PSN Users Reporting Hundreds of Dollars Stolen From Them - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Wobbier;29458796]"We then brought in outside experts to help us learn how the intrusion occurred and to conduct an investigation to determine the nature and scope of the incident." Maybe the outside experts are the hackers getting an inside look on how things work o.o[/QUOTE] If they already got in and stole all the information, why would they go back into the mess. Even some bullshit "I was helping you therefor I'm not the thief" mindset would be completely absurd.

Hacker can have fun with a card that expired 2 weeks ago.

I doubt they spent an entire week not doing anything in order to maintain the situation.

After Sony learned of the problems ahead and possible bankruptcy a strange sound occured... "Everybody haaaates chriiiisss!!!"

[QUOTE=Johnbooth;29458862] He used those words, so I put them down. He also re-opened the account where the credit card was used to buy things from PSN. If any funds are missing, my dad is going to press charges.[/QUOTE] While they are bound to protect this kind of data, I would think that seeing as we have been notified at this point that our information has been taken, they would absolve them from most liability of you reopening the credit card with hopes of money being taken to press charges. I'd imagine that anyone directly affected by charges to their credit card and such will be involved in a mass class-action lawsuit anyway.

Thank god i don't have a PS3 :ohdear:

[QUOTE=Frankie;29458973]After Sony learned of the problems ahead and possible bankruptcy a strange sound occured... "Everybody haaaates sonnnnnnny!!!"[/QUOTE] Fixed. [editline]27th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=orgornot;29458966]I doubt they spent an entire week not doing anything in order to maintain the situation.[/QUOTE] But were talking about Sony here.

good thing i haven't updated my actual credit card info on my psn account and have only used my current credit card once to buy Undead Nightmare but I didn't save it to the account. Hopefully they didn't get the user history or something and can find the CC info from there. If so, good luck trying to take anything out because 1. I only have $0.98 left in my checkings after paying bills and CC isn't connected to my savings which I would be deathly afraid if it was and 2. I have overdraft protection so if they tried to take out anything more than $0.98 they would only get $0.98 so have fun with that.

Jesus chrst, the guys on the Sony Blog Comments are idiots! They claim Sony did something good by not telling us this shit. What the hell?

[QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;29458997]good thing i haven't updated my actual credit card info on my psn account and have only used my current credit card once to buy Undead Nightmare but I didn't save it to the account. Hopefully they didn't get the user history or something and can find the CC info from there. If so, good luck trying to take anything out because 1. I only have $0.98 left in my checkings after paying bills and CC isn't connected to my savings which I would be deathly afraid if it was and 2. I have overdraft protection so if they tried to take out anything more than $0.98 they would only get $0.98 so have fun with that.[/QUOTE] Just cancel it, there is a good chance the hacker's are after anything.

I only ever used prepaid $20 or $50 cards so this is no big deal to me but holy shit, better warn my buddy about it.

[QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;29458997]good thing i haven't updated my actual credit card info on my psn account and have only used my current credit card once to buy Undead Nightmare but I didn't save it to the account. Hopefully they didn't get the user history or something and can find the CC info from there. If so, good luck trying to take anything out because 1. I only have $0.98 left in my checkings after paying bills and CC isn't connected to my savings which I would be deathly afraid if it was and 2. I have overdraft protection so if they tried to take out anything more than $0.98 they would only get $0.98 so have fun with that.[/QUOTE] ^ That's not how a credit card works.

[QUOTE=Meep Moop;29458980]While they are bound to protect this kind of data, I would think that seeing as we have been notified at this point that our information has been taken, they would absolve them from most liability of you reopening the credit card with hopes of money being taken to press charges. I'd imagine that anyone directly affected by charges to their credit card and such will be involved in a mass class-action lawsuit anyway.[/QUOTE] But they told us 5 days after the event. 5 days is unacceptable. And they didn't try to contact anyone, other then through playstation blog announcements. This wouldn't absolve much, if any, liability from sony. Not everyone automatically thinks "PSN is down - hackers are behind it, gotta check the PSN blog." They should've tried to contact people by email, over the phone, and given them a website to visit. And at the site, they should've told them what is going on and said "WE CALLED YOU, THIS IS WHAT WE SAID TO YOU ON THE PHONE.". With this, almost all of the confusion would be resolved. Better yet if it was in the first 24-36 hours of the leak. But even then the lost data would be in sonys lap, to an extent.

[QUOTE=Johnbooth;29459058]But they told us 5 days after the event. 5 days is unacceptable. And they didn't try to contact anyone, other then through playstation blog announcements. This wouldn't absolve much, if any, liability from sony. Not everyone automatically thinks "PSN is down - hackers are behind it, gotta check the PSN blog." They should've tried to contact people by email, over the phone, and given them a website to visit. And at the site, they should've told them what is going on and said "WE CALLED YOU, THIS IS WHAT WE SAID TO YOU ON THE PHONE.". With this, almost all of the confusion would be resolved. Better yet if it was in the first 24-36 hours of the leak. But even then the lost data would be in sonys lap, to an extent.[/QUOTE] They're not going to contact over 50 million people personally. They've sent an automated e-mail to every account holder stating the exact same things they put up on the website. According to them, it took them a week to figure out which information was stolen, and that was the reason for the delay. We don't know if that's the truth, but we don't know if that's a lie either. Speculating about suing them and debating whose fault is this isn't gonna get you anywhere. Shit happens. Change your CC, and if you're worried don't give your CC to Sony anymore. DONE.

[QUOTE=Heroms;29459116]They've sent an automated e-mail to every account holder stating the exact same things they put up on the website.[/QUOTE] No they haven't.

Its not the hackers fault, it's Sony's fault for not encrypting anything. Anyone with a developer console could access password_creditcards.txt

[QUOTE=vizard38;29459005]Jesus chrst, the guys on the Sony Blog Comments are idiots! They claim Sony did something good by not telling us this shit. What the hell?[/QUOTE] In the Sony blog, Sony claimed that they were trying to investigate it, possibly attempting to find the culprit.

[QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;29459180]In the Sony blog, Sony claimed that they were trying to investigate it, possibly attempting to find the culprit.[/QUOTE] Sorry, I was referring the comments. Die hard fans in there.

[QUOTE=Agent_Wesker;29459157]Its not the hackers fault, it's Sony's fault for not encrypting anything. Anyone with a developer console could access password_creditcards.txt[/QUOTE] It is hackers fault too y'know. They actually did the shit.

[QUOTE=Heroms;29459116]They're not going to contact over 50 million people personally. They've sent an automated e-mail to every account holder stating the exact same things they put up on the website. According to them, it took them a week to figure out which information was stolen, and that was the reason for the delay. We don't know if that's the truth, but we don't know if that's a lie either. Speculating about suing them and debating whose fault is this isn't gonna get you anywhere. Shit happens. Change your CC, and if you're worried don't give your CC to Sony anymore. DONE.[/QUOTE] They could've sent an automated phone call, why didn't they? It would've worked more effectively. Besides, sony still is liable, even if it did take them a week to "figure out" that all their shit was compromised. I won't let a "shit happens" excuse slip by on this one. Because of this, some people might no be able to pay electricity bills. Some people might have to pick up that second job, or work those extra hours. Hell some people might be skipping meals soon. Now, Mr. Heroms, if you we're in that position what would you expect from Sony? Would you just let it slip? No, I hope not. So don't be a close minded fuckhead who blames it on the end-user. And on that last remark, a lot of people didn't/won't have times to change their CC number considering this WASN'T a wide spread release that information was compromised.

[QUOTE=Olanov;29459207]It is hackers fault too y'know. They actually did the shit.[/QUOTE] I don't think anyone is arguing with you on that.

I never got an email. What the christ?

[QUOTE=vizard38;29459261]I never got an email. What the christ?[/QUOTE] This is just my point, a lot of the community directly affected never even got an email! [editline]26th April 2011[/editline] Or it was marked as spam

[QUOTE=Xera;29459143]No they haven't.[/QUOTE] Well they said they have so I took their word for it. This doesn't really concern me so I haven't bothered to check. [QUOTE=Johnbooth;29459234]Now, Mr. Heroms, if you we're in that position what would you expect from Sony? Would you just let it slip? No, I hope not. So don't be a close minded fuckhead who blames it on the end-user. And on that last remark, a lot of people didn't/won't have times to change their CC number considering this WASN'T a wide spread release that information was compromised.[/QUOTE] THE BANK COVERS THIS. It's a fraudulent transaction. Unless your bank is full retard, you won't have problems paying your electricity bill and putting food on the table. There are credit card thefts happening all around you buddy, just because a major company suddenly gets involved in this doesn't make it any more severe than the thefts that happen [b]every single day.[/b] Here's a fun fact for you, there are over a billion dollars stolen annually word-wide from credit card fraud. Calm your pants kiddo.

[QUOTE=Johnbooth;29459271]This is just my point, a lot of the community directly affected never even got an email! [editline]26th April 2011[/editline] Or it was marked as spam[/QUOTE] Not in Spam, just checked.

I'm happy I never did any business on PSN. So I should be safe.

After thinking about it for a while.. Sony can recover.

Thank God I haven't used a credit card on PSN, but I'm still worried about having some of my other info stolen. :ohdear: Also, [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/DrForester/SonyIsntGoodWithComputers.gif[/img]

[QUOTE=Mikesword221;29457974]I don't think that's the case this time. This really seems to be done with a very malicious intent. Not a screw a company over attempt but a get money, live like a king attempt. And that's what scares me about it. :ohdear:[/QUOTE] It's really kind of impressive, the grand scheme of it. If someone planned this all out, than they're truly brilliant and/or evil. In one fell swoop, a single person has quite possibly sown the death knell for a major international company, ruined the name(not that Anon ever had a name) of a loose yet infamous coalition of hacktivists, and in the process has likely become millions of dollars richer. I'd very much like to know though, how he pulled it all off, getting into the deepest, darkest recesses of Sony to get the CC information, decrypted it, and then utilized it on a massive scale to steal millions and millions of dollars. It would be something worth knowing.

collaps3 will be remembered as the week that hackers ruined everything