A few Bernie Supporters move to Green Party & Jill Stein to help split democratic vote for Trump - Polidicks

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;50783210]i could be wrong, but iirc its just tradition thing from the past. plus, its beneficial to both parties when it suits them; if the popular vote is against you in this election, you can rely on swing states to win it for you our founding fathers loved democracy, but in the other hand hated democracy they wanted people to make decisions, but saw that mobs tend to be retards i.e. the uneducated masses would want something incredibly destructive or stupid because they think its a good idea, so they vote for it. but the electoral college who tended to be educated and more sensible said "no, go home you're all drunk"[/QUOTE] It was because a direct democracy would be next to impossible in the 1700's when communication was writing words down on a letter and hoping it made it to the destination sometime that month. Nor was everybody in-the-know or even aware of what each candidate stood for. A trapper living in a shack in the Appalachians didn't exactly have an astute political analysis of whats going on at the capitol, or throughout the country for that matter. So people cast their votes on a state-wide basis, and the electors from the states connived in DC to cast the final vote with the results.

[QUOTE=OvB;50783308]It was because a direct democracy would be next to impossible in the 1700's when communication was writing words down on a letter and hoping it made it to the destination sometime that month. Nor was everybody in-the-know or even aware of what each candidate stood for. A trapper living in a shack in the Appalachians didn't exactly have an astute political analysis of whats going on at the capitol, or throughout the country for that matter. So people cast their votes on a state-wide basis, and the electors from the states connived in DC to cast the final vote with the results.[/QUOTE] A direct democracy is possible nowadays through technology but people don't always vote on policy issues. In the age of information you can find out news about a candidate or their policies very quickly but the DNC leaks reveal that producing misinformation about your opponents is a viable tactic. And like you said with the trapper example, not every voter is going to be well versed in political issues, and in many cases you are just left with single-issue voters (gun rights, coal mining, ect.)

[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50783452]A direct democracy is possible nowadays through technology but people don't always vote on policy issues. In the age of information you can find out news about a candidate or their policies very quickly but the DNC leaks reveal that producing misinformation about your opponents is a viable tactic. And like you said with the trapper example, not every voter is going to be well versed in political issues, and in many cases you are just left with single-issue voters (gun rights, coal mining, ect.)[/QUOTE] The DNC leaks didn't reveal that.

[QUOTE=Kljunas;50782657]Voting for Clinton won't fix the system.[/QUOTE] Neither will voting for a third party candidate this year. Granted, I'd still much rather have someone like Gary Johnson in office. I don't agree with all of his economic views, but he has a decent amount of experience and credibility, and he's not a total wacko or scumbag.

[QUOTE=Saxon;50782453]Actually a 4 way race is favorable for Clinton :v: [url]http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html[/url][/QUOTE] I don't know. The fact that the two polls on that list with the largest sample sizes and lowest margin of error are favoring Trump scares the fuck out of me.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;50783873]The DNC leaks didn't reveal that.[/QUOTE] Let me rephrase then: The DNC proved that the DNC tried producing false information about Trump as a smear tactic [IMG]http://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/DNC-Request.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/DNC-Trump-Ad.jpg[/IMG] The false information in this case being that Trump placed an overtly demeaning job ad for women

Right but the RNC has used misinformation as a viable tactic against Clinton. It's a political thing that existed long before this race and will exist long after.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;50785260]Right but the RNC has used misinformation as a viable tactic against Clinton. It's a political thing that existed long before this race and will exist long after.[/QUOTE] I believe you but you should at least post a source for that claim

[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50785264]I believe you but you should at least post a source for that claim[/QUOTE] Just off the top of my head, the claims that Clinton would destroy Medicare. [editline]27th July 2016[/editline] I don't think it was a coincidence that Politifact was created during the 2008 campaign when the Republican propaganda machine against Obama was at it's height.

If Stein ever had a chance in hell of winning the nomination, I would definitely vote for her. It's a shame that's not the case, though.

[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50785225]Let me rephrase then: The DNC proved that the DNC tried producing false information about Trump as a smear tactic [IMG]http://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/DNC-Request.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/DNC-Trump-Ad.jpg[/IMG] The false information in this case being that Trump placed an overtly demeaning job ad for women[/QUOTE] Holy shit did you actually read that. It mocks Trump and all of his business ventures. It's not even subtle. Most people can see that this is painfully obvious satire. Especially the last line about Trump greeting a possible employee with a kiss or grope under the table. You'd have to be fucking dense not to realize this is just a joke. Oh, wait...

i'm anti trump but that is most definitely a smear email