Millions sign petition urging Electoral College to elect Hillary Clinton
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[QUOTE=Fox Powers;51356934]I'm not exactly up to speed with how America works with this stuff
So if Hillary gets voted by this Electoral College, does she still have a chance to get the presidency or something?[/QUOTE]
it's almost garunteed to not happen, but yes, if the electoral college votes for hillary, she will become the presidency despite trump winning more than 270 in the general election
[QUOTE=Steel & Iron;51356869]Got Target in Australia to pull GTA5 from shelves, off the top of my head.[/QUOTE]
why've you got a shelf on your head
[QUOTE=/dev/sda1;51356915][url=http://www.snopes.com/mike-pence-supported-gay-conversion-therapy/]lol[/url][/QUOTE]
"Mike Pence funded gay conversion therapy"
[t]http://i.imgur.com/U6QKjTl.jpg[/t]
[I]DID YOU MEAN THAT MIKE PENCE SUPPORTS GAY CONVERSATION, WHICH INVOLVES THE USE OF ELECTROSHOCK THERAPY?[/I]
[I]IN THAT CASE, YOU'RE WRONG. HE DIDN'T SAY HE SUPPORTS GAY CONVERSION THERAPY, HE DIDN'T SAY THAT HE SUPPORTS ELECTROSHOCK THERAPY.[/I]
(but he did advocate for it)
[url]http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2016/jul/28/gavin-newsom/true-mike-pence-advocated-conversion-therapy/[/url]
[QUOTE=Judas;51356885]trump literally did not win the majority of votes[/QUOTE]
Tbh that's not a fair assessment. Many people in non-swing states don't bother to vote as their literally doesn't matter. Although it would work both ways, I think we would have a much much higher turnout if it was a simple majority.
You can't change the rules after they didn't work in your favor. Pretty funny how everyone suddenly gets upset when something that everyone knew could happen happens.
[QUOTE=Fox Powers;51356934]I'm not exactly up to speed with how America works with this stuff
So if Hillary gets voted by this Electoral College, does she still have a chance to get the presidency or something?[/QUOTE]
She would be the POTUS.
[QUOTE=Judas;51356928]so literally actually what I said? diverting fundings to conversion therapy for homosexuals?[/QUOTE]
[quote]WHAT'S FALSE: Pence never stated that he supported the use of electric shocks or "gay conversion" therapy.
[/quote]
changing how one practices sex is not equal to conversion therapy?
it says changing their sexual behavior... not orientation.
[QUOTE=Judas;51356841]the future vice president of the united states of america tried to divert AIDS funding to conversion therapy for homosexuals[/QUOTE]
So are you afraid Pence is gonna convert all the gays? I don't exactly see how that makes it dangerous for anyone seeing as [B][I]he is the vice president and not actually in any position of real power.[/I][/B]
[QUOTE=Fox Powers;51356934]I'm not exactly up to speed with how America works with this stuff
So if Hillary gets voted by this Electoral College, does she still have a chance to get the presidency or something?[/QUOTE]
from what I've read, the electoral college CAN change their votes before january and let someone else become president, regardless of any earlier outcomes. but they won't. it's never happened before and would cause extreme outrage throughout the whole US. trump won 'fair and square' so people will have to wait and see what he does, it's all you can do.
[QUOTE=Judas;51356885]trump literally did not win the majority of votes[/QUOTE]
We're not a democracy, we're a republic, or a representative democracy.
[QUOTE=/dev/sda1;51356948]changing how one practices sex is not equal to conversion therapy?
it says changing their sexual behavior... not orientation.[/QUOTE]
that's literally [i]therapy[/i] that is intended to [i]convert[/i] homosexuals to straight
that has also been proven to never work, and has a MASSIVE rate of suicide amongst people (especially minors) that go through it
[QUOTE=Judas;51356958]that's literally [i]therapy[/i] that is intended to [i]convert[/i] homosexuals to straight
that has also been proven to never work, and has a MASSIVE rate of suicide amongst people (especially minors) that go through it[/QUOTE]
where does it say conversion
[QUOTE=SurfLapras;51356743]There's a difference between being a sore loser and fearing for your life.[/QUOTE]
Trump is going to murder you?
[QUOTE=/dev/sda1;51356948]changing how one practices sex is not equal to conversion therapy?
it says changing their sexual behavior... not orientation.[/QUOTE]
So if I take therapy, does that mean I won't fuck men but I would still be gay?
It's interesting that the same people who think the electoral college process is broken because it doesn't work via direct democracy are the same people who don't want direct democracy to override parliamentary sovereignty in the UK with regard to Brexit. Can't have it both ways. Hillary + Brexit or Trump + Remain. Pick your poison.
I can't help but wonder how many people say "The majority were for Clinton by 160,000" but also say that "1.9% (1,250,000 votes) isn't enough of a margin" for Brexit.
[QUOTE=ph:lxyz;51356970]It's interesting that the same people who think the electoral college process is broken because it doesn't work via direct democracy are the same people who don't want direct democracy to override parliamentary sovereignty in the UK with regard to Brexit. Can't have it both ways. Hillary + Brexit or Trump + Remain. Pick your poison.[/QUOTE]
You cheeky ninja fok
[QUOTE=space1;51356950]So are you afraid Pence is gonna convert all the gays? I don't exactly see how that makes it dangerous for anyone seeing as [B][I]he is the vice president and not actually in any position of real power.[/I][/B][/QUOTE]
He has the ear of the president. That's about as close as you can get. theres a reason why he's called the vice-president, not just 'the dude who sits near the president'
[QUOTE=/dev/sda1;51356948]changing how one practices sex is not equal to conversion therapy?
it says changing their sexual behavior... not orientation.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Congress should support the reauthorization of the Ryan White Care Act only after completion of an audit to ensure that federal dollars were no longer being given to [B]organizations that celebrate and encourage the types of behaviors that facilitate the spreading of the HIV virus[/B]. Resources should be directed toward those institutions which provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior.[/QUOTE]
What sexual behavior do you think he's talking about? Hint: It's not bugchasing.
38 faithless electors is a huge number. Never gonna happen.
[QUOTE=/dev/sda1;51356965]where does it say conversion[/QUOTE]
that's essentially the definition of conversion
[QUOTE=space1;51356950]So are you afraid Pence is gonna convert all the gays? I don't exactly see how that makes it dangerous for anyone seeing as [B][I]he is the vice president and not actually in any position of real power.[/I][/B][/QUOTE]
haha guys it's not like the [i]vice president of a country[/i] has any power!.
Trump has absolutely no experience running a country, so it stands to reason that he will be deferring to his advisers an awful lot.
Trump also pissed off an awful lot of his party during the election, so again, It make sense for him to start rubber-stamping all of the religious right's harebrained schemes to get back into their good books.
[QUOTE=/dev/sda1;51356965]where does it say conversion[/QUOTE]
do you know the definition of conversion or
[QUOTE=ph:lxyz;51356970]It's interesting that the same people who think the electoral college process is broken because it doesn't work via direct democracy are the same people who don't want direct democracy to override parliamentary sovereignty in the UK with regard to Brexit. Can't have it both ways. Hillary + Brexit or Trump + Remain. Pick your poison.[/QUOTE]
Except that voting directly on policy and voting directly on representatives is not the same thing.
"We lost, so we ask that you forgo democracy so we can get our way"
[QUOTE=srobins;51356967]Trump is going to murder you?[/QUOTE]
Have to remember that up until recently (today?) Trump was saying that he was going to gut the ACA and remove healthcare coverage for many Americans. People on their parents insurance under 26, people with preexisting medical conditions, etc.
Plus the whole temper issue doesn't exactly lend itself to great leadership
[QUOTE=IrishBandit;51356983]Except that voting directly on policy and voting directly on representatives is not the same thing.[/QUOTE]
Sure, but voting on policy in the case of Brexit can still lead to non-movement and a permanent remain status so it amounts to the same thing.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;51356978]that's essentially the definition of conversion[/QUOTE]
ok, but its not necessarily conversion to a different sexual orientation like "praying the gay away" or something. its very vague
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;51356818]Elaborate?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pascall;51356825]Good argument.[/QUOTE]
One of many reasons
[video=youtube;ip3QNCzSsrw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip3QNCzSsrw[/video]
It's a damn good thing she doesn't stand a chance anymore even though that meant Trump getting elected.
[QUOTE=Xubs;51356979]No, she would actually BE the president. Donald Trump is technically not the president-elect of this country as we are speaking, it's just incredibly likely and assumed to be that he will be, because electors vote on behalf of their constituents. Usually. There is nothing that requires them to vote that way, legally.
The election has not truly actually happened yet, it's the public election that has, the one that determines how these electors will consider their vote come December.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Judas;51356939]it's almost garunteed to not happen, but yes, if the electoral college votes for hillary, she will become the presidency despite trump winning more than 270 in the general election[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Biotoxsin;51356944]She would be the POTUS.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Naught;51356952]from what I've read, the electoral college CAN change their votes before january and let someone else become president, regardless of any earlier outcomes. but they won't. it's never happened before and would cause extreme outrage throughout the whole US. trump won 'fair and square' so people will have to wait and see what he does, it's all you can do.[/QUOTE]
Thanks a lot guys, I understand it now
I wonder if Hillary got the vote, would the riots and protest currently going on would lessen up or get worse..
[QUOTE=Biotoxsin;51356991]Have to remember that up until recently (today?) Trump was saying that he was going to gut the ACA and remove healthcare coverage for many Americans. People on their parents insurance under 26, people with preexisting medical conditions, etc.
Plus the whole temper issue doesn't exactly lend itself to great leadership[/QUOTE]
Both of those conditions he already said he was considering keeping when he replaces Obamacare. He never said he was just going to gut it and be done, it's always been repeal and replace.
[QUOTE=Fox Powers;51357013]Thanks a lot guys, I understand it now
I wonder if Hillary got the vote, would the riots and protest currently going on would lessen up or get worse..[/QUOTE]
Trump supporters would be rioting and protesting instead.
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