GOP debates on CNN at 6 and 8pm EST (Wednesday September 16th) - Polidicks

omg carson, it was a yes or no question, should trump not be saying vaccines are bad.

Trump is right, autism has definitely become an epidemic

NO DONALD

also fuck the GOP for tying global warming to short term economic gains, the fucking GAO and PENTAGON are saying this will ruin our economy in the next 30 years

not the anti vax [editline]16th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=sgman91;48699587]That was the worst run and organized debate I've ever seen. If anyone should be ashamed it should be CNN.[/QUOTE] It is a fucking mess. They shouldn't have crammed 11 people into it

[QUOTE=locojaws;48699654]Trump is right, autism has definitely become an epidemic[/QUOTE] Studies that show its because of declining air quality in the environment not a myth that has been debunked a million times [editline]17th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Sableye;48699657]also fuck the GOP for tying global warming to short term economic gains, the fucking GAO and PENTAGON are saying this will ruin our economy in the next 30 years[/QUOTE] They're gonna be crying when the Earth finally shits its self and the economy with it (if they're still alive) I was also surprised that the majority consensus was pro rehab? not what I expected from the drug debate.

"North Korea has a missile capable of hitting us where we stand tonight." Right. Okay. Hand over the pills now, please.

The Jesus of the republicans, Ronald Reagan.

Rosa Parks, the ultimate fuck you to every black person that did the same thing and got no recognition.

[QUOTE=Saxon;48699667]Studies that show its because of declining air quality in the environment not a myth that has been debunked a million times [editline]17th September 2015[/editline] They're gonna be crying when the Earth finally shits its self and the economy with it (if they're still alive) I was also surprised that the majority consensus was pro rehab? not what I expected from the drug debate.[/QUOTE] litterally shiting on regan with those answers, fucking exxon has known since 1977 that climate change is real, to say that the policies proposed won't work is fucking irresponsible when they have refused to even come to the god damn table and work out actual effective policy for 40 fucking years

[QUOTE=Sableye;48699657]also fuck the GOP for tying global warming to short term economic gains, the fucking GAO and PENTAGON are saying this will ruin our economy in the next 30 years[/QUOTE] At least they're not outright denying it. The ones that talked, anyway.

[QUOTE=Anders118;48699682]"North Korea has a missile capable of hitting us where we stand tonight." Right. Okay. Hand over the pills now, please.[/QUOTE] Fiorina's answer earlier, "expand the poland balistic missile defense program!" does she not know that those ABMs don't have a chance in hell defending against a [I]russian[/I] ICBM, its not designed to stop russian ballistic missiles which have active decoys and are the product of 50 years of development, its meant to stop NK and Iranian balistic missiles which are far less sophisticated

Fiorina*

[QUOTE=Sableye;48699734]better than fiona's answer earlier, "expand the poland balistic missile defense program!" does she not know that those ABMs don't have a chance in hell defending against a [I]russian[/I] ICBM, its not designed to stop russian ballistic missiles which have active decoys and are the product of 50 years of development, its meant to stop NK and Iranian balistic missiles which are far less sophisticated[/QUOTE] Russia must not know that considering how much of a fuss they made about it

Trump... Vaccines do NOT and NEVER have caused autism. Correlation does not imply causation, and thousands of medical studies prove there is no link. There shouldn't be a debate anymore, but there is because people are fucking morons and have successfully brought back declining preventable diseases because of anti vax assholes. The fact you have a chance at winning scares the fuck out of me.

[QUOTE=BusterBluth;48699754]Russia must not know that considering how much of a fuss they made about it[/QUOTE] well true, but still the facts are, its a system designed for straight up ballistic missiles, ABMs are very hard to get right, and throwing them against targets they aren't designed for is a sure guarantee that they won't work. i mean our history of balistic missiles next to russia has been laughable, the jupiter missiles that the USSR feared durring the 60s were a joke, they were dangerous, unreliable, and nobody was sure that once fueled they would even lift off, but it still scared them enough to let us use them as bargaining leverage

They're playing the jewish vote pretty hard aren't they.

kasich loves to throw about how he's got bipartisan support in ohio, even though the two houses are 75% republican dominated, most of the county governments are republican, most of the acreage of ohio is republican, except all of the population centers of ohio are not and the whole state has been hugely gerrymandered [editline]16th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Saxon;48699820]They're playing the jewish vote pretty hard aren't they.[/QUOTE] what you don't support israel, or want to renew our annual commitment to israel, or want to move the american embassy from the capital of israel (telaviv) to Jerusalem for some reason, or want to defend israel, or israeli businesses?

[QUOTE=Sableye;48699824] want to move the american embassy from the capital of israel (telaviv) to Jerusalem for some reason, or want to defend israel, or israeli businesses?[/QUOTE] Muh religion.

nothing about carol ichan for any government economy position is good, that guy is bane capital rolled up with enron and dusted with Maryl-lynch

[QUOTE=Pilot1215;48699779]Trump... Vaccines do NOT and NEVER have caused autism. Correlation does not imply causation, and thousands of medical studies prove there is no link. There shouldn't be a debate anymore, but there is because people are fucking morons and have successfully brought back declining preventable diseases because of anti vax assholes. The fact you have a chance at winning scares the fuck out of me.[/QUOTE] He never said that? He called for a spacing of them. In my opinion, too much of anything is bad for you and vaccines are probably no different. I don't see how, when a baby is already heavily sheltered in its first years, it needs a one time dose of everything instead if a few at a time over a year or two. Besides that, I heard a lot of talking, and very few solutions. It's politics as usual and most of the topics mentioned will be bypassed by the next big scare. No kidding here I bet 50% of the things mentioned have already been forgotten.

[QUOTE=VOSK;48699840]Muh religion.[/QUOTE] it just seems so weird and stupid, the embassy of the US [I]should[/I] be in the government center of israel, theres no reason why it shouldn't be [editline]16th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Incoming.;48699848]He never said that? He called for a spacing of them. In my opinion, too much of anything is bad for you and vaccines are probably no different. I don't see how, when a baby is already heavily sheltered in its first years, it needs a one time dose of everything instead if a few at a time over a year or two. Besides that, I heard a lot of talking, and very few solutions. It's politics as usual and most of the topics mentioned will be bypassed by the next big scare. No kidding here I bet 50% of the things mentioned have already been forgotten.[/QUOTE] no he said, he has friends that come to him, tell him their kids just got vaccinated and now they're autistic. if he really believed vaccines don't cause autism, he would not have tried to say autism is rising as well as vaccines, he danced around a direct answer, but i think his position is very very clear, he very much believes vaccines cause autism

-misunderstood and still don't quite understand what you're trying to say-

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[QUOTE=mn_chaos;48699871]No, the immunity has to be refreshed. Don't randomly apply anecdotal logic to things.[/QUOTE] I don't follow, booster shots are fine. I never mentioned booster shots. Hell, I was spaced out a couple years and I've not gotten whooping cough or polio, so it's not the end of the world. Kids at the age of 1-3 are so friggin sheltered [with damn good reason] that spacing essential, highly effective vaccines that I vehemently defend the purpose of will quell fears, lead to a HIGHER vaccination rate through positive reinforcement and a gentler approach and overall end a dangerous debate, one that has led to outbreaks and possibly mutations in the diseases we protected ourselves against.

[QUOTE=OvB;48699874][img]http://i.imgur.com/IdP8Nms.png[/img][/QUOTE] Glad she censored the "F" word, that tweet was almost offensive!

[QUOTE=Incoming.;48699848]He never said that? He called for a spacing of them. In my opinion, too much of anything is bad for you and vaccines are probably no different. I don't see how, when a baby is already heavily sheltered in its first years, it needs a one time dose of everything instead if a few at a time over a year or two. Besides that, I heard a lot of talking, and very few solutions. It's politics as usual and most of the topics mentioned will be bypassed by the next big scare. No kidding here I bet 50% of the things mentioned have already been forgotten.[/QUOTE] Except he clearly does believe it. Do you know what the solution should be? Sticking to the medical professionals making the decisions and not people like Trump. What is currently done is safe and does not cause Autism. Trump disagrees completely with that, and he is wrong.

[QUOTE=Pilot1215;48700019]Except he clearly does believe it. Do you know what the solution should be? Sticking to the medical professionals making the decisions and not people like Trump. What is currently done is safe and does not cause Autism. Trump disagrees completely with that, and he is wrong.[/QUOTE] I can't even understand what rand Paul was saying, you have freedom to decide when to vaccinate your kids, the only limit is that they have all their shots before they enter primary school, that's usually age 5 or 6 in the US, so they can get a shot a year if you are really that paranoid about it, most of the vaccines are safe for 3 year olds, so its a non issue that he had to make up to say something instead of acknowledge how libertarian values have no place in immunology and that the system as it exists is fine

[QUOTE=Pilot1215;48700019]Except he clearly does believe it. Do you know what the solution should be? Sticking to the medical professionals making the decisions and not people like Trump. What is currently done is safe and does not cause Autism. Trump disagrees completely with that, and he is wrong.[/QUOTE] Never said he was right, either. Autism is not caused by vaccines, but I do see how spacing out vaccines over a couple years could be beneficial. For one thing its a great compromise that would tone down a zealous debate. Telling a parent that spacing a vaccine over a limited time span makes you an awful science hating human being like I've seen people involved in similar debates say won't win you any favors and might make people convert to the dreaded "No vaccine" movement. It should be less of a debate of if they should have vaccines or not, and more one of how long is an acceptable time frame. Some say a handful of days, others say a few years, regardless the vaccines should be taken and I have no issue with a concerned parent spacing it over a few years.

[QUOTE=Incoming.;48700147]Never said he was right, either. Autism is not caused by vaccines, but I do see how spacing out vaccines over a couple years could be beneficial. For one thing its a great compromise that would tone down a zealous debate. Telling a parent that spacing a vaccine over a limited time span makes you an awful science hating human being like I've seen people involved in similar debates say won't win you any favors and might make people convert to the dreaded "No vaccine" movement. It should be less of a debate of if they should have vaccines or not, and more one of how long is an acceptable time frame. Some say a handful of days, others say a few years, regardless the vaccines should be taken and I have no issue with a concerned parent spacing it over a few years.[/QUOTE] and thats already how the system works, nobody is forcing parents to do all vaccines at once, it should have been a simple yes/no answer, instead they pandered to the tinfoil hat crowd by trying to say the current system is wrong about this