldnt word have gotten round the local populace? Personnely if my neighbor was a offended at a store name I might give it a second thought about shopping there even givin I liked the stores merchandise and had some sort of intrest in the theme of the store name. Admit to not reading through the middle sections of the threa, my bad bro.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;37460837]*the penny just dropped, that other countries don't give a shit about your historical problems*[/QUOTE]
And, at high noon each day the Sun appears directly overhead.
[QUOTE=quietcanary;37462489]None the less im sure the profits of the store have been badly impacted yes? If people where as upset as the article says they where wouldnt word have gotten round the local populace? Personnely if my neighbor was a offended at a store name I might give it a second thought about shopping there even givin I liked the stores merchandise and had some sort of intrest in the theme of the store name. Admit to not reading through the middle sections of the threa, my bad bro.[/QUOTE]
From what I understand in the article, only India's minority Jewish population is upset.
I'm sure the local populace doesn't care or is offended due to that either. Hindu Indians can be very nationalistic. Just look at what they do to the small numbers of muslims in their country.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;37462509]
I'm sure the local populace doesn't care or is offended due to that either. Hindu Indians can be very nationalistic. Just look at what they do to the small numbers of muslims in their country.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, going out protesting in India about Myanmar's treatment of fellow Muslims and setting ablaze vehicles and vandalizing monuments dedicated to the Armed persons who got martyred bode of very well of minority Muslims.
Empathizing with illegal Muslim Bangladeshi immigrants (changing Assam's [North Eastern state] demography, clashes with indigenous Bodo people due to less accommodating nature of these illegal Muslim immigrant) while all the way destroying public property and blackmailing that if Illegal immigrants are not treated well then be ready to face third wave of Muslim youth radicalization.
As a consequence people from North East who were working in west and south India fled back to their home because some of them became victim of Muslim rage and were thrown out of moving trains, stabbed to death.
Releasing fatwa against Salman Rushdie and essentially banning him from entering the country.
It's funny how you see that the entire fault lies with majority. India would not have been a democratic nation without majority of Hindus giving their assent on that.
Just read the history of what happened to Hindus and Christians in pakistan (compare their population then and now) while Muslims multiplied in India in numbers.
It's another thing that corruption is taking a toll here now.
It doesn't change the fact that the Muslim minorities in India are treated horribly.
[QUOTE=Chrille;37456256]India is a weird place.[/QUOTE]
Japan is weirder.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;37469314]It doesn't change the fact that the Muslim majorities in India are treated horribly.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, dude. Very nice. Keep your opinion as a fact.
[QUOTE=fritzel;37474447]Yeah, dude. Very nice. Keep your opinion as a fact.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2012/08/muslims-mumbai[/url]
[quote]The demonstrators had gathered on Saturday to voice their opposition to violence against Muslim settlers in India’s north-eastern state of Assam, which first erupted last month and has left 400,000 people displaced. They were also protesting against attacks that have been made against Rohingyas and other Muslims in Myanmar since June.
[...]
Mumbai, India’s commercial hub and home to 12.5m people (by a conservative count), was plagued by flare-ups between its Hindu and Muslim communities during the late 1980s and 1990s, when the city was still officially called Bombay. Those tensions culminated in almost a straight month of riots starting in December 1992. Muslims were targeted by Hindu-nationalist mobs and hundreds were killed. A co-ordinated series of bomb attacks three months later killed 200 Hindus.
[...]
Yet many Mumbaikars see last weekend’s violence as an anomaly—a brief echo of their city’s turbulent past rather than a return to it. The past two decades have not been marred by any large-scale “communal” riots. This seemed especially remarkable at the time of rioting and pogroms in the neighbouring state of Gujarat in 2002, when perhaps 2,000 people, most of them Muslims, were killed. “There are tensions—it’s not like everyone is living happily ever after,” says Meena Menon, an Indian journalist and author of “Riots and After in Mumbai”, a study of communal violence in the city. “But after 1993 we have not seen…that kind of bloodbath again.” Ms Menon says the high death tolls from 20 years ago have discouraged that kind of rioting ever since.
[...]
The lines between the city’s Hindus and Muslims persist—but today they are drawn rather more subtly. Muslim Mumbaikars, from ordinary folk to Bollywood actors, say they struggle to find accommodation in the good parts of town, on account of their religion. When a landlord does agree to rent them a space, an apartment block’s powerful “housing society” of existing occupants still has to sign them off. A room of one’s own is hard enough to find in Mumbai, a megacity packed into an overcrowded peninsula. The city’s median living space is only of 4.5 square metres (48 square feet) per person, compared with 34 square metres in Shanghai.[/quote]
I hope that you read up on this matter from multiple sources if you are really serious.
I'll keep it in layman terms.
This was the result of supposedly peaceful protest opposing the violence against illegal Bangladeshi Muslim settlers in India’s north-eastern state of Assam.
[IMG]http://im.firstpost.com/wp-content/image2png.php?src=/2012/08/Mumbai-protest-380.gif&widthIgnore=300&heightIgnore=225&quality=70&mode=fixed&form=jpg&width=750&height=563[/IMG]
[IMG]http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/photo/15449657.cms[/IMG]
Desecration of soldier's monument who sacrificed their life protecting the nation from outsider adversary.
[IMG]https://p.twimg.com/A0FLrELCQAArUGg.jpg[/IMG]
Waving Islamic flag after the ensuing bout of violence, burning vehicles and disturbing peace.
[IMG]http://static.indianexpress.com/pic/uploadedImages/bigImages/B_Id_308336_violence.jpg[/IMG]
And read about the precursor to the Gujarat riots. A train full of senior citizens, children, women and man coming back from pilgrimage was set ablaze on fire by Muslims in a planned attack. Their bodies turned charred black. I wonder how would you react to that ?
Considering how Muslims are so easy to incite and more prone towards violence. It leaves less credibility to them while renting a room to them.
I wonder why Jews don't have such kind of violent clashes here. In fact they are in even lesser minority.
But you can use that logic to say Palestine isn't oppressed.
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