• Riot police raid illegal gypsy site Dale Farm - 7 arrested, many injured
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[QUOTE=Zeke129;32860506]Yeah, people don't want gypsies in their back yard so the council folded. Thank you for backing up what I've been saying.[/QUOTE] Did you just generalise an entire local community?
Being an American, I think I can say with a great amount of confidence that I have never seen a gypsy, and that if I stay in the United States, I probably never will. :smug:
[QUOTE=Man Without Hat;32860632]I think now that it has been proven that hating gypsies isn't racism, we should get an explanation why peple have been banned for racism.[/QUOTE] Nothing has been proven [editline]19th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Wiggles;32860641]Did you just generalise an entire local community?[/QUOTE] I generalized an entire planning council yeah But I'm sure the Romani people were well represented on this council heh
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32860646]Nothing has been proven[/QUOTE] It has been shown that Romani people are an ethnic group not a race.
[QUOTE=Stopper;32860617]The Romani, who are known collectively in the Romani language as Romane or Rromane (depending on the dialect concerned) and also as Romany, Romanies, Romanis, Roma or Roms, are [b]an ethnic group[/b] living mostly in Europe An ethnic group (or ethnicity) is a group of people whose members identify with each other, through a common heritage, often consisting of a common language, a common culture (often including a shared religion) and/or an ideology that stresses common ancestry or endogamy.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Zeke129;32860646]Nothing has been proven[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;32860493]Nobody gives a fuck what they want to be / are meant to be called, they're smelly scum that should be shipped out the country. Every day where I work they come in and try stealing clothes even though they're banned. [B]Oh, and yes - Gypsies can be banned, it isn't racist.[/B] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Racism" - Starpluck))[/highlight] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Racism" - Starpluck))[/highlight][/QUOTE] Apparently double-axeled caravans are banned from quite a few camp sites in France because that's what the French travellers use
[QUOTE=Man Without Hat;32860657]It has been shown that Romani people are an ethnic group not a race.[/QUOTE] Both are protected under the law in the exact same way
[QUOTE=ewitwins;32860644]Being an American, I think I can say with a great amount of confidence that I have never seen a gypsy, and that if I stay in the United States, I probably never will. :smug:[/QUOTE] BUT HUUUUUUURRRR, YOU SEE BLACKS ALL THE TIME!
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32860628]Holy shit Semite is a race as well[/QUOTE] [img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/how_do_i_into_venn_diagrams.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32860638]If people meant that they would say it, not "I hate gypsies they're scum".[/QUOTE] People say Gypsy because people usually use the term Gypsy to refer to travelling communities, not the Romani people.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32860666]Both are protected under the law in the exact same way[/QUOTE] I was meaning the bans here as opposed to the law.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;32860669][img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/how_do_i_into_venn_diagrams.png[/img][/QUOTE] And Semites are the rightmost circle.
North American Gypsy Control is called a Tornado.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;32860677]People say Gypsy because people usually use the term Gypsy to refer to travelling communities, not the Romani people.[/QUOTE] And why exactly is that Same reason people use faggot as a general insult?
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;32860677]People say Gypsy because people usually use the term Gypsy to refer to travelling communities, not the Romani people.[/QUOTE] yes, here, Zeke, let me get you a little snippet from Urban Dictionary. Read the bolded part. 1. gypsy Fucking scum of the earth [B](not the traditional gypsies, but the cunts found all over the United Kingdom.)[/B] I used to lodge in a cottage in a small villiage in Gloucestershire that happened to have a Gypsy colony about 500 meters away. These scumbag bastards stole my landlords motorbike, large stone garden ornament and even a CAST IRON BATH TUB. The cunts also used to order taxis from town and get out at the cottage then skip over the back fence without paying, meaning that taxis would refuse to come out to the cottage to collect me because of the damn fooking gyppoes. Biggest scumbag wankers to walk this earth, and that's a fact. Being a gypsy cunt gives me the right to steal anything unless it is nailed down.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32860685]And Semites are the rightmost circle.[/QUOTE] Anti-semitism applies to all jews not the jewish race so you can therefore deduce that semites are not a race but an ethnic group.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32860699]And why exactly is that Same reason people use faggot as a general insult?[/QUOTE] Yes, it's essentially a slang term when people use it that way. You'd be stupid to assume that everyone who used the word faggot as an insult was being homophobic.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32860484]I'm not retreating at all. And yes, I'm saying their race could have played a part in why they were evicted. When you have 75,000 houses being granted exception but not less than 100 caravans, you have to look at some possible ulterior motives for it.[/QUOTE] Tje reason is that one exçeption is (your article) for homes, university buildings and infrastructure and the other is for unregistered people in caravans
[QUOTE=ewitwins;32860644]Being an American, I think I can say with a great amount of confidence that I have never seen a gypsy, and that if I stay in the United States, I probably never will. :smug:[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people_by_country#North_America[/url] [release] Romani organizations currently estimate that there are about one million Romanies in the USA and 80,000 in Canada.[/release]
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32860699]And why exactly is that Same reason people use faggot as a general insult?[/QUOTE] No I think it's because these traveling communities consist of gypsies
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;32860715]Yes, it's essentially a slang term when people use it that way. You'd be stupid to assume that everyone who used the word faggot as an insult was being homophobic.[/QUOTE] Generally if you use faggot as an insult you're being homophobic, yes. If I called someone I didn't like a nigger I'd be racist even if they weren't black.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32860646]I generalized an entire planning council yeah But I'm sure the Romani people were well represented on this council heh[/QUOTE] Apparently they were. [quote]In a series of secret meetings, including one at the Downham Arms pub in Wickford, traveller leader Richard Sheridan discussed the audacious offer with council leader Tony Ball and head of planning Dawn French. Mr Sheridan, 42, spokesman for the illegal site, suggested the huge pay-off after learning of the spiralling costs of eviction. He demanded cash in return for a promise he would clear the Crays Hill illegal camp, and buy another site for the 96 families outside Basildon.[/quote] [url]http://www.basildonrecorder.co.uk/archive/2011/09/06/Basildon+News+%28basildon_news%29/9234383.Travellers_wanted___6m_to_leave_Dale_Farm/[/url]
[QUOTE=Kopimi;32860723]No I think it's because these traveling communities consist of gypsies[/QUOTE] You're really not helping their case of "we don't mean Romani people"
I like how nearly every British person has a story about gypsies
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32860726]Generally if you use faggot as an insult you're being homophobic, yes. If I called someone I didn't like a nigger I'd be racist even if they weren't black.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7hQN4Amaeg[/media] Accurately shows the shift in what people generally use 'faggot' to describe. It's now used as a general insult and not to insult you.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32860733]You're really not helping their case of "we don't mean Romani people"[/QUOTE] Ok, sorry for hurting your feelings by using the word gypsy to refer to traveling communities of thieves and homeless squatters, that was mean of me I hate: traveling communities of thieves and homeless squatters Not "gypsies"
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32860646]Nothing has been proven [editline]19th October 2011[/editline] I generalized an entire planning council yeah But I'm sure the Romani people were well represented on this council heh[/QUOTE] Just to give you an idea why people dislike them. Quick story - though you'll probably have to run it trough a translator. A while ago, there was a fair big move of gypsies towards a town in the CZ due to them opening a home there. All is good, now the problem is the fairly massive rise of criminiality in the area. Just for reference - the yearly difference in breakins went from 12 to 42 and for stealing from 15 to 31. With an overall tripling of the rate of criminality. Those are the reasons people get so defensive about the situation. There's a bunch of other fairly big issues as well. [URL]http://zpravy.idnes.cz/sluknovsko-se-potyka-s-prilivem-romu-starostove-pisi-necasovi-psr-/domaci.aspx?c=A110609_1599999_usti-zpravy_alh[/URL]
[QUOTE=Wiggles;32860729]Apparently they were. [url]http://www.basildonrecorder.co.uk/archive/2011/09/06/Basildon+News+%28basildon_news%29/9234383.Travellers_wanted___6m_to_leave_Dale_Farm/[/url][/QUOTE] He wanted the money to move the camp, read the rest of the article. It isn't cheap to move that many people.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32860726]Generally if you use faggot as an insult you're being homophobic, yes.[/QUOTE] people still think this?
[QUOTE=Kopimi;32860749] I hate: traveling communities of thieves and homeless squatters[/QUOTE] You realize that's a fairly okay thing to say right Had everyone said it from the beginning there wouldn't be any bans or a shitstorm
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