• Boston Bans Sugary Drinks
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4.5/10 kids are obese? if I was a US citizen I would be ok with this minor ban.
Well on the bright side, we'll soon be too obese to fight wars :D
[B]land of the free[/B] :v: :v:
Oh my god, could a mod PLEASE change the title to something like "Boston bans sugary drinks on public buildings [b]only[/b]."
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;32158840]Oh my god, could a mod PLEASE change the title to something like "Boston bans sugary drinks on public buildings [b]only[/b]."[/QUOTE] It's a stepping stone to them being banned or heavily regulated. [quote]“There are high costs associated with these high rates of unhealthy weight, both at the personal level in terms of poor health outcomes, and at the societal level in terms of decreases in worker productivity and the rising health care costs,”[/quote] [editline]7th September 2011[/editline] I'd rather he signed an order which made it mandatory for public servants to walk around the block at lunch, or something.
I don't get the whole "BAN THIS IT'S NOT HEALTHY" movement going on. It's the person's choice to drink that or eat this, they shouldn't rely on the state/city/goverment to make that choice for them. I'M FAT AND HAVE DIABETES! IT'S THE CITIES FAULT FOR LETTING ME SPEND MY PAYCHECK ON MOUNTAIN DEW AND SNICKERS BARS! NOT MY FAULT!
[QUOTE=latin_geek;32157253]"100 percent juices" are like ten times less healthy than like, 7up.[/QUOTE] How
[QUOTE=Led Zeppelin;32154219][B]Regulation =/= Education.[/B] Teach people about healthier alternatives and the ramifications of drinking too many sugary drinks while at the same time making the healthier options cheaper and more accessible. Though I guess it isn't so bad considering it isn't really a citywide ban, rather a ban for vendors run by the city. Still, I think they could do better.[/QUOTE] Its hard to educate children when there are soda machines and shit like that in the lunchroom. I don't agree with the citywide ban but they really need to ban them from public schools and radius around them :v:
[QUOTE=Swilly;32158965]Its hard to educate children when there are soda machines and shit like that in the lunchroom. I don't agree with the citywide ban but they really need to ban them from public schools and radius around them :v:[/QUOTE] I agree! PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND A FIFTY MILE RADIUS AROUND THEM.
[QUOTE=Rocket;32158983]Great, I'm fucked next time I go there. (I happen to get a really bad headache whenever I have a lack of liquid - every time I go to boston).[/QUOTE] Bring liquids with you? Just wear a small backpack and put some drinks in it. That's what I do.
Diet Soda is worse for you than regular Soda, Menino, you stupid motherfucker.
[QUOTE=Swilly;32158965]Its hard to educate children when there are soda machines and shit like that in the lunchroom. I don't agree with the citywide ban but they really need to ban them from public schools and radius around them :v:[/QUOTE] Trust me it doesn't work at all. They tried that at my high school (you weren't allowed to buy drinks during school hours) and the kids just either bought them before school started or brought them from home, and brought more than they would have bought to drink. Then they bought more once the school day ended. And snuck them from the vending machines during class when teachers couldn't watch them. [editline]6th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Rocket;32159122]How so?[/QUOTE] Aspartame. It's a fucking horrible chemical. Worse for you than high fructose corn syrup.
After reading the article (which my father told me he heard about on Glenn Beck and then proceeded to lecture me on how the government was communists), this isn't such a bad thing. In fact, since the drink machines lose more money than they make, why not remove them entirely and let private vendors take over? It's good for the small businesses as well as the Boston government.
[QUOTE=Rocket;32159122]How so?[/QUOTE] Stimulates a similar insulin response except there's no glucose in your blood.
[QUOTE=woolio1;32159177]After reading the article (which my father told me he heard about on Glenn Beck and then proceeded to lecture me on how the government was communists), this isn't such a bad thing. In fact, since the drink machines lose more money than they make, why not remove them entirely and let private vendors take over? It's good for the small businesses as well as the Boston government.[/QUOTE] No, this isn't a good idea. Offering healthier choices and ENCOURAGING them is a good idea. RESTRICTING purchase of sugary foodstuffs WITHIN REASON is a good idea. Completely banning them from various places where they're consumed most is NOT a good idea. [editline]6th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Contag;32159194]Stimulates a similar insulin response except there's no glucose in your blood.[/QUOTE] Also a whole bunch of other reasons. One of which is that when it breaks down in your body it produces Methanol, Formaldehyde, and Formic Acid. It's also been linked to an increased risk of cancer and diabetes.
[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;32159203]No, this isn't a good idea. Offering healthier choices and ENCOURAGING them is a good idea. RESTRICTING purchase of sugary foodstuffs WITHIN REASON is a good idea. Completely banning them from various places where they're consumed most is NOT a good idea. [/QUOTE] Not consumed, just sold. From city-owned vending devices and concession stands. In fact, it only applies to foods purchases with city dollars. Private vendors are still in the clear, and you can still sell whatever the heck you please anywhere but through city-owned vending devices. Read the article. This isn't the travesty you think it is.
The title was misleading, it's only in government owned buildings. Yeah, that sucks but they have the right to do whatever the fuck they want within their own private buildings.
[QUOTE=Swilly;32158965]Its hard to educate children when there are soda machines and shit like that in the lunchroom. I don't agree with the citywide ban but they really need to ban them from public schools and radius around them :v:[/QUOTE] They tried that in my old school district. People would profit out of it by selling AMP, and junk foods on campus. What did we learn? Capitalism and prohibition go hand and hand <3
That's still quite a lot though. Bus stations, train stations, subway/metro stations, schools, some universities, libraries, etc. are all government owned buildings. [editline]6th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;32159296]They tried that in my old school district. People would profit out of it by selling AMP, and junk foods on campus. What did we learn? Capitalism and prohibition go hand and hand <3[/QUOTE] Some of my teachers profited off of it. The more lenient ones would get sodas for the students for like 50 cents or favours like sweeping the floor or cleaning the chalkboard.
[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;32159298]That's still quite a lot though. Bus stations, train stations, subway/metro stations, schools, some universities, libraries, etc. are all government owned buildings.[/QUOTE] Yeah it's a bitch and I don't agree with the approach they're taking but as long as they don't go out towards private vendors such as your local Circle K, it doesn't really bother me. Given the opportunity, I'd love to drink and eat healthier products.
"Healthier choices" Bullshit, you just outright banned something. That leaves people with no choice but water and not sugary shit. I enjoy a glass bottle coca cola every now and then(they are getting rarer now).
[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;32159319]Yeah it's a bitch and I don't agree with the approach they're taking but as long as they don't go out towards private vendors such as your local Circle K, it doesn't really bother me. Given the opportunity, I'd love to drink and eat healthier products.[/QUOTE] I would too. Given an opportunity. Not having the 'opportunity' shoved down my throat and be the only option. :v:
[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;32159298]That's still quite a lot though. Bus stations, train stations, subway/metro stations, schools, some universities, libraries, etc. are all government owned buildings.[/QUOTE] Drinking in a library? Madness. Anyway, nothing's stopping you from hopping in your minicar and heading to a nearby petrol station. You get more soda for cheaper too.
[QUOTE=zombini;32159324]"Healthier choices" Bullshit, you just outright banned something. That leaves people with no choice but water and not sugary shit. I enjoy a glass bottle coca cola every now and then(they are getting rarer now).[/QUOTE] Tell me about it. I can't find glass bottle coke for shit these days. The grocery store near where I lived in Chicago had them. But now that I'm down in Florida I can't ever find them except up near the panhandle. And I live in fucking Altamonte Springs. [editline]6th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=woolio1;32159329]Drinking in a library? Madness. Anyway, nothing's stopping you from hopping in your minicar and heading to a nearby petrol station. You get more soda for cheaper too.[/QUOTE] Cheapest way to get soda is to buy a 2 litre then ration it. Separate it into smaller bottles or something. That's what I do at work. I buy a 2 litre of soda, keep it in the work fridge, and drink a glass a day with lunch. Maybe two. Lasts me the whole week, and I end up drinking less soda than if I bought a 16oz or 24oz bottle from the gas station around the corner.
You can get a lot of glass-bottle pops in Arizona at Wallgreens for some reason. Usually Mexican Pepsi though, anyway... Until they can find a way to make healthy foods actually appetizing(note: Talking about school related) they shouldn't force them down the throats of the students. What should be done is schools could allow snack bars from different companies(starbucks, diy shops, ect.) too come on during lunch/free period hours, and serve under represented calorie charts. Products could be given a district set tax(nothing major.... Maybe two cents on the dollar) all of which return to the district in order to fund educational needs. It's a win-win. Students have the choice/information. District gets DST from companies cooking on campus. Companies will be able to reach students during lunch hours. What might also be a win is students might be able to get jobs in these snack bars which could progress as work experience off campus.
Boston [b]sweet[/b] tea party anyone?
[QUOTE=Map in a box;32159722]Boston [b]sweet[/b] tea party anyone?[/QUOTE] lmao xd great post
[QUOTE=Imanoob;32157963]I'm really surprised no one has posted a Scout joke[/QUOTE] There was one on the first page
It's just with city property, so I don't see a problem. it's not like they're stopping Coke from distributing it's product in supermarkets or corner stores?
I find it funny how the water bottles in my school cost more than the sodas at the vending machines
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