[QUOTE=Van-man;34758219]You'd need something with a incredibly hard and pointy tip, like a emergency hammer:
[T]http://deluxerv.com/images/Hammer-glass.jpg[/T][/QUOTE]
And this is the reason they recommend people carry one in their cars.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34759561]Not entirely true. If you have winter boots you can smash it with your feet. But if you indeed have nothing at all in your car then you're fucked.[/QUOTE]
Not if there's another inch of ice on the other side of the window.
[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;34759867]Not if there's another inch of ice on the other side of the window.[/QUOTE]How does an inch of ice form on the window of your car? Did someone pour water on it?
[QUOTE=Jsm;34759844]And this is the reason they recommend people carry one in their cars.[/QUOTE]
That or when the car rolls around a couple of times without smashing the windows, but still jamming the doors due the frame damage around them.
And if the battery is somehow damaged or lost during that you can't use the electric windows.
Not to mention it's MUCH faster to just smash the window(s) (unless you had the hammer laying around loose in the car and it got lost during rolling around, so keep it in the glovebox).
[QUOTE=markg06;34755803]Surely surviving off of ice for 2 months would mean he wouldn't have had to excrete?[/QUOTE]
That doesn't mean he had a completely empty stomach and bladder beforehand.
To be honest there should be something that can break windows in every car, I mean who doesn't keep a hammer around for those times when you've got to break a knuckle or ten?
[QUOTE=farmatyr;34756014]This is the car.
[IMG]http://static.vg.no/uploaded/image/2012/2/18/sno2_8334.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
He wasn't trapped in concrete. He could have just kicked the door open and run out.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;34759989]He wasn't trapped in concrete. He could have just kicked the door open and run out.[/QUOTE]
Guess how thick the snow was initially?
[SUB](hint: probably [B]DAMN thick[/B])[/SUB]
Besides if you're in the middle of bumfuck nowhere and gets stuck, the worst you can do is leaving the car and wander off.
[QUOTE=LF9000;34755705]I would go insane being just trapped in a small space with nothing to do, no one to talk to, for two months.
Not to mention the fact that theres no food or bathroom facilities.[/QUOTE]
i'm sure the radio would keep him sane
[QUOTE=Mon;34760101]i'm sure the radio would keep him sane[/QUOTE]
Until the battery runs out, which is about a day's worth at best.
keeping the vehicle on with heat would have created ice on the outside of the windows. there's no way you could break through that.
think about ice cream after you've let it sit out and then put it back in the freezer, it's hard as stone. same applies for snow.
he must've been pretty lucky to even have breathable air, many people die of asphyxiation in avalanches. I'm sure he kept warm (by survival standards) by the inside of his car acting like an igloo, trapping all his body heat.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;34759989]He wasn't trapped in concrete. He could have just kicked the door open and run out.[/QUOTE]
He pretty much was. Unless he was strong enough to kick the window out, he couldn't escape.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;34759989]He wasn't trapped in concrete. He could have just kicked the door open and run out.[/QUOTE]
Have you ever tried getting through thick snow? That stuff piles up, compacts, and ices a bit. It gets impossibly hard to move more than a foot or two of heavily compacted snow. Now try and open a door having to push tons of compacted snow.
That is going to leave a mark on his psychology.
[QUOTE=Gubbinz96;34756372]You do realize that when you do this your chances of surviving in the cold goes down DRAMATICALLY right? That's one of the rules you have to know, when you get seriously snowed in or in an accident way out in the frozen nowhere, leaving your vehicle is a death wish. It is amazing that this guy survived this long and was found.[/QUOTE] It was near Umea, which is a city. Also youcan easily find some random house/cottage in countryside too.
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[QUOTE=Edthefirst;34760277]Have you ever tried getting through thick snow? That stuff piles up, compacts, and ices a bit. It gets impossibly hard to move more than a foot or two of heavily compacted snow. Now try and open a door having to push tons of compacted snow.[/QUOTE] Open/break window.
[QUOTE=oskutin;34756252]Pfft. I would have opened/breaked window and dig myshelf out.[/QUOTE]
Oh, I know what you feel. I lost my my shelf somewhere in the snow too.
[QUOTE=Edthefirst;34760258]Until the battery runs out, which is about a day's worth at best.[/QUOTE] Until he runs out of fuel.
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[QUOTE=scout1;34756741]Yeah I can see you tunneling through the six tons of snow and freezing temperatures and walking all the way back to civilization[/QUOTE] Seriously, 7 tons of snow over car? That only possible when being trapped by avalance...
[QUOTE=Edthefirst;34760258]Until the battery runs out, which is about a day's worth at best.[/QUOTE]
Actually, if the car has fuel, it is charging the battery.
Also, he didn't have mobile phone?
Wasn't he in the middle of the forest? Maybe staying in his car was a willful decision if he didn't think he'd survive else. The doors cold have been frozen shut as well.
[QUOTE=oskutin;34760463]Also, he didn't have mobile phone?[/QUOTE]
If he wasn't found for so long I assume he was in a place where reception was shit if at all.
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Also door lock can freeze too. Happened to someone I know. He couldn't open the door at all cause the key wouldn't even rotate. Though for that to happen the door has to be locked first.
[url]http://www.elisa.fi/kuuluvuus/[/url]
This is mobile network in Finland, by one company. And there's only small dots without it in the nord.
Should be pretty much same than in Sweden.
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[QUOTE=TamTamJam;34760476]Wasn't he in the middle of the forest? Maybe staying in his car was a willful decision if he didn't think he'd survive else. The doors cold have been frozen shut as well.[/QUOTE] He wasn't in Siberia, so there could been about 1-2km to nearest house, if even that.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34760486]If he wasn't found for so long I assume he was in a place where reception was shit if at all.
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Also door lock can freeze too. Happened to someone I know. He couldn't open the door at all cause the key wouldn't even rotate. Though for that to happen the door has to be locked first.[/QUOTE]
Happens quite often with my current car which has a central locking system.
Was rare on my older car though, which was the same make & model as my current but without central locking.
The servo's / electric motors that's part of a central locking system has a tendency to freeze up when it's really damn cold.
That's why you always carry a spare pre-2004 nokia.
[QUOTE=proch;34760460]Actually, if the car has fuel, it is charging the battery.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, if the engine is on.
If the car covered in snow, then the exhaust pipe is likely blocked, and you [I]do not[/I] want to have the engine on when the port designed to blow the deadly gas as far away from you as possible, is blocked.
[QUOTE=Lomme;34755836]Icy what you did there.[/QUOTE]
I Winter how long it took everyone else.
From what I read in this thread, people don't seem to realise how dangerous a snow storm really is. And since he was found on guys riding snow mobiles, it means he was quite a bit away from civilization. [I]He would've perished within the hour if he left that car.[/I]
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Even if he smashed the window he would have quite a trip in front of him. And being already at least a day without proper food, it would be plain stupid.
[QUOTE=Saber15;34760974]Yeah, if the engine is on.
If the car covered in snow, then the exhaust pipe is likely blocked, and you [I]do not[/I] want to have the engine on when the port designed to blow the deadly gas as far away from you as possible, is blocked.[/QUOTE]Wouldn't fumes melt the snow seeing as they're fairly hot? Though indeed if there's a lot of snow it's dangerous.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34761129]Wouldn't fumes melt the snow seeing as they're fairly hot? Though indeed if there's a lot of snow it's dangerous.[/QUOTE]
It'd melt a spherical hole at the exhaust. Don't think it would do much else.
Those who say you need an object to break out side windows : Most of them are made to be broken with your elbow.
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