PSN Users Reporting Hundreds of Dollars Stolen From Them
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[QUOTE=Deweze;29474429][img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/sy7UU.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]
How many of these are there going to be?
[QUOTE=jaykray;29474448]How many of these are there going to be?[/QUOTE]
Until it stops being funny, like that 'ps3 has no games' joke.
I.e. Real fucking fast.
"lol ps3 has no games :downs: aren't i so funny and original guiz :downs:"
The funny thing is, a long ass time ago when I first set up my PSN, I tried to add money to the account with my credit card and it wouldn't work. I tried everything from changing capitilzation in the name and reentering the number but it always said invalid, even if it was correct, so I tried calling customer support and they put me on hold and never answered.
So I was pretty much forced to use the prepaid cards, and I want to thank Sony for having shitty customer service and saving me from this.
Though even if that info I sent before was saved that card has long expired.
[QUOTE=markg06;29463134]And do what exactly? If you're not an idiot you'll have decent security on your router and you might even have some on anything that's using wireless.[/QUOTE]
did you not see the earlier post where the guy asked if unplugging his ps3 would protect him? i am talking about people like him. i worry for them.
sheesh some people obviously are blind to realize that not every gamer is computer savy.
>_>
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;29474464]Until it stops being funny, like that 'ps3 has no games' joke.
I.e. Real fucking fast.[/QUOTE]
And there'll always be a bunch that'll never get that memo
I'm starting to think this is not anonymous anymore. I think anonymous opened the hole. Letting other hackers through to steal the info. Also, Sony.
WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T YOU ENCRYPT THE PERSONAL INFO!
I'm glad I haven't bought anything on PSN with my new debit card. I had to wait two weeks before my bank sent my new one to me in the first place. I really don't want to have to wait even longer to have access to my account again.
Sony screwed themselves over
[url]http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/27/qa-1-for-playstation-network-and-qriocity-services/[/url]
"The entire credit card table was encrypted and we have no evidence that credit card data was taken. The personal data table, which is a separate data set, was not encrypted, but was, of course, behind a very sophisticated security system that was breached in a malicious attack. "
Very Sophisticated System, Sony you are a bunch of dumbfucks.
[editline]27th April 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Wolfygod;29476150]I'm starting to think this is not anonymous anymore. I think anonymous opened the hole. Letting other hackers through to steal the info. Also, Sony.
WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T YOU ENCRYPT THE PERSONAL INFO![/QUOTE]
It wasn't Anonymous, if it were they would be bragging like hell.
[QUOTE=Van-man;29476049]And there'll always be a bunch that'll never get that memo[/QUOTE]
Like my stupid ass room mate and his friend next door :v:
[editline]27th April 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=AnathemicOne;29476821]Sony screwed themselves over
[url]http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/27/qa-1-for-playstation-network-and-qriocity-services/[/url]
"The entire credit card table was encrypted and we have no evidence that credit card data was taken. The personal data table, which is a separate data set, was not encrypted, but was, of course, behind a very sophisticated security system that was breached in a malicious attack. "
Very Sophisticated System, Sony you are a bunch of dumbfucks.
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Further reading tells you that you should still change all your information :v:
Found this gem in my inbox (Note the fake PSN email):
[Quote=Sony, obviously]Add [email]PlayStation_Network@playstation-email.com[/email] to your address book
===================================
PlayStation(R)Network
===================================
Valued PlayStation Network/Qriocity Customer:
We have discovered that between April 17 and April 19, 2011,
certain PlayStation Network and Qriocity service user account
information was compromised. As a result of what we have found
to date, we have:
1) Temporarily turned off PlayStation Network and Qriocity services;
2) Engaged an outside, recognized security firm to conduct a full and
complete investigation into what happened; and
3) Quickly taken steps to enhance security and strengthen our network
infrastructure by rebuilding our system to provide you with greater
protection of your personal information.
We greatly appreciate your patience, understanding and goodwill as
we do whatever it takes to resolve these issues as quickly and efficiently
as practicable.
Although we are still investigating the details of this incident, we
believe that an unauthorized person has obtained the following information
that you provided: name, address (city, state, zip), country, email address,
birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN
online ID. It is also possible that your profile data, including purchase
history and billing address (city, state, zip), and your PlayStation
Network/Qriocity password security answers may have been obtained.
If you have authorized a sub-account for your dependent, the same
data with respect to your dependent may have been obtained.
While there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was
taken, we cannot rule out the possibility. If you have provided your
credit card data through PlayStation Network or Qriocity, out of an
abundance of caution we are advising you that your credit card number
(excluding security code) and expiration date may have been obtained.
For your security, we encourage you to be especially aware of email,
telephone and postal mail scams that ask for personal or sensitive
information. Sony will not contact you in any way, including by email,
asking for your credit card number, social security number or other
personally identifiable information. If you are asked for this information,
you can be confident Sony is not the entity asking. When the PlayStation Network
and Qriocity services are fully restored, we strongly recommend that you
log on and change your password. Additionally, if you use your PlayStation
Network or Qriocity user name or password for other unrelated services or
accounts, we strongly recommend that you change them, as well.
Under Massachusetts law, you have the right to obtain any police report
filed in regard to this incident. If you are the victim of identity theft,
you also have the right to file a police report and obtain a copy of it.
Massachusetts law also allows consumers to place a security freeze on their
credit reports. A security freeze prohibits a credit reporting agency from
releasing any information from a consumer's credit report without written
authorization. However, please be aware that placing a security freeze on
your credit report may delay, interfere with, or prevent the timely approval
of any requests you make for new loans, credit mortgages, employment, housing
or other services.
If you have been a victim of identity theft, and you provide the credit
reporting agency with a valid police report, it cannot charge you to place,
lift or remove a security freeze. In all other cases, a credit reporting
agency may charge you up to $5.00 each to place, temporarily lift, or
permanently remove a security freeze.
To place a security freeze on your credit report, you must send a written
request to each of the three major consumer reporting agencies:
Equifax ([url]www.equifax.com);[/url] Experian ([url]www.experian.com);[/url] and
TransUnion ([url]www.transunion.com[/url]) by regular, certified or overnight
mail at the addresses below:
Equifax Security Freeze
P.O. Box 105788
Atlanta, GA 30348
Experian Security Freeze
P.O. Box 9554
Allen, TX 75013
Trans Union Security Freeze
Fraud Victim Assistance Department
P.O. Box 6790
Fullerton, CA 92834
In order to request a security freeze, you will need to provide the following information:
1. Your full name (including middle initial as well as Jr., Sr., II, III, etc.);
2. Social Security Number;
3. Date of birth;
4. If you have moved in the past five (5) years, provide the addresses
where you have lived over the prior five (5) years;
5. Proof of current address such as a current utility bill or telephone bill;
6. A legible photocopy of a government-issued identification card
(state driver's license or ID card, military identification, etc.)
7. If you are a victim of identity theft, include a copy of either the
police report, investigative report, or complaint to a law enforcement agency
concerning identity theft;
8. If you are not a victim of identity theft, include payment by check,
money order, or credit card (Visa, MasterCard, American Express or
Discover only). Do not send cash through the mail.
The credit reporting agencies have three (3) business days after receiving
your request to place a security freeze on your credit report. The credit
bureaus must also send written confirmation to you within five (5) business
days and provide you with a unique personal identification number (PIN)
or password, or both, that can be used by you to authorize the removal
or lifting of the security freeze.
To lift the security freeze in order to allow a specific entity or individual
access to your credit report, you must call or send a written request to the
credit reporting agencies by mail and include proper identification (name, address,
and social security number) and the PIN number or password provided to
you when you placed the security freeze as well as the identities of those
entities or individuals you would like to receive your credit report or the
specific period of time you want the credit report available. The
credit reporting agencies have three (3) business days after receiving
your request to lift the security freeze for those identified entities or
for the specified period of time.
To remove the security freeze, you must send a written request to each
of the three credit bureaus by mail and include proper identification
(name, address, and social security number) and the PIN number or
password provided to you when you placed the security freeze.
The credit bureaus have three (3) business days after receiving your
request to remove the security freeze.
We thank you for your patience as we complete our investigation of
this incident, and we regret any inconvenience. Our teams are working
around the clock on this, and services will be restored as soon as possible.
Sony takes information protection very seriously and will continue to work
to ensure that additional measures are taken to protect personally
identifiable information. Providing quality and secure entertainment
services to our customers is our utmost priority. Please contact us at
1-800-345-7669 should you have any additional questions.
Sincerely,
Sony Computer Entertainment and Sony Network Entertainment[/quote]
Seems legit
I love how you can't even access PSN on the website to check which cards are binded to the account.
I have two cards, one deactivated and the other one which I don't remember if I had used on PSN.
I only have like $2 on my bank account either way, I'm guessing I should still cancel that card anyway?
Kinda sad, really. Sony is pretty much fucked, all because of some asshole hackers.
[QUOTE=Artyom;29481490]Kinda sad, really. Sony is pretty much fucked, all because of some asshole hackers.[/QUOTE]
sony make more than playstation products they will be fine
[QUOTE=Roo-kie;29481519]sony make more than playstation products they will be fine[/QUOTE]
Yeah I guess.
No CC info but I think I put my personal info in there
Damn.
EDIT: I just checked my gmail and it says I've been logged in, in CHINA. :worried:
[QUOTE=Headcrab54;29477440]Found this gem in my inbox (Note the fake PSN email):
Seems legit[/QUOTE]
That's not a fake email address, they've been using that one for their Store updates for awhile now.
And that email is basically what their FAQ says on their website anyway.
that is definitely a fake email. they don't have lines in their email, not to mention they would never ask for personal information.
I know that these ones are real at least: [email]news@eu.playstationmail.com[/email] , [email]donotreply@ac.playstation.net[/email]
I think my PSN uses an old, deactivated credit card. There's no real way for me to find out though...
Why do you people own credit cards / bank accounts if you don't even know about fraud insurance stuff? I suppose debit cards are more understandable, but a credit card is something you should learn about before you go and get one.
[QUOTE=Wolfygod;29476150]I'm starting to think this is not anonymous anymore. I think anonymous opened the hole. Letting other hackers through to steal the info. Also, Sony.
WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T YOU ENCRYPT THE PERSONAL INFO![/QUOTE]
Ofcourse it's not anonymous. Do you really think a bunch of fourteen year old kids posting muddy dicks and running DDOS scripts suddenly developed the technical prowess to breach and compromize a corporate database?
Just when I take my PS3 off CFW to play online this happens. If 3.6 gets hacked I'm going back to CFW.
[QUOTE=someguyihate;29482788]I think my PSN uses an old, deactivated credit card. There's no real way for me to find out though...[/QUOTE]
Yes there is,
If people need to find out what details they put into their PSN then go to your emails and search your emails for [email]DoNotReply@ac.playstation.net[/email] there will be an email with your details in it.
Also,
[img]http://i.imgur.com/Q73jA.png[/img]
I can't find any emails from that address :/
This is fucked up (sorry for any of you FP'ers who got some money stolen, hopefully you'll get it back), but somewhat expectable. I mean, they fucked the hacker community in the ass with all their recent moves and policies so it'd be naive of us to not expect any kind of retribution coming from them.
The result? Sony spent lots of money on anti-hacking and anti-piracy concerns... and it looks like they'll just have to spend A FUCKTON more.
Sony is in really deep shit.
[QUOTE=someguyihate;29483431]I can't find any emails from that address :/[/QUOTE]
Check other email addresses? It definitely works.
[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;29457931]If it is actually true that Sony was sitting on this information about how severe the security breach was, this could be this end of them as a company.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say the end of them, but certainly lots of people is going to lose the confidence they once had in Sony products and services, and it's going to be a bitch for them to get that back.
[editline]28th April 2011[/editline]
Also,
Expect a Hitler meme video titled like "Hitler finds out his PSN account has been compromised and money has been deducted from his credit card" in 5... 4... 3... 2...
[editline]28th April 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Frankie;29458338]i understand people getting mad by that but that is no excuse to steal money from customers.[/QUOTE]
Means to an end, my friend... simple as that.
I'm still going to get a Ps3 once this blows over, I'll use prepaid cards and a fresh email-address.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;29483495]This is fucked up (sorry for any of you FP'ers who got some money stolen, hopefully you'll get it back), but somewhat expectable. I mean, they fucked the hacker community in the ass with all their recent moves and policies so it'd be naive of us to not expect any kind of retribution coming from them.[/QUOTE]
For starters, we don't even know yet who's behind this, let alone if they're connected to the OtherOS bollocks. That's getting less likely anyway with this whole credit card scheme that's going on.
Besides, even if they were, this is completely unjustified, no matter how you put it. Being pissed off about it, fine. Doing something of this proportion crosses several lines however and in no way helps your case.
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