MARYLAND: Trans Woman Brutally Attacked At Baltimore McDonald's - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;29382936]Okay lets try the points approach. Reality 1. A guy identifies himself as a woman trapped in female body. 2. Is unhappy. 3. Wants to be happy, the only way is to go through sex change operation. 4. Goes through the operation, the body matches the gender identity. 5. Is happy. If you could choose your gender identity 1. A guy identifies himself as a woman trapped in female body. 2. Is unhappy. 3. Wants to be happy. 4. Convinces himself he's a female, the body matches the gender identity. 5. Is happy. But it doesn't happen.[/QUOTE] your argument is an idiotic hypothetical situation okay p.s. you're confusing sexual identity with gender identity

[QUOTE=Sanius;29383015]your argument is an idiotic hypothetical situation okay[/QUOTE] And I'm afraid that you seem to have no idea what gender identity is. Simply accept that it has been recognized as not changeable at will by social scientists and medical experts far more intelligent than you or I.

[QUOTE=Sanius;29383015]your argument is an idiotic hypothetical situation[/QUOTE] Which one and how is it hypothetical? What are you talking about? [QUOTE=Sanius;29383015]p.s. you're confusing sexual identity with gender identity[/QUOTE] Enlighten me please. Because I think you're the one confusing things.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;29383094]Which one and how is it hypothetical? What are you talking about? Enlighten me please. Because I think you're the one confusing things.[/QUOTE] [img]http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfb6obUPF61qzln9ao1_500.jpg[/img] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Image Macro" - Craptasket))[/highlight]

He evacuated huh?

this is the most confusing in the news argument i've ever read i don't even know if i'm a guy now

[QUOTE=Sanius;29382866]yes and there is absolutely nothing incorrect about that statement[/QUOTE] Sanius, your highly unfathomable logic has been proven long countless times, I don't know why you insist on trying to boost your ego by elevating yourself above others in your imagination. You're a delusional idiot, you should really just give up. [editline]23rd April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Sanius;29383015]your argument is an idiotic hypothetical situation okay p.s. you're confusing sexual identity with gender identity[/QUOTE] If you don't think that gender identity such as sexism is in every human's subconscious, you don't know what you're talking about. I also find it hilarious how you call that hypothetical when you're an idiot who thinks he can imagine any situation and know how it would exactly work out realistically.

[QUOTE=Leaf Runner;29387115] If you don't think that gender identity such as sexism is in every human's subconscious, you don't know what you're talking about.[/QUOTE] I never said it wasn't [QUOTE=Leaf Runner;29387115] I also find it hilarious how you call that hypothetical when you're an idiot who thinks he can imagine any situation and know how it would exactly work out realistically. [/QUOTE] I called it hypothetical because it was hypothetical. and I have no idea where you're getting the second part from (your ass?)

[QUOTE=archangel125;29382561]No, that just makes sense.[/QUOTE] the peanut kid said it best, "it's not a choice but you're not born that way"

[QUOTE=Sanius;29387315]I never said it wasn't [/QUOTE] Yes you did, you claim that gender identity is something created "by society", it's not, it's basic human psychology just like how any psychologist would see that you must be a very troubled child.

It's incorrect to equate a gender identity disorder with homosexuality. They're very much incompatible, and there's a significant amount of evidence to account for the idea that GID is biological. Most people with GID associate with a female role even as very young children. Man this is a confusing argument, don't even know who to direct this at.

[QUOTE=dranei;29388896]It's incorrect to equate a gender identity disorder with homosexuality. They're very much incompatible, and there's a significant amount of evidence to account for the idea that GID is biological. Most people with GID associate with a female role even as very young children. Man this is a confusing argument, don't even know who to direct this at.[/QUOTE] Its better to just lay down the law on everyone.

I can honestly say that if there is a black woman in line at McDonald's, I won't stand in line anywhere near her.

[QUOTE=Leaf Runner;29388477]Yes you did, you claim that gender identity is something created "by society", it's not[/QUOTE] yes it is we can keep going on like this but the burden is on you to explain how a concept created by society isn't a concept created by society

[QUOTE=Sanius;29390277]yes it is we can keep going on like this but the burden is on you to explain how a concept created by society isn't a concept created by society[/QUOTE] Gender was determined the moment the first male and female forms of life appeared. Transgenders, homosexuals, bisexuals, etc are normally quite uncommon in nature and in human civilization until the first urban centres began to appear, and even then most people in the world view such people in a negative manner.

[QUOTE=Sanius;29390277]yes it is we can keep going on like this but the burden is on you to explain how a concept created by society isn't a concept created by society[/QUOTE] Considering how you claim to be a psychological genius who knows everything about society and the way in which humans work within it, and have obscure bullshit theories with absolutely no backing or studies to them, you should really be the one backing up your argument. Nobody's going to look up your sources for you. All you keep saying is "gender and sex identity isnt the same gender is created by our terrible society!!!"

cut out the hyperbolic ad hominem bullshit please

[QUOTE=Leaf Runner;29390502]Considering how you claim to be a psychological genius who knows everything about society and the way in which humans work within it, and have obscure bullshit theories with absolutely no backing or studies to them, you should really be the one backing up your argument. Nobody's going to look up your sources for you. All you keep saying is "gender and sex identity isnt the same gender is created by our terrible society!!!"[/QUOTE] That's his argument for everything though :v: Anything effected by religion(everything pretty much) is bad. [editline]23rd April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Sanius;29390531]cut out the hyperbolic ad hominem bullshit please[/QUOTE] You mean the same ad hominem bullshit you try? By the way, do you actually KNOW any transgender people?

I never said anything is bad nor did I ever mention religion jesus fucking christ

[QUOTE=Sanius;29390561]I never said anything is bad nor did I ever mention religion jesus fucking christ[/QUOTE] You're seriously avoiding any and all questions.

[QUOTE=Sanius;29390561]I never said anything is bad nor did I ever mention religion jesus fucking christ[/QUOTE] From your posts you sound like an anarchist who hates modern society. Do society a favour by getting rid of your computer made by modern society and going to live in a forest where you will invent your own language, get filmed by David Attenborough and then die of diarrhoea at the age of 36.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29391756]From your posts you sound like an anarchist who hates modern society. Do society a favour by getting rid of your computer made by modern society and going to live in a forest where you will invent your own language, get filmed by David Attenborough and then die of diarrhoea at the age of 36.[/QUOTE] you should follow your own advice you are a FAR worse poster than he is.

[QUOTE=Leaf Runner;29390502] gender is created by our ... society!!!"[/QUOTE] this is completely right though. even things people think are natural biological functions have societal origins, like the side effects of menopause (hot flashes, etc.), which vary from society to society (and in some places, don't even exist)

Don't want to bother reading six pages, but I saw that there was some sort of argument about being born gay, so I'll just give my personal testimony. I never really liked boys when I was younger, but around 13 up until now (16) I have liked males, and females too. I never really was super masculine, so maybe I was genetically predisposed to be gay/bi, but personally I think it was more of psychological and environmental changes. And thats coming someone who is bi-sexual, and actually bi-sexual not just HURRDURR IM BISEXUAL CUZ ITS COOL.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;29391788]you should follow your own advice you are a FAR worse poster than he is.[/QUOTE] I'm sure there's definitely worse.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29392231]I'm sure there's definitely worse.[/QUOTE] i dunno your posts are pretty consistently the worst posts i see in itn

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;29391934]this is completely right though. even things people think are natural biological functions have societal origins, like the side effects of menopause (hot flashes, etc.), which vary from society to society (and in some places, don't even exist)[/QUOTE] Do you have a source for this because I'm genuinely interested

[QUOTE=Zeke129;29392446]Do you have a source for this because I'm genuinely interested[/QUOTE] So would I because I've gotten anecdotal evidence but not actually evidence.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;29392367]i dunno your posts are pretty consistently the worst posts i see in itn[/QUOTE] What about Gmodfan_77?

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;29392661]What about Gmodfan_77?[/QUOTE] The man has a point.