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[QUOTE=Duck M.;51350352]Actually, arent many cameras in sports currently transitioning to being automated? I feel like at the very least basic camera manipulation that doesnt fall on the creative cinematography spectrum will be done by robots in the very near future.[/QUOTE] Men still have to set the camera in its position, allow for its movement and sight, and in the case of automation program and debug its code and actions.

Self driving cars won't be the main stream thing for awhile, all the legal shit that they'll have to go through with all different kinds of countries is going to take years. Plus, we don't know if for the first few years it'll be the rich man's form of transport only.

[QUOTE=Map in a box;51349493]It is impossible to have less than like 3% unemployment[/QUOTE] Hitler did it in 1938 by changing and controlling the national currency system away from the control of international banks and supporting infrastructure and public works projects. It's not impossible at all, it's the result of the economic models we practice and the projects we throw money away on. I'm not trying to defend Hitler's actions but what he did with the economy in Germany was nothing short of incredible.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;51350373]Ehh, sports is an edge case where automating the camera isn't actually hard. Image recognition algorithms can generally pick out the ball in high speed footage fairly well now. So it's not hard to follow a football match, or a tennis match for example. Films and TV shows require some kind of intuition to get the angles right, which computers can't emulate right now.[/QUOTE] Yeah thats definitely true. But film and TV, much like much of the entertainment industry and the liberal arts in general, its already incredibly competitive and seems like it just doesnt have enough work to go around. If we actually saw a reality where this sector became increasingly more popular because of automation it would get even worse. We cant have an infinite supply of entertainment you know, people only have so much time and higher ups and investors only have so much money to put towards projects.

[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;51350392]Self driving cars won't be the main stream thing for awhile, all the legal shit that they'll have to go through with all different kinds of countries is going to take years. Plus, we don't know if for the first few years it'll be the rich man's form of transport only.[/QUOTE] It won't take that long at all actually. The reason I say that is the driving factor behind saving money will be insurance premiums. You have to insure your drivers, your trucks, your contents/cargo, and that isn't cheap. For large companies that operate a lot of trucks with a lot of drivers? They'll see a massive drive to start this process. As for rules and regulations, again, insurance companies are going to lead the charge on that one in a lot of ways. They are already aware of the savings due to decreased claims they'd see under a more robust system from the lack of human error and will be ready with regulations that help the whole process become legalized and legitimate. I'm pretty sure commercial policies for vehicles will do this as soon as they can due to the massive savings they're looking at, and they are massive.

[QUOTE=Anderan;51350226]Literally every single instance I can find of someone testing "self driving" tucks are all this "automated only on highways" type of trucks.[/QUOTE]Why are you assuming the technology will arbitrarily stop there? I see your point but I'm not sure if it's relevant since the goal is [I]complete[/I] automation regardless of the test vehicle's configuration. [QUOTE=Duck M.;51350235]The more I think about it the more I wonder just exactly how any current economic model, especially capitalism, will manage to function the more technology advances and the more jobs go away forever A society that values your worth by your occupation seems like it would crumble when there arent enough sustainable occupations to go around[/QUOTE]I'll quote myself:[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;51346678]What we do need though is what's been discussed on this page and previous ones, consolidation of welfare systems, UBI, better access to education, and I actually suggested automation as a solution to tomorrow's economic situation. I think incentives for small businesses in conjunction with a functioning UBI with automation options for small businesses and self-employed would be the best way forward. That might make the future market extremely competitive since entry into it as a supplier would be low risk, or relatively low risk, and as evident with the black market the price stays steady if the number of suppliers of a commodity is high and the risk to entry isn't a significant barrier. Combined with delivery drones I think the number of people running a business out of their garage could really explode, give them the tools and the means and they'll show up like mushrooms after the rain.[/QUOTE] This would be the course of action that's the most compatible with American ideals and our current society.

[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;51350622]Why are you assuming the technology will arbitrarily stop there? I see your point but I'm not sure if it's relevant since the goal is [I]complete[/I] automation regardless of the test vehicle's configuration.[/QUOTE] I never said it would stop there, but all this time you've been arguing that within 10 years we're going to get vehicles that will completely replace people despite most of the designs right now still including people. I said you were being sensationalist, not completely wrong.

[QUOTE=Zero-Point;51345784]And on top of that, Ben "the pyramids were grain silos" Carson was allegedly chosen as as the head of the Dept. of Education. (please tell me I'm wrong)[/QUOTE] Just like that, the K-12 kids for the next four(maybe eight) years will be creationist, climate change denying, trickle-down economic idiots. The potential of an entire generation wasted.

[QUOTE=Anderan;51350665]I never said it would stop there, but all this time you've been arguing that within 10 years we're going to get vehicles that will completely replace people despite most of the designs right now still including people. I said you were being sensationalist, not completely wrong.[/QUOTE]My point was the designs now are proofs of concept and their arrival [I]this early[/I] is an indication that the technology has progressed rapidly to fruition. That's not being sensationalist, that's pointing out the incredible speed of things that have, in fact, happened and the pace hasn't showed any signs of slowing.

[QUOTE=LtKyle2;51350737]Just like that, the K-12 kids for the next four(maybe eight) years will be creationist, climate change denying, trickle-down economic idiots. The potential of an entire generation wasted.[/QUOTE] How many kids blindly believe everything they're told in school, though? I sure didn't.

[QUOTE=Ardosos;51350876]How many kids blindly believe everything they're told in school, though? I sure didn't.[/QUOTE] A lot of kids who don't have the critical thinking or skeptic mentality that you or I do. From my own experience schools just teach you to take tests, repeat everything you're told and to not question the teachers otherwise they get insulted that I don't gobble up everything they say.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;51350322]A machine can replace a lot of the initiators in the creative industry however. Currently it's possible for various media fields to not have to come up with ideas themselves. They can use machines, computer algorithms designed to analyse what's hot, what's not and spit out a pretty decent idea for a safe money maker. All through analysis of purchasing trends and social media (we're seeing a resurgence in 20-minutes-into-the-future shooters right now because that theme took off again on social media with all these discussion about how we're entering a cyberpunk future now with all the cyber espionage and warfare going on for example, maybe not 100% accurate, but as an example I think it's fine). Generation of game assets and mechanics is still something humans would have to do. Manipulating the cameras and filling acting roles is something humans would have to do too. But machines can handle creative work for us now by making educated guesses on what we'd like to see as a population.[/QUOTE] Meh, what you're describing is more the job of big publisher execs than they are the actual creative team's responsibility. The setting and genre of a game alone don't make a game good or attractive.

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