• Jerry Seinfeld: Political Correctness Will Destroy Comedy
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[QUOTE=Rocket;47908932]Why does it matter that he's jewish? He's still an idiot.[/QUOTE] maybe because his one and only argument that he is white when he's not?
[QUOTE=Rocket;47908989]It does. Being white means you have different experiences in life than people of other races. Commenting about how racism in comedy isn't a big deal while never being affected by it is pretty dumb.[/QUOTE] So wait am I supposed to ignore all the racist shit given to me as a white person by others of different ethnicities just because I'm white? "While never being affected by it" my ass.
[QUOTE=Rocket;47908989]It does. Being white means you have different experiences in life than people of other races. Commenting about how racism in comedy isn't a big deal while never being affected by it is pretty dumb.[/QUOTE] Obvious logical fallacy.
[QUOTE=Rocket;47909011]And what, you can say any different? "I'm smart, because I think racism is OK!"[/QUOTE] I'd rather question things and evaluate situations rather than blindly charge against it in the name of progressiveness, which funny enough is the MO of political correctness.
I don't think young college students are too PC I think they're just tired of being told what they ought to do. We're being shafted already by everyone involved in the college process
[QUOTE=Rocket;47909033]How is that relevant? No.[/QUOTE] That's why I'm asking, I don't see why it's relevant at all but you and others keep bringing it up
[QUOTE=Rocket;47909033]Don't post comedian's opinions like they're facts. They're not any less racist just because they're funny.[/QUOTE] They aren't any less right because they tell jokes.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8csVDqs3MDM[/media] I love what Bill Burr has to say about this Comedians shouldn't ever be afraid of offending audiences with their jokes, as soon as you become afraid that is when comedy dies. When I think of Chris Rock and I think of Jerry Seinfeld I get a feeling there is a money issue behind their complaining that they won't admit to.
[QUOTE=Rocket;47909044]Because you're only against racism because you don't think it through? There is no institutional racism against white people. How?[/QUOTE] The origin of an argument is irrelevant to its validity. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem[/url]
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;47909026]So wait am I supposed to ignore all the racist shit given to me as a white person by others of different ethnicities just because I'm white? "While never being affected by it" my ass.[/QUOTE] some black people called me a cracker once, reverse racism is real
[QUOTE=Rocket;47909033] You can be Jewish and white though. [/QUOTE] seinfeld is half syrian jewish and half ukrainian jewish he's semitic, not white next
[QUOTE=Rocket;47909055]Because white people saying that things aren't offensive is stupid when they aren't harmed by it.[/QUOTE] So like I said, if I were black and I said that it wasn't offensive my opinion would have more merit?
[QUOTE=Rocket;47909044]Because you're only against racism because you don't think it through?[/QUOTE] Comedy = racism, you heard it here folks.
[QUOTE=Rocket;47909044]There is no institutional racism against white people.[/QUOTE] Doesn't matter, because: [quote=Rocket]Racist jokes are still racist. [/quote] Right
[QUOTE=Van-man;47909072]Comedy = racism, you heard it here folks.[/QUOTE] who said this
[QUOTE=Untouch;47909065]seinfeld is half syrian jewish and half ukrainian jewish he's semitic, not white next[/QUOTE] Qualifying Seinfeld as white is important for Rocket because otherwise he has to engage in psychoanalysis to diagnose him with "internalized racism" or something else. This all stems from Rocket accepting a fallacious base assumption: that the origins of an argument are important.
[QUOTE=Rocket;47909003]And people can complain about that. And so on. Getting all flustered because too many people are calling you racist for being racist is dumb. Perpetuating the casual racism prevalent in our society affects people whether or not they watch it. Racist jokes are still racist.[/QUOTE] yeah but making fun of something that needs to be made fun of is not racist. making fun of ridiculous grills of black rappers is not racist, it's humour. making fun of white trash people beating their wifes is not racist, it's humour.
These fuckers ruined any chance of Curb coming back [video=youtube;VONoYWxSAsI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VONoYWxSAsI[/video] [video=youtube;fs0FYyzkgT4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs0FYyzkgT4[/video] [video=youtube;3uKubwD1kaA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uKubwD1kaA[/video] [video=youtube;uGkLjfPWqeI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGkLjfPWqeI[/video] There's no way this could air without the Jezebels and The Daily Beasts of the world having a fit.
[QUOTE=Rocket;47909003]Perpetuating the casual racism prevalent in our society affects people whether or not they watch it. Racist jokes are still racist.[/QUOTE] This completely ignores the role of comedy, and comedians in society. Comedy is a tool for which to observe the absurdities and strange things within a culture, through a lighter lens. Why do you think people laugh at racist jokes like that? Do you think it's because they're racist? If you honestly think that than I'm sorry, you're wrong. People laugh because it's a way of looking at things from a light you normally wouldn't that emphasizes how absurd and ridiculous viewpoints and events and actions can be, such as the Chris Rock piece posted earlier in the thread about bussing in the 1970's.
[QUOTE=Rocket;47909078]For one, are you really going to be that guy who tries to triumph over people by pointing out logical fallcies? If so, FALLACY FALLACY! Anyways, it is relevant. He's arguing from a position of "it's not offensive" even though he's never been in a position where he has being on the business end of institutional racism or sexism.[/QUOTE] I never even said you were incorrect I just pointed out that you were using a fallacy lol do you disagree or not? Either way, Seinfeld is Jewish so you can bet your ass he has been on the receiving end of institutional racism.
[QUOTE=Kinglah Crab;47909063]some black people called me a cracker once, reverse racism is real[/QUOTE] I've been fucked with by different groups of black and hispanic descent, living in Southern California. hahaha so funny
Actually come to think of it when the fuck has Jerry Seinfeld EVER been outside of the PC range? Why the fuck is he complaining? How often does he have to go through what it's like to offend an ENTIRE audience? The dude is a fucking multi-millionaire cause he understood that if you aren't PC you won't make as much money.
so let me get this straight saying someone's opinion is worth more based on their race isn't judging someone based on their race
[QUOTE=Rocket;47909091][B]Quit it with your fallacy stuff and actually understand what I'm writing.[/B][/QUOTE] Help, somebody call the authorities, I can't deal with all this irony alone.
[QUOTE=Rocket;47909087]Yeah, it would.[/QUOTE] So you're judging my opinion based on my race... okay noted
[QUOTE=Rocket;47909087]But they're not racist against white people. I know someone is going to link me to a dictionary about this, but I'm sorry, you're wrong.[/QUOTE] How is it not racist to assume my life is better than another person, again just because I'm white, because "oh my view of society".
When has Seinfeld ever been non-PC? Legit question I can't remember
[QUOTE=Rocket;47909105]Anti-semitism is not racism since it's not dependant on race. Judaism is a religion and anti-semitists hate all people of the religion, not semitic jews. Despite the name.[/QUOTE] Troll or horribly misinformed? I'm going to put $20 on troll since you admitted that your argument was fallacious but didn't seem to care.
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;47909026]So wait am I supposed to ignore all the racist shit given to me as a white person by others of different ethnicities just because I'm white? "While never being affected by it" my ass.[/QUOTE] no you are supposed to acknowledge that black/ethnic/asian assholes are assholes not matter their ethnicity. they are assholes because they are dumb idiots, not because they are a "different race"
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;47909118]When has Seinfeld ever been non-PC? Legit question I can't remember[/QUOTE] Seinfeld
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