• Jerry Seinfeld: Political Correctness Will Destroy Comedy
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[QUOTE=Winner;47911826]that's not how that works[/QUOTE] So you aren't putting every White Straight Male into a big group and saying that they are Privileged Sexist and Racist people? While saying that they can't voice their opinion due to it? [QUOTE=Zukriuchen;47911800]who's "you guys" seriously who the hell is saying that [editline]9th June 2015[/editline] i mean what[/QUOTE] You guys as in the people saying White Men have more Privileges and their opinion doesn't matter due to it.
[QUOTE=Xonax;47911843]So you aren't putting every White Straight Male into a big group and saying that they are Privileged Sexist and Racist people? While saying that they can't voice their opinion due to it? You guys as in the people saying White Men have more Privileges and their opinion doesn't matter due to it.[/QUOTE] Hey definitions people, what do you call this one? I call em, Social Injustice Warriors. Ess-Eye-Double-You. Tables have turned this time, yes sir.
[QUOTE=Xonax;47911843]You guys as in the people saying White Men have more Privileges and their opinion doesn't matter due to it.[/QUOTE] yes but WHO nobody in this thread is saying that you dolt
[QUOTE=Crash155;47910986]this is just verbal diarrhea[/QUOTE] This whole thread. [editline]9th June 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Xonax;47911843] You guys as in the people saying White Men have more Privileges and their opinion doesn't matter due to it.[/QUOTE] What are you even saying?
[QUOTE=thisispain;47910958][img]http://static01.nyt.com/images/2008/06/23/arts/Carlin390.jpg[/img] Hey, tell me how a bunch of people trying to defend great comedy don't have a single funny bone between them to share.[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;PdtHZ_6oz9Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdtHZ_6oz9Q[/video] George Carlin disagrees with you on everything thisispain
George Carlin is six feet under ground, so what if he disagrees with me. Plus he was always honest about why he told awful jokes, anyway. He said other people were stupid enough to laugh at them.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;47911857]yes but WHO nobody in this thread is saying that you dolt[/QUOTE] These two guys (I suggest going to Winner's post to see the context as he is replying to a poster) [QUOTE=Winner;47909113]excuse me what "racist shit" have you had to deal with as a white male[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Winner;47909187]well that sucks man and i'm sorry so it applies to you less, but understand that the majoirty of white people in america are inherently at a social and professional advantage bc of their race - and that's definitely the case for jerry seinfeld[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Rocket;47908989]It does. Being white means you have different experiences in life than people of other races. Commenting about how racism in comedy isn't a big deal while never being affected by it is pretty dumb.[/QUOTE] But I will be honest though, I thought there was a bit more I might have misinterpreted a couple, and Winner doesn't seem to have any more posts like the example I gave so that may be considered cherry picking? I am not sure. But those are examples on possible some people but more so what I am trying to say, with how some people in here are being racist against White Males.
really not sure how you turn "whites have a social and economical advantage on average" (which is true btw) into "whites are racist, sexist and their opinions don't matter"
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;47911960]really not sure how you turn "whites have a social and economical advantage on average" (which is true btw) into "whites are racist, sexist and their opinions don't matter"[/QUOTE] Some SJWs tend to use it as a reason to backup their claims that White Straight Males opinions don't count.
[QUOTE=Xonax;47912012]Some SJWs tend to use it as a reason to backup their claims that White Straight Males opinions don't count.[/QUOTE] very interesting though i can't see how that's relevant
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;47912033]very interesting though i can't see how that's relevant[/QUOTE] It's relevant to some people saying exactly that, basically they are being racist. Lemme give you an example of reversing it. White men are a bunch of stupid idiots in every way and they should just die. That wouldn't be considered racist since I am saying it against a White Male right? Okay now then let me change one word. Black Men are a bunch of stupid idiots in every way and they should just die. I would be labeled as the Biggest racist known to mankind. So explain to me how one is not racist but the other is? There are no different except for one word. [editline]9th June 2015[/editline] Anyway we are getting derailed, Jerry is right, with more people being PC, the less jokes you can say without risking your career.
this whole thread is a plane crash of people defending offensive jokes [editline]9th June 2015[/editline] sensationalist headlines in a nutshell I assume
At this point i am convinced that the only reason this thread sint locked yet is because mods hope to get maxofstd to post here so they can perma him again
[QUOTE=Kinglah Crab;47911796]i am sjw tron and comedy is over [editline]9th June 2015[/editline][/QUOTE] At this point I'm pretty sure you're just trolling, just report him and move on people.
i'm not sure what's going on here but here's my thoughts. Jokes are jokes. if you don't intend to hurt anyone's feelings then who gives a shit.
[QUOTE=Xonax;47912072]It's relevant to some people saying exactly that, basically they are being racist. Lemme give you an example of reversing it. White men are a bunch of stupid idiots in every way and they should just die. That wouldn't be considered racist since I am saying it against a White Male right? Okay now then let me change one word. Black Men are a bunch of stupid idiots in every way and they should just die. I would be labeled as the Biggest racist known to mankind. So explain to me how one is not racist but the other is? There are no different except for one word.[/QUOTE] Yeah ok that's still not relevant Winner wasn't saying you can't be racist against whites, he was doubting that the guy was really as much of a victim as he was claiming because other than some stereotypical "kill all white males" internet posts (which people give way more importance to than they should), whites face next to zero discrimination in real life. Like come the fuck on, if you seriously think some radical shit posted by random nobodies on the internet is as bad as the real everyday discrimination most minorities face I suggest you take the advice most people give to those so called SJWs and quit being offended over petty shit.
Always liked the idea that the more people use a word in jest/outside of its original meaning, the word loses its power, see faggot, nigger, poofter, etc. and how they're thrown around at random ass people nowadays, hell, bitch and bastard used to be up there. Also speaking of comedians, always liked John Valby/Dr Dirty's routine, a lovely product of the vietnam war. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6XMoP_Ligs[/media] Speaking of Valby, always found it funny that these people trying to win at being offended forgets that there's tiers of white people too when it comes to racism and bigotry. Italians, Irishmen, and especially Poles who still have a hard fucking time outside of Poland due to the stereotypes that even mainstream media likes to rant about.
[QUOTE=Xonax;47912072]It's relevant to some people saying exactly that, basically they are being racist. Lemme give you an example of reversing it. White men are a bunch of stupid idiots in every way and they should just die. That wouldn't be considered racist since I am saying it against a White Male right? Okay now then let me change one word. Black Men are a bunch of stupid idiots in every way and they should just die. I would be labeled as the Biggest racist known to mankind. So explain to me how one is not racist but the other is? There are no different except for one word. [editline]9th June 2015[/editline] Anyway we are getting derailed, Jerry is right, with more people being PC, the less jokes you can say without risking your career.[/QUOTE] haha what!? every single thing you posted in this thread apart from that last line has been completely irrelevant
My head hurts from the stupid shit going on in this thread. The fuck are you talking about Xonax?
[QUOTE=J!NX;47911404]It's always painful to watch these threads all of these people arguing over literally nothing, it's absolutely crazy and then it hits 20 pages, or a few days pass, and you read all of it, and it's just, the most poetically idiotic thing ever, you look at all the bans all warm and smug, it's a good feeling, people get so BALLISTIC.[/QUOTE] Dude what? I mean fair enough most threads in FP usually do end up being shitstorms but are we even reading the same thread? The first couple of pages were a bit iffy maybe, but so far I've seen nothing that would make this thread painful. And this being a forum people arguing over stuff is basically what we are supposed to be doing, what is the point of posting if we were all going to agree on the same point? We even had an informative discussion/description on semantics (thanks thisispain) that taught me things I did not consider. More on topic, I don't understand the defensiveness in some of the posts here. I know what I like in comedy, I know which comedians I enjoy and which ones I don't. I don't try to justify why or how I like them though. Whatever floats my boat floats my boat and if people do not like it, it is not a reflection on my tastes. Why is someone calling out what you find funny inappropriate, racist, sexist or whatever (whether it is is beside the point) mean so much? Why is comedians going for PC comedy get so much flak? If that is what the audience wants, if that is what makes them money who the fuck cares. If this environment of PCness (which I honestly can't see that much) is so toxic, then surely an opposing camp will emerge that you can find whatever sort of comedy you want in.
I actually worry for what is becoming of our society. I'm talking genuine worry. It's not getting any better and you can offend someone just by looking at them which being offended is now the worst thing in the world. It's just a disagreement. Another saying that drives me insane is "Don't judge me". Since when did the word judge become negative? It pretty much means to make a decision from the evidence. So if you're fat and I look at you and go "you're fat" as my judgment, I'm not wrong and I might change my mind when you show me some evidence you aren't fat. But I'm sorry. You're fat, You're ugly, I don't like you, and I wanna have sex with you because I'm attracted to you.
[QUOTE=Xonax;47912072] So explain to me how one is not racist but the other is? There are no different except for one word.[/QUOTE] "i like to eat cake" "i like to eat babies"
[QUOTE=The Janitor;47912423]I actually worry for what is becoming of our society. I'm talking genuine worry. It's not getting any better and you can offend someone just by looking at them which being offended is now the worst thing in the world. It's just a disagreement. Another saying that drives me insane is "Don't judge me". Since when did the word judge become negative? It pretty much means to make a decision from the evidence. So if you're fat and I look at you and go "you're fat" as my judgment, I'm not wrong and I might change my mind when you show me some evidence you aren't fat. But I'm sorry. You're fat, You're ugly, I don't like you, and I wanna have sex with you because I'm attracted to you.[/QUOTE] [quote=Richard J. Needham]The person who is brutally honest enjoys the brutality quite as much as the honesty. Possibly more.[/quote]
[QUOTE=VaultBoi;47910535]this is objectively wrong but ok[/QUOTE] how the fuck could shitposting ever change reality or history? im serious
[QUOTE=CapellanCitizen;47912583][/QUOTE] I just don't like how shit humans are becoming. Seriously. It's more okay to be dumb than ever and I'm not talking book smarts dumb, just being a hindrance to others because you feel you are allowed to be. There are people who's day involves calling other people out on making them feel bad instead of developing some thick skin and doing what they might be passionate about they just whine. Meanwhile people "live for the weekend" with no prospects and simply complain they have no money every monday morning. We live easy fucking lives compared to some people in the past and the present yet we bitch and moan like it's primary school because someone hurt our feelings. The world is a pretty dark place and you actually have to try to make light of it which I strive to do, but it's really hard when everyone just wants to create some kind of conflict with each other and it's a bit of a bummer. Also, fuck Richard J. Needham. Old white guy should check his privilege.
[QUOTE=The Janitor;47912423]I actually worry for what is becoming of our society. I'm talking genuine worry. It's not getting any better and you can offend someone just by looking at them which being offended is now the worst thing in the world. It's just a disagreement. Another saying that drives me insane is "Don't judge me". Since when did the word judge become negative? It pretty much means to make a decision from the evidence. So if you're fat and I look at you and go "you're fat" as my judgment, I'm not wrong and I might change my mind when you show me some evidence you aren't fat. But I'm sorry. You're fat, You're ugly, I don't like you, and I wanna have sex with you because I'm attracted to you.[/QUOTE] I'm seeing a ton of evidence here that you're an asshole so there's that
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;47912656]I'm seeing a ton of evidence here that you're an asshole so there's that[/QUOTE] Yer champ, you know me too well. If that's what you think it's okay though.
[QUOTE=The Janitor;47912660]Yer champ, you know me too well.[/QUOTE] Hey I just looked at you and thought "you're a dick" as my judgement. It was a decision based on evidence. I'm not wrong and I might change my mind when you show me some evidence you're not a dick.
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;47912664]Hey I just looked at you and thought "you're a dick" as my judgement. It was a decision based on evidence. I'm not wrong and I might change my mind when you show me some evidence you're not a dick.[/QUOTE] Showing any would kind of ruin it though. It'd feel like I'm working for approval. In all honesty I probably am a bit of an asshole though. But I won't write a blog about you abusing me that's for sure.
[QUOTE=The Janitor;47912423] But I'm sorry. You're fat, You're ugly, I don't like you, and I wanna have sex with you because I'm attracted to you.[/QUOTE] stealing this ultimate pick up line. no but really, you're looking at shit on a real superficial level. like, that whole don't judge me cos i'm fat thing isn't to prevent people from calling them fat. it's to prevent people from making baseless character judgement just cos they are fat. like "oh what a fat pig i bet she's a lazy cow and eats cake for breakfast" [editline]9th June 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=The Janitor;47912654]I just don't like how shit humans are becoming. Seriously. It's more okay to be dumb than ever and I'm not talking book smarts dumb, just being a hindrance to others because you feel you are allowed to be. There are people who's day involves calling other people out on making them feel bad instead of developing some thick skin and doing what they might be passionate about they just whine. Meanwhile people "live for the weekend" with no prospects and simply complain they have no money every monday morning. We live easy fucking lives compared to some people in the past and the present yet we bitch and moan like it's primary school because someone hurt our feelings. The world is a pretty dark place and you actually have to try to make light of it which I strive to do, but it's really hard when everyone just wants to create some kind of conflict with each other and it's a bit of a bummer. Also, fuck Richard J. Needham. Old white guy should check his privilege.[/QUOTE] oh you don't actually go outside nvm here's a great quote for u by another old white guy “It is the individual who is not interested in his fellow men who has the greatest difficulties in life and provides the greatest injury to others. It is from among such individuals that all human failures spring" you should probably try to develop an interest in other people which doesn't amount to you scoffing and thinking you're better.
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