Virginia to Execute Woman for 1st Time in 98 Years - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Detective P;24789039]Listen, an eye for an eye is more fair and closer to true justice than living for the rest of your life on the dime of the taxpayer without contributing anything to society.[/QUOTE] :barf:

[QUOTE=johan_sm;24789513]No it's not. And hopefully you will never get into power[/QUOTE] Yes it is... How is it not? Is there any alternative that at all gives justice, retribution, and is in any way fair to taking a life other than taking the murderer's? If you choose to take a life, why should you not expect to be punished accordingly? Why should they get a free ride, paid for, with shelter and food for the rest of their life?

[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;24785600]Why does the person who hires a hitman get a more severe punishment than the person who actually commits the murder[/QUOTE] If you mean that they should both get the harshest punishment, I agree.

Prison isn't a free hotel dumbass. Its a centre of boredom and repetition.

[QUOTE=Sleepy Head;24789029]keep whining then, i guess[/QUOTE] Better than condoning it.

An achievement...?

Bitch had it coming.

[QUOTE=Akayz;24789632]Prison isn't a free hotel dumbass. Its a centre of boredom and repetition.[/QUOTE] Compared to the third world it's a penthouse. But that doesn't matter. The fact is that in a prison, someone does not contribute to society, they take money from society, they take resources from society, and they are a burden to society. Society pays to keep murderers alive. Alongside that, why should someone not receive a punishment equal to their crime? Receive what you give? Why is that wrong?

[QUOTE=James*;24789641]Better than condoning it.[/QUOTE] how so? bitch and moaning is productive, right? i don't see how either is better than the other.

[QUOTE=Sleepy Head;24789747]how so? bitch and moaning is productive, right? i don't see how either is better than the other.[/QUOTE] Of course it's productive, people bitching and moaning about things is what leads to change. You don't see how criticising legalised murder is worse than condoning it? Anyone who supports the death penalty is a terrible human being.

[QUOTE=Mr. N;24789104]Some people think that if you murder an innocent person, you don't deserve the right to live. It's not that hard to understand. You're not smart.[/QUOTE] I'm not smart? No, I understand very well what they think. However, what they think is stupid, inhumane, and wrong, morally and legally. There is no way to justify killing a murderer UNLESS the only way to stop them from harming a person in the action is to kill them. [editline]03:46PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Detective P;24789737]Compared to the third world it's a penthouse. But that doesn't matter. The fact is that in a prison, someone does not contribute to society, they take money from society, they take resources from society, and they are a burden to society. Society pays to keep murderers alive. Alongside that, why should someone not receive a punishment equal to their crime? Receive what you give? Why is that wrong?[/QUOTE] Because eye for an eye is idiotic and the government doesn't have the right to deprive people of [b]inalienable rights[/b]

[QUOTE=Detective P;24789737]Compared to the third world it's a penthouse. But that doesn't matter. The fact is that in a prison, someone does not contribute to society, they take money from society, they take resources from society, and they are a burden to society. Society pays to keep murderers alive. Alongside that, why should someone not receive a punishment equal to their crime? Receive what you give? Why is that wrong?[/QUOTE] Because that makes us no better than those who we're killing

[QUOTE=Detective P;24789737]Compared to the third world it's a penthouse. But that doesn't matter.[/QUOTE] That arguement? Are you so low as to bring poverty as an arguement? You are even worse than I thought.

[QUOTE=Detective P;24789589]Yes it is... How is it not? Is there any alternative that at all gives justice, retribution, and is in any way fair to taking a life other than taking the murderer's? If you choose to take a life, why should you not expect to be punished accordingly? Why should they get a free ride, paid for, with shelter and food for the rest of their life?[/QUOTE] [b]RETRIBUTION IS NOT PART OF JUSTICE. RETRIBUTION IS NOT NEEDED.[/b] Do you get the stupidity behind saying "Kill the killers"? No, clearly you don't.

[QUOTE=James*;24789820]Of course it's productive, people bitching and moaning about things is what leads to change. You don't see how criticising legalised murder is worse than condoning it? Anyone who supports the death penalty is a terrible human being.[/QUOTE] you're going to change a lot here on this forum

[QUOTE=Sleepy Head;24789901]you're going to change a lot here on this forum[/QUOTE] Can't hurt.

[QUOTE=Detective P;24789039]Listen, an eye for an eye is more fair and closer to true justice than living for the rest of your life on the dime of the taxpayer without contributing anything to society.[/QUOTE] No, it isn't. Eye for an eye is barbarism. Punishment is not an effective way of treating these people, rehabilitation is. THEN, they do contribute to society, something you're so keen on bitching about.

It's been said before but I can't imagine why the US of all countries would give its government power over life and death

[QUOTE=Sleepy Head;24789901]you're going to change a lot here on this forum[/QUOTE] And you're doing ANYTHING different? You're just bitching on a forum, this is what forums are for, apparently, you don't think that's what forums are for, so leave.

Yes it does. Killing for retribution and justice is a huge leap from killing for personal gain or entertainment. That's like saying the guy who kills in defense is no different than the guy trying to kill him. And the government does have that right, because government represents society, and once someone actively seeks out to harm a member of society, then we have the right to punish them for their crime. We can take away the inalienable rights of those who choose to take away others' and we have the right to remove the rights of those who actively seek to harm society- we do so every time we imprison someone. By saying we have no right to take away inalienable rights then you're saying we have no right to imprison.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;24789976]And you're doing ANYTHING different? You're just bitching on a forum, this is what forums are for, apparently, you don't think that's what forums are for, so leave.[/QUOTE] actually i'm not bitching, i'm just pointing out how you're bitching. there's quite a difference. also, don't tell me what to do.

[QUOTE=Akayz;24789872]That arguement? Are you so low as to bring poverty as an arguement? You are even worse than I thought.[/QUOTE] I said it doesn't matter. I was just pointing out that saying prison is a bad place is kind of relative.

[QUOTE=Detective P;24789589]Yes it is... How is it not? Is there any alternative that at all gives justice, retribution, and is in any way fair to taking a life other than taking the murderer's? If you choose to take a life, why should you not expect to be punished accordingly? Why should they get a free ride, paid for, with shelter and food for the rest of their life?[/QUOTE] Free ride? Prison is hell. Why do so many people suicide in prisons? Because they can't handle it. Ofcourse it depends on prison, but she doesn't get the luxurious one. If I had a choice, I'd take death rather than life in prison.

[QUOTE=Sleepy Head;24790018]actually i'm not bitching, i'm just pointing out how you're bitching. there's quite a difference. also, don't tell me what to do.[/QUOTE] Great well thanks for pointing out the obvious really contributing a lot there

Not one life, deserves death.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;24789958]No, it isn't. Eye for an eye is barbarism. Punishment is not an effective way of treating these people, rehabilitation is. THEN, they do contribute to society, something you're so keen on bitching about.[/QUOTE] Prisons don't rehabilitate murderers, though I do agree with this, i suppose.

[QUOTE=James*;24790051]Great well thanks for pointing out the obvious really contributing a lot there[/QUOTE] if you're so keen on abolishing the death penalty then you can always write to your state representatives and/or governor. that's if you live in the U.S.

[QUOTE=Sleepy Head;24790130]if you're so keen on abolishing the death penalty then you can always write to your state representatives and/or governor. that's if you live in the U.S.[/QUOTE] Which I don't.

Seems a little bit random that they're going to execute her, after 98 years of not doing it. Doubt that this is the most immoral crime that has taken place in Virginia in a century.

[quote]But when sheriff's deputies arrived, Julian was still alive and told them: "My wife knows who done this do me," [URL="http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/teresa-lewis-virginia-woman-borderline-mental-retardation-executed/story?id=11587387"][COLOR=#004173]ABC News[/COLOR][/URL] reported. The man died soon after. [/quote] That's fucking chilling.