• Vladimir Putin’s popularity has just hit a 3-year high
    63 replies, posted
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;44251994]Let's see. The Persian Gulf was an invasion of Iraq because Saddam Hussein was a fucking idiot and thought annexing Kuwait was a good idea. idea. [/QUOTE] So Soviet Union or China had the right to invade US in 1970's for war in Vietnam? Edit: Nah, bad example. I'am thinking more about Texas or Hawaii. [QUOTE] And Kosovo? I don't recall any American ground precense in Kosovo, just like Libya. [/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia#Army[/url] I guess you didn't knew. About Lybia, i remember there was a headline about US Marines or regular army taking control of oil fields somewhere in desert.
-snip, seems I got my rigged statistics confused-
[QUOTE=Stopper;44252052]What about everyone here who isn't American?[/QUOTE] Bulgarian imperialists, we still remember your capitalist pig-dog wars of aggression against glorious Serbia in the medieval ages!
[QUOTE=bogdan;44252077]So Soviet Union or China had the right to invade US in 1970's for war in Vietnam?[/QUOTE] I'm not sure you can really compared the Vietnam War to Saddam's blatant power grab in Kuwait. We didn't try annexing Vietnam to the United States, for one. I'm not saying we were justified there, but kind of a weird comparison, no? [quote][URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia#Army[/URL] I guess you didn't knew. [/quote] Right. That was of the Kosovo Force (KFOR), which was a NATO-lead international force, not a U.S. military operation. And that was in response to Serbian forces ethnically cleansing Kosovo Albanians. I also know KFOR was legal under international law, as per the United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244. [quote]About Lybia, i remember there was a headline about US Marines or regular army taking control of oil fields somewhere in desert.[/QUOTE] Maybe, maybe not. Still not annexation, nor a semi-permanent occupation.
[QUOTE=MoralSupport;44252089]You're governments made the decision to go through with this military alliance just as much as we did. Most western nations are just as guilty as the U.S.[/QUOTE] The only reason most nations took part in the war on terrorism is because of political pressure from the U.S. The U.S spearheaded and orchestrated most of the conflicts and dragged their allies along with them to solidify relations via political pressure and other nonsense. To claim that "most western nations are just as guilty" is totally idiotic because it is an attempt to disgracefully shift responsibilities and guilt from the nation in question and is actually downplaying the involvement of the U.S in much of the conflicts that took place in the 21st century.
[QUOTE=MoralSupport;44252186] Some went and some didn't, the ones that didn't, what happened to them?Nothing.[/QUOTE] ...Nothing expect those who died for nothing in a foreign country, just because US was need more fresh meat for an invasion. I mean, it was strictly US plan, why dragging others into your own bullshit?
[QUOTE=MoralSupport;44252186]I'm not trying to downplay our involvement. Germany and France were opposed to the second invasion of Iraq. They were pressured and they refused. Sure they supported Afghanistan, but they avoided a secondwar(Iraq) that could have claimed thousands of their countrymen. Bottom line is whatever kind of pressure we put on them, it was their choice. Some went and some didn't, the ones that didn't, what happened to them?Nothing.[/QUOTE] You're sadly mistaken my unpatriotic friend. We tried to boycott French wine and cheese and attempted to change the name of French fries to freedom fries. We also struck back at the French by inventing a whole slab of new[citation needed] surrender jokes which mildly upset the French for about a year. That'll teach them not to join us in coalitions.
Like US doing stupid shit somehow justifies Russia doing stupid shit
I don't know why people dislike Putin so much, he handled the syria problem with diplomatic finesse, saving countless lives when the US was warming up their USA chants and bomber jets. He is and will never be the aggressor as far as I'm concerned. Countries on the way down like the US will try to stay relevant by picking a fight and convincing everyone they can that they are the good guys, when time and time again it has been shown that they are not the good guys they portray themselves as.
[QUOTE=DestinyDstryr;44252913]I don't know why people dislike Putin so much, he handled the syria problem with diplomatic finesse, saving countless lives when the US was warming up their USA chants and bomber jets. He is and will never be the aggressor as far as I'm concerned. Countries on the way down like the US will try to stay relevant by picking a fight and convincing everyone they can that they are the good guys, when time and time again it has been shown that they are not the good guys they portray themselves as.[/QUOTE] Propaganda
[QUOTE=DestinyDstryr;44252913]I don't know why people dislike Putin so much, he handled the syria problem with diplomatic finesse, saving countless lives when the US was warming up their USA chants and bomber jets. He is and will never be the aggressor as far as I'm concerned. Countries on the way down like the US will try to stay relevant by picking a fight and convincing everyone they can that they are the good guys, when time and time again it has been shown that they are not the good guys they portray themselves as.[/QUOTE] how much are they paying you for this post?
What we don't hear enough about is the ukranian fascist power grab. In Kiev, fascists have taken up important positions, like the deputy prime minister, the minister for defence, and a couple more. There's concern among many citizens of a genocide against Russians in Ukraine. Many are voting to join Russia because of fears of persecution from these fascists. Whether genocide fears are real or propaganda, there's still a strong fascist presence in Kiev. This conflict is not remotely one sided as you're all making it out to be. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKxRJ6Zqzdc#t=171[/media] Vice have been going around Ukraine, talking to everyone. Speaking to pro Ukranians, pro Russians, soldiers on both sides, anyone they can. They've gone to protests for both sides. They've been let into Ukranian army bases and checkpoints, turned down by Russians. I'd really recommend watching their coverage. They've spoken to every side of the story and have been really unbiased.
[QUOTE=Killer900;44251699]What the fuck is going on with this world. Aren't russian presidents only allowed to serve two terms? Why was Putin allowed to serve a third time again?[/QUOTE] He's juggling between being a president and a PM.
The hell? How is he selling the Ukraine thing to the people? Is this how the Eastern world felt when George W Bush had astoundingly high approval ratings?
[QUOTE=Killer900;44251699]What the fuck is going on with this world. Aren't russian presidents only allowed to serve two terms? Why was Putin allowed to serve a third time again?[/QUOTE] He doesn't bother to hide it anymore.
It doesn't surprise me. Take for example Hitler (NO THIS WILL NOT BE WW3 THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE). When he invaded Poland, his popularity shot up too.
115% approval rate.. Wait a second...
[QUOTE=CrumbleShake;44253642]What we don't hear enough about is the ukranian fascist power grab. In Kiev, fascists have taken up important positions, like the deputy prime minister, the minister for defence, and a couple more. There's concern among many citizens of a genocide against Russians in Ukraine. Many are voting to join Russia because of fears of persecution from these fascists. [/QUOTE] Source?
[QUOTE=bogdan;44251841]Comrades, you may blame Russia for "agression", but why not to remember Grenada Invasion, Panama, Persian Gulf, Kosovo, Iraq, Lybia? Double standarts, double standarts everywhere.[/QUOTE] Those damn double stun darts, putting everyone to sleep. Also not everyone in this forum is American and even then I don't see why the actions of the country invalidate the opinions of it's people, they aren't a hivemind. [QUOTE=DestinyDstryr;44252913]I don't know why people dislike Putin so much, he handled the syria problem with diplomatic finesse, saving countless lives when the US was warming up their USA chants and bomber jets. He is and will never be the aggressor as far as I'm concerned. Countries on the way down like the US will try to stay relevant by picking a fight and convincing everyone they can that they are the good guys, when time and time again it has been shown that they are not the good guys they portray themselves as.[/QUOTE] Jesus Christ where are all these Russian apologists coming from? Were we mentioned in a pro-russia website or something?
[QUOTE=bogdan;44251841]Comrades, you may blame Russia for "agression", but why not to remember Grenada Invasion, Panama, Persian Gulf, Kosovo, Iraq, Lybia? Double standarts, double standarts everywhere.[/QUOTE] How does it feel to be a fascist government supporter?
russians are stupid I'm sorry I have a bunch of russian friends who defend this shit
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;44254707]russians are stupid I'm sorry I have a bunch of russian friends who defend this shit[/QUOTE] "russians are stupid because i know a few with different views than me" you're stupid
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;44254707]russians are stupid I'm sorry I have a bunch of russian friends who defend this shit[/QUOTE] Sure, but does this "I'm sorry" imply that you know your opinion might be/is wrong? And you go with it it anyway? Well you're stupid, and I'm absolutely not sorry. Not because you think we are stupid because you apparently "have Russian friends who support this shit", but specifically because you decide to post something you know is wrong.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;44254354]Source?[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Tenyukh[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleksandr_Sych[/url] [url]http://www.channel4.com/news/svoboda-ministers-ukraine-new-government-far-right[/url] Also that video I posted had a woman worrying about the genocide. Looking at some of [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svoboda_(political_party)#Language]Svoboda's[/url] policies, they're quite nationalist, for example making it illegal to teach Russian as a language, criminally persecuting people for 'Ukrainophobia," banning non-Ukranians from adopting Ukranian children, stuff like that. Obviously nothing as big as genocide or even close but worrying enough.
[QUOTE=bogdan;44251841]Comrades, you may blame Russia for "agression", but why not to remember Grenada Invasion, Panama, Persian Gulf, Kosovo, Iraq, Lybia? Double standarts, double standarts everywhere.[/QUOTE] It seems that every new thread they tend to forget all their interventions.
[QUOTE=CrumbleShake;44259796][URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Tenyukh[/URL] [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleksandr_Sych[/URL] [URL]http://www.channel4.com/news/svoboda-ministers-ukraine-new-government-far-right[/URL] Also that video I posted had a woman worrying about the genocide. Looking at some of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svoboda_(political_party)#Language"]Svoboda's[/URL] policies, they're quite nationalist, for example making it illegal to teach Russian as a language, criminally persecuting people for 'Ukrainophobia," banning non-Ukranians from adopting Ukranian children, stuff like that. Obviously nothing as big as genocide or even close but worrying enough.[/QUOTE] They're quite nationalist, but the current cabinet is made up of a number of different parties, and Svoboda is the smallest one, they only hold 4 of the 20 positions. [editline]16th March 2014[/editline] And of the government parties' in parliament, Svoboda have only 14% of the seats.
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.