• Atheist assaulted by Muslim, case dropped, victim criticized by judge for offending religious belief
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I just have to bring this up because no one actually commented on it. [QUOTE]"I think our forefathers intended that we use the First Amendment so that we can speak our mind, not to piss off other people and other cultures, which is what you did." [/QUOTE] This is what a judge in the United States said. A judge. The judge of the story. The only position in court this person should be occupying is the bathroom as a janitor.
It was a fucking assault, clear as day. What's the problem here I don't get it.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;34912827]I really don't care how I look to other people, I'll call blatant fairy tales fairy tales because that is what they are. Sorry if that offends you.[/QUOTE] It offends me as a human being and atheist that people might compare me to your ignorance
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;34912874]They just make the rest of the sane and non obnoxious ass hole-ish atheists look idiotic.[/QUOTE] insulting someone for believing in bullshit = idiotic? ok, next time I see a grown man who believes in the easter bunny, i'll try not to be mean
Calling that an assault is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. The muslim guy walks up to him and says a few words, and then the guy "being attacked" cries out that he's being assaulted. I mean, REALLY: "Help im being choked"? :downs: To say this story is sensationalist is like calling the Grand Canyon "kinda deep I guess" To be clear, I'm an atheist who sees the problem with religion and the value of free speech. I believe this guy should have the right to dress up like Zombie Muhammad and walk around yelling Hail Satan if he wants to. Not saying he [I]should[/I], but still can, and he shouldn't be assaulted for it. My problem lies with calling this specific case an assault. The video is really shaky, and it isn't entirely clear what's going on, but he's obviously not getting beaten up. This guy is acting like an asshole and provoking everyone (again, he has the right to), but then when the Muslim comes up and confronts him he yells that he's being attacked and rolls on the ground clutching his knee. It's honestly like watching professional soccer.
[QUOTE=MIPS;34912624]I can't say I'm religious because I'm not. I can't also say I'm Athiest because I'm not [i]that[/i] retarded. What the hell am I??[/QUOTE] You're very retarded?
[QUOTE=Patriarch;34912626]Oh no, he attacked my religion, what a terrible person! Retarded. [sp]Since when is Athiesm stupid?[/sp][/QUOTE] please explain how he is 'retarded' if he doesn't have an opinion on something like this
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34912932]It was a fucking assault, clear as day. What's the problem here I don't get it.[/QUOTE] An honest question, but would this even count as assault? He was barely touched and no lasting harm came because of it.
[QUOTE=ZZTop;34912934]It offends me as a human being and atheist that people might compare me to your ignorance[/QUOTE] How is finding it silly that people hold a fairy tale in high regard ignorant?
[QUOTE=Cuntsman;34912936]insulting someone for believing in bullshit = idiotic? ok, next time I see a grown man who believes in the easter bunny, i'll try not to be mean[/QUOTE] So you are calling them retards?
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34912932]It was a fucking assault, clear as day. What's the problem here I don't get it.[/QUOTE] Terrible judge doesn't understand the law he is trying to interpret, or just as likely purposefully misinterprets. "Freedom of Speech! Until you say something mean towards a religion I just converted to then you can be assaulted with no legal recourse" [QUOTE=ZZTop;34912934]It offends me as a human being and atheist that people might compare me to your ignorance[/QUOTE] It's ignorant to compare Bible stories to fairy tales? How? Do you believe any of the outrageous Bible stories more than Jack and the Beanstalk? What about the stories of Thor? Or Zeus?
That guy is an obnoxious prick. However what the muslim guy did was unacceptable, that judge should lose his job.
[QUOTE=Rankxerox;34912981]So you are calling them retards?[/QUOTE] Where in that post did I call someone a retard
[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;34912974]An honest question, but would this even count as assault? He was barely touched and no lasting harm came because of it.[/QUOTE] Yes it's clearly assault. There isn't a measurement you can apply; he was assaulted.
[QUOTE=cyanidem;34912882]More anti-theist than atheist. Atheists don't go around attacking religion, they just believe in no God. Anti-theists believe that religion it self is a bad thing. Try telling that to the general population though.[/QUOTE] No. Anti-theism is the idea that belief in any deity is bad. You mean anti-religionist.
[QUOTE=Strongbad;34912773]People in this thread clearly fail to grasp why the Muslim was enraged. He was enraged because disrespecting what he believes in is disrespecting him, and an offense he couldn't bear. This entire case is stupid, but anyone who sympathizes with the Atheist jackass who deliberately tried to piss people off is also stupid. [/QUOTE] His friend was dressed up as a zombie pope and no one attacked him.
I found what they did (dressing as zombie this und that) quite funny. Unlike "nonbelievers go to hell" or "behead nonfollowers" this was quite harmless and comical.
All parties involved can go fuck themselves. The attacked guy for being such a massive MASSIVE cockmongler, the muslim for attacking him and the judge for siding with the attacker for some stupid reason.
[QUOTE=MIPS;34912624]I can't say I'm religious because I'm not. I can't also say I'm Athiest because I'm not [i]that[/i] retarded. What the hell am I??[/QUOTE] the worst agnostic poster ive ever seen
You have a protection to say what may offend others. You don't have a protection to assault someone. That's it. you people trying to say that the guy deserved it are wrong. No one deserves to be assaulted. You people are just assholes that think someone else exercising their rights to state their opinion, regardless how militant or stupid or how they do it, deserve to be at the mercy of the society they're in. You're the problem, not the atheists in this situation. Using your logic, I should be able to kick your ass because you offend me with your indisputably ignorant beliefs on the expression of speech.
[QUOTE=Strongbad;34912773]People in this thread clearly fail to grasp why the Muslim was enraged. He was enraged because disrespecting what he believes in is disrespecting him, and an offense he couldn't bear. This entire case is stupid, but anyone who sympathizes with the Atheist jackass who deliberately tried to piss people off is also stupid. [editline]28th February 2012[/editline] This is like spitting on someone and then whining about it when you get punched in the face and have your lunch money taken in return.[/QUOTE] you're awful just stop
[QUOTE=Cuntsman;34912936]insulting someone for believing in bullshit = idiotic? ok, next time I see a grown man who believes in the easter bunny, i'll try not to be mean[/QUOTE] No, being an insulting cunt for no fucking reason makes you an idiotic prick.
[QUOTE=Strongbad;34912773]People in this thread clearly fail to grasp why the Muslim was enraged. He was enraged because disrespecting what he believes in is disrespecting him, and an offense he couldn't bear. This entire case is stupid, but anyone who sympathizes with the Atheist jackass who deliberately tried to piss people off is also stupid. [editline]28th February 2012[/editline] This is like spitting on someone and then whining about it when you get punched in the face and have your lunch money taken in return.[/QUOTE] I can understand his anger. However, it does not justify assault and battery, and the Muslim should be charged for his crime.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;34913134]the worst agnostic poster ive ever seen[/QUOTE] nah the dude's atheist, he's just being retarded about it. if you believe in a god, you're a theist. if you don't explicitly believe in a god, you're atheist. if you think there's no way to prove that there is a god, you're agnostic. if you think you know whether god exists or not, you're gnostic. so he's an agnostic atheist. it's incredibly simple: [img]http://i.imgur.com/KH5Ik.jpg[/img] you know someone's talking plain shit when they say "I'm not atheist, I'm agnostic"
Your beliefs must be awesome if your response to someone mocking them is violence. Really some grade A faith there.
[QUOTE=Bound;34912314]That judge needs to get fired immediately. He is not doing his job.[/QUOTE] The correct phrasing if I remember correctly is he should have 'recused' himself. For obvious conflict of interest.
[QUOTE=fox '09;34912924][img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/mpQA0.jpg[/img_thumb] I don't like violence on either side but don't tell me atheist shouldn't be pissed the fuck off at religion.[/QUOTE] What's the problem with Tim Tebow?
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;34913214]No, being an insulting cunt for no fucking reason makes you an idiotic prick.[/QUOTE] Good thing I only insult people who are willingly ignorant
[QUOTE=Ridge;34913348]What's the problem with Tim Tebow?[/QUOTE] That he thinks god give more of a shit about him winning american football then stopping pain and suffering in the world.
[QUOTE=Ridge;34913348]What's the problem with Tim Tebow?[/QUOTE] I dunno. not sure why Justin Bieber's in there either
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