• Jerry Seinfeld: Political Correctness Will Destroy Comedy
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[QUOTE=Crash155;47909653]orange you glad i didn't say banana?[/QUOTE] that's racist
[QUOTE=valkery;47908595]Not just him. Chris Rock and others have said the same thing. I think they are kinda right and wrong at the same time. Yeah, it'll kill traditional comedy -the type comedians of their generation created- but at the same time it'll give rise to an alternative form of comic. See Amy Schumer for example. Or Aziz Ansari. Not quite the same as Seinfeld or Pryor or Louis C.K., but still funny to a wide range of people.[/QUOTE] Aziz Ansari is pretty funny, but for some reason he comes off to me as a PC cocksucker who just appeals to people who are overly PC.
[QUOTE=catbarf;47909381]Now hold up, there [I]is[/I] a legitimate issue with professors and colleges being too afraid of causing offense that they censor education to avoid upsetting feelings. In an academic context, that kind of provocation is an important part of learning, and you could argue that there is a cultural shift that is damaging. But comedians complaining that off-color jokes aren't being tolerated anymore is essentially the same reactionary conservative position we've seen for decades, where the older generation whines that they can't be insensitive like was acceptable in their day. It's the milder, concealed-in-pretend-legitimacy version of grandpa sitting on his porch complaining that you can't call those uppity blacks 'negroes' anymore. Times have changed. Jokes that were considered acceptable are now considered off-color. The low-hanging fruit of using sex or race or gender or sexual orientation essentially as a punchline isn't quite as tolerated. That 'something' is a whole lot of hubbub over little of substance. Despite the dire warnings and doomsaying, nothing came of it. The 90s did not end with the Liberal Thought Police subsuming the public consciousness and the 2010s won't end with goose-stepping, privilege-checking students destroying free speech in the name of equality. There's a legitimate discussion here in [I]some[/I] respects as I suggested above, but it's buried under miles and miles of thinly-veiled political sparring and ridiculous hyperbole.[/QUOTE] No one is holding a gun to a college dean's head and forcing them to cancel a guest lecture or not hire a specific individual with a controversial background. Students use their free speech rights to voice objections to a particular speaker. College chooses to either listen to those concerns or not. Many colleges choose to ignore students' concerns and proceed anyway. Some do not, to cut back on negative PR. It's no different than GamerGate's semi-successful campaign to silence web sites which express viewpoints GGers are opposed to by attacking advertisers. Advertisers have to decide if the complaints are enough to pull out of websites that are contrary to the company's goals.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;47909393]Tell me a joke that doesn't base itself off of the basic premise of pointing something out and commenting on it[/QUOTE] You should see the Comedians of Comedy, one of the best parts is when Maria Bamford just screams like a pterodactyl for like a good solid two minutes.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;47909671] It's no different than GamerGate's semi-successful campaign to silence web sites which express viewpoints GGers are opposed to by attacking advertisers. Advertisers have to decide if the complaints are enough to pull out of websites that are contrary to the company's goals.[/QUOTE] I'm never going to forgive you for this.
Hell, even this forum is polluted with PC crap.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;47909691]Hell, even this forum is polluted with PC crap.[/QUOTE] Majority of people are against the notion of PC against jokes, look at the ratings.
Why do all the misinformed shit posters come out in threads like these?
Okay, but how many of you are just using "Political Correctness(tm, registered trade mark of Dinesh D'Souza)" as a commercially-safe form of rebellion in a world where there are no alternatives to late-stage consumer capitalism? Pretty convenient how all of these battlegrounds for political correctness involve consumer products, hmm...
[QUOTE=Kinglah Crab;47908776]people calling out comedians for saying offensive garbage is destructive and ignorant, got it[/QUOTE] Oh yeah, here's a list of all the offensive things Jerry Seinfeld has said in his gigs:
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;47909691]Hell, even this forum is polluted with PC crap.[/QUOTE] ugh... not those fuckin SJWs
[QUOTE=Govna;47909573][i]gyp•sy (jip-see) n. (pl. -sies) 1. a member of a nomadic people, now mainly in Europe and the United States 2. their language, Romany 3. a person who lives like a gypsy[/i] Oxford American Dictionary, 1980 Please find me a dictionary with which defines gypsies as "thieving dirty scum snakes or something like that". This conspiracy on dictionary definitions is ridiculous.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3030350/Spain-Gypsy-groups-protest-swindler-dictionary-definition.html[/url] there u go bb it was swindler! not thieving dirty scum snakes sorry.
so what brought this on? are the dentists getting uppity again?
In a nutshell: If you can't learn to laugh at yourself, then why get comedy? These "PC" people can't seem to learn how to laugh and live a little. What's next, we get so PC that comedians/funny people have to resort to knock-knock jokes?
[QUOTE=thisispain;47909719]Okay, but how many of you are just using "Political Correctness(tm, registered trade mark of Dinesh D'Souza)" as a commercially-safe form of rebellion in a world where there are no alternatives to late-stage consumer capitalism? Pretty convenient how all of these battlegrounds for political correctness involve consumer products, hmm...[/QUOTE] oh no you didn't
[QUOTE=valkery;47908595]Not just him. Chris Rock and others have said the same thing. I think they are kinda right and wrong at the same time. Yeah, it'll kill traditional comedy -the type comedians of their generation created- but at the same time it'll give rise to an alternative form of comic. See Amy Schumer for example. Or Aziz Ansari. Not quite the same as Seinfeld or Pryor or Louis C.K., but still funny to a wide range of people.[/QUOTE] Neither Schumer or Ansari are funny.
[QUOTE=Kinglah Crab;47908614]old white man upset he's not allowed to say racist shit anymore. more at 12[/QUOTE] i dont understand your joke seinfelds acts are squeaky clean, hes probably one of the cleanest comedians
[QUOTE=kila58;47909716]Why do all the misinformed shit posters come out in threads like these?[/QUOTE] Because the misinformed shitposters here hear the words 'political correctness', and thus go in a frenzy mode in protecting their rhetoric based purely on feels instead of some real facts.
Schumer is alright, but she talks about cum falling out of her vagina so she's hardly alternative. A true alt. female comedian would be Maria Bamford, she even makes a jab at Seinfeld: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjPKZDosBtY[/media]
[QUOTE=Rocket;47909119]But you are not affected by institutional racism. You have been annoyed by people treating you differently because you're white. That's not racism.[/QUOTE] HOLY SHIT REALLY
[URL=https://www.facebook.com/Jezebel/posts/10152748771642434?comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22O%22%7D]The Jezebel Facebook comment section is cancerous.[/URL]
[QUOTE=Levithan;47908601]B-but making fun of minorities is all I know :c[/QUOTE] Yeah, everyone knows Seinfeld is that RACY SON OF A BITCH THAT DOESN'T KNOW HIS LIMITS! He's basically the Richard Prior of comedy, and you're a special snowflake that is toooootally spot on.
[QUOTE=Monkah;47909873][URL=https://www.facebook.com/Jezebel/posts/10152748771642434?comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22O%22%7D]The Jezebel Facebook comment section is cancerous.[/URL][/QUOTE] man what a great comment section
[QUOTE=AfroNick;47909767]so what brought this on? are the dentists getting uppity again?[/QUOTE] woah watch your tone you [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ythrdCsOFJU"]anti-dentite[/URL]
i really don't think comedy is at any sort of risk because politically incorrect jokes sell way more, it's as simple as that like, i really can't understand how anyone can seriously believe that political correctness is going to kill comedy when everytime there's a pc push (which are almost always exaggerated and blown out of proportion), the anti-pc one is way stronger
[QUOTE=Monkah;47909873][URL=https://www.facebook.com/Jezebel/posts/10152748771642434?comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22O%22%7D]The Jezebel Facebook comment section is cancerous.[/URL][/QUOTE] what the fuck they're all literally college age that's hilarious [editline]8th June 2015[/editline] if only they brushed up on history, this same exact thing happened back in the late 80's/90's except it was ultra right wing conservatives pushing for politically correct comedy.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;47909896]i really don't think comedy is at any sort of risk because politically incorrect jokes sell way more, it's as simple as that like, i really can't understand how anyone can seriously believe that political correctness is going to kill comedy when everytime there's a pc push (which are almost always exaggerated and blown out of proportion), the anti-pc one is way stronger[/QUOTE] I think the problem here is you're seeing it at a college level, when historically it's been with the older generation. It's a weird hint at something that's grown bigger and kind of scarier, honestly.
[QUOTE=BenJammin';47909439]I am not your personal comedian. There is visual humor, absurdity, surrealistic humor, things like that. Where basically the humor doesn't come from any sort of base of commentary, but rather the humor comes from within itself. Sometimes it's just what it is, without any implied message originally intended, but the beauty is that your brain still gives off a function that makes you laugh.[/QUOTE] So when I was talking about stand up comedy, you change the goal posts to whatever comedy is in general? okay. bad argument.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;47909691]Hell, even this forum is polluted with PC crap.[/QUOTE] Define the PC you're seeing on this forum.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;47909918]So when I was talking about stand up comedy, you change the goal posts to whatever comedy is in general? okay. bad argument.[/QUOTE] Nice, except you said "humor itself;" if anyone "moved the goal posts" it was you.
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