[QUOTE=supersoldier58;38536157]If I am giving off the vibe I don't like or am uncomfortable with transgenders I am sorry because it is not true.[/QUOTE]
Protip: We really don't appreciate being called "Transgenders", and you really can't say you're ok with us then go "I won't respect your identity because it's 'hard' for me", because then you clearly are uncomfortable with us.
[QUOTE=supersoldier58;38536157]I fail to understand why others don't understand this argument, it seems that you are interpreting calling a transgender by their sex is meant to be discriminatory, this is not what I am intending at all. If I am giving off the vibe I don't like or am uncomfortable with transgenders I am sorry because it is not true. I am saying that for some people its more comfortable to call a transgender by their sex and not their gender. I fail to understand why I can't call the transgender by their sex if it makes [I]me[/I] comfortable, but someone can change their gender to make [I]them[/I] comfortable and suddenly everyones condolences go out to them. I don't understand why you understand someones reasoning for being transgender but can't understand why it can be much easier to address by sex and not gender. I will give an example that is not based around my opinion towards transgenders, so don't get mad at me for this. So to put it bluntly, If I have to tolerate and be comfortable with someone changing their gender, then they have to tolerate and be comfortable with the fact that it is easier for me to call them by sex, exactly how it is easier for them to change their gender. I do hope you understand where I am coming from, but I can also understand if you don't.[/QUOTE]
i have to love how you call the proverbial trans person "a transgender", "transgenders" etc. as if they are some sort of entity like a fucking camcorder cable.
[editline]21st November 2012[/editline]
really fucking admirable and totally not uncomfortable and bigoted, love.
[QUOTE=supersoldier58;38536157]I fail to understand why others don't understand this argument, it seems that you are interpreting calling a transgender by their sex is meant to be discriminatory, this is not what I am intending at all. If I am giving off the vibe I don't like or am uncomfortable with transgenders I am sorry because it is not true. I am saying that for some people its more comfortable to call a transgender by their sex and not their gender. I fail to understand why I can't call the transgender by their sex if it makes [I]me[/I] comfortable, but someone can change their gender to make [I]them[/I] comfortable and suddenly everyones condolences go out to them. I don't understand why you understand someones reasoning for being transgender but can't understand why it can be much easier to address by sex and not gender. I will give an example that is not based around my opinion towards transgenders, so don't get mad at me for this. So to put it bluntly, If I have to tolerate and be comfortable with someone changing their gender, then they have to tolerate and be comfortable with the fact that it is easier for me to call them by sex, exactly how it is easier for them to change their gender. I do hope you understand where I am coming from, but I can also understand if you don't.[/QUOTE]
Or how about you think of it this way.
Transgender individuals such as myself would love it if our biological sex matched our gender, but it doesn't. And why? Because we had no control over what hormone flows through our veins and what genitalia we were born with. You people assume that, for transgirls, we're men who want to be women... not a woman born in the wrong body that she can't stand living it and can't stand confiding to the rules and norms of being a boy. I would love it if I was born a female on the outside so I didn't have to deal with this shit, but I can't. I have to make do with what I have and take female hormones and testosterone blockers so my body physically matches my gender. That goes the same for any transman and transwoman out there. So don't call us by our sex because that's just disrespectful and hurtful.
[QUOTE=supersoldier58;38536157]I fail to understand why others don't understand this argument, it seems that you are interpreting calling a transgender by their sex is meant to be discriminatory, this is not what I am intending at all. If I am giving off the vibe I don't like or am uncomfortable with transgenders I am sorry because it is not true. I am saying that for some people its more comfortable to call a transgender by their sex and not their gender. I fail to understand why I can't call the transgender by their sex if it makes [I]me[/I] comfortable, but someone can change their gender to make [I]them[/I] comfortable and suddenly everyones condolences go out to them. I don't understand why you understand someones reasoning for being transgender but can't understand why it can be much easier to address by sex and not gender. I will give an example that is not based around my opinion towards transgenders, so don't get mad at me for this. So to put it bluntly, If I have to tolerate and be comfortable with someone changing their gender, then they have to tolerate and be comfortable with the fact that it is easier for me to call them by sex, exactly how it is easier for them to change their gender. I do hope you understand where I am coming from, but I can also understand if you don't.[/QUOTE]
Because being transgender isn't about being comfortable. You don't wake up and go "Man, y'know I'm sort of uncomfortable... I think I'll join one of the most discriminated and dangerous groups to be in and make life altering and body changing decisions just to see if I feel better!"
It's a deep set depression, It's an "illness"(For lack of better words) that if untreated is almost 100% fatal. It's fucking horrible and I wouldn't wish the feelings on anyone.
You're refusal to respect one's identity out of comfort is simply a dickish want of yours, its not something you have to do. Being transgender and becoming your identity pretty much is.
I guess I just have strange opinion on things since I haven't encountered people who want their identity changed, and I do hope that if I do I make sure to give full support. But yes, I can understand where you guys are coming from, sorry for acting a bit like an idiot.
[QUOTE=supersoldier58;38539032]I guess I just have strange opinion on things since I haven't encountered people who want their identity changed, and I do hope that if I do I make sure to give full support. But yes, I can understand where you guys are coming from, sorry for acting a bit like an idiot.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for at least admitting you were wrong. Though do remember we're not changing our identities, we're not men becoming women, we're women who have to transition to make our bodies correct.
[QUOTE=thisispain;38537719]Reagan gave her a good ol' dicking and look how that turned out[/QUOTE]
I know they both have a hard-on for privatization, so it wouldn't surprise me if he showed his private member up her private area, while in private.
you are getting far more graphic than i ever wanted to go
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