CNN called Sanders in Idaho, 78 to 21 with 100% in.
Holy living shit, Idaho..
Sanders 78.0%
Clinton 21.2%
Sanders is 70%+ ahead in Idaho and Utah, Shillary is at about 60%. I'm wondering who is going to come out ahead in delegates tonight?
The voter turnout in Idaho looks very disproportionate to the other states.
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[QUOTE=The Aussie;49989337]Sanders is 70%+ ahead in Idaho and Utah, Shillary is at about 60%. I'm wondering who is going to come out ahead in delegates tonight?[/QUOTE]
According to Wikipedia, Arizona has 85 total delegates to Idaho and Utah's 27 and 37. Probably gonna be in Hillary's favor.
[QUOTE=Freakie;49989341]The voter turnout in Idaho looks very disproportionate to the other states.[/QUOTE]
Is Idaho a mostly rural state maybe? I'm pretty sure they're known for their potatoes so it makes sense if they're got a fuckload of nothing.
Sanders is tightening Arizona but i'm going to guess it's going to end up at about 45/55 if he's lucky, 40/60 if he isn't.
Since I was 15 when we re-elected Obama, this is pretty much the first election in my life that I can actually understand and give a shit about what's going on.
I don't like it, can I please go back to not giving a shit
[QUOTE=Ern;49989412]Since I was 15 when we re-elected Obama, this is pretty much the first election in my life that I can actually understand and give a shit about what's going on.
I don't like it, can I please go back to not giving a shit[/QUOTE]
I felt that way in 2008, my first presidential race to vote in, and now we have this shitfest.
I can only imagine what it'll be like when you're 26
I really do wonder if future election cycles will be this interesting again, this one is just a perfect storm of comedy and tragedy, regardless of who you support. This election season has been a wild ride and I will miss it when it's over.
Bernie fell short of his delegate goal and basically 50/50 the night with Hillary. Came up short in Arizona.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;49989300]Well, Hillary lost in 2008, and she's running now I guess? I don't think Bernie would try again in 2020, but it's not like establishing your name is a bad thing.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, by that time I'm afraid that Bernie would be far too old for an effective presidency...
If anyone is wondering, Bernie came out with a net 15 delegates today.
There has also been extremely credible allegations of election fraud in Arizona, with a lot of people complaining about having been given provisional ballots for no reason, or randomly having their affiliation changed.
[QUOTE=The Aussie;49989463]If anyone is wondering, Bernie came out with a net 15 delegates today.
There has also been extremely credible allegations of election fraud in Arizona, with a lot of people complaining about having been given provisional ballots for no reason, or randomly having their affiliation changed.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention, Bernie's campaign manager was going on about how he saw hour long lines waiting to vote for Bernie. You have to wonder with shit like that how the margin Hillary won is possible by any normal means.
Apparently a lot of people who had recently switched affiliations were given provisional ballots or told they were ineligible as well. For anyone that doesn't know, a provisional ballot is effectively a waste of time.
There are supposedly people [B]still[/B] waiting in line to vote in various places in Arizona. Crazy.
[QUOTE=The Aussie;49989463]If anyone is wondering, Bernie came out with a net 15 delegates today.
There has also been extremely credible allegations of election fraud in Arizona, with a lot of people complaining about having been given provisional ballots for no reason, or randomly having their affiliation changed.[/QUOTE]
And it's shit like this why I won't ever vote for Clinton. I'll vote for Jill Stein, if she isn't on the Indiana ballot, Trump can get my vote then.
[QUOTE=The Aussie;49989479]For anyone that doesn't know, a provisional ballot is effectively a waste of time.[/QUOTE]
In Utah my caucus it's all anyone got.
As I said, we all had to wait in line for two hours, no information was provided, we were handed provisional ballots with little to no information available; I wouldn't be surprised if my and a lot of other people's ballots aren't counted because of it.
There was also a severe lack of pens.
The republican party did a much better job there, each voter that registered prior got mail that gave them the card with their information (Precinct location, location#, etc) and they just showed that, their ID, and cast their vote.
Sanders went over his 58% delegate target tonight. That number could go up depending on how Arizona turns out.
Some real fuckery going on in that state. I don't normally bite on the election conspiracies, but that looks like fraud to me.
So many people are reporting AZ being a fucktarded mess in so many ways. Wouldn't be surprised if they start an investigation into it.
Yeah, it seems like a lot of people called tonight a major loss for Sanders way too early.
I doubt anything will happen with fraud stuff in AZ, but regardless, Sanders is slated to pull in quite a chunk of delegates for the night as a whole.
[QUOTE=rilez;49989768]Sanders went over his 58% delegate target tonight. That number could go up depending on how Arizona turns out.
Some real fuckery going on in that state. I don't normally bite on the election conspiracies, but that looks like fraud to me.[/QUOTE]
Theres potentially some pretty shady stuff going on in the Democratic side of the primaries. Have a look at this list [URL="http://docquery.fec.gov/pres/2016/M3/C00577130/B_PAYEE_C00577130.html"]here[/URL] and look for [URL="http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/politics/2016/01/19/mississippi-democratic-super-delegate-supporting-sanders/79000892/"]Keelan Sanders[/URL]. It might be a coincidence and I don't know if giving money to super delegates is allowed but it looks dodgy as fuck.
General election polls this far out from general is meaningless. I wouldnt start considering them meaningful until we get closer to general election after the primarys are wrapped up. Afterall this time in previous elections mccain was polling well against obama and kerry was polling very well against bush throughout the primarys.
That being said im not sure anything short of occult magic for bernie to get the nomination which is deeply saddening.
[QUOTE=benwaddi;49989863]Theres potentially some pretty shady stuff going on in the Democratic side of the primaries. Have a look at this list [URL="http://docquery.fec.gov/pres/2016/M3/C00577130/B_PAYEE_C00577130.html"]here[/URL] and look for [URL="http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/politics/2016/01/19/mississippi-democratic-super-delegate-supporting-sanders/79000892/"]Keelan Sanders[/URL]. It might be a coincidence and I don't know if giving money to super delegates is allowed but it looks dodgy as fuck.[/QUOTE]
Well I mean Keelan officially endorsed Sanders in January and that report is for March. Keelan Sanders does also work for a consulting firm, but idunno
But anyways, I would definitely like to see the Purpose for the disbursement there.
FEC has a list of adequate Purposes for disbursements [URL="http://www.fec.gov/rad/pacs/documents/ExamplesofAdequatePurposes.pdf"]here[/URL]
Bernie got more delegates than hillary. How does it feel to lose again you silly clinton supporters? Just drop out now hillary, make room for the nominee!
Funny, Bernie starts to win and everyone starts to cry voter fraud.
[QUOTE=Megadave;49990063]Funny, Bernie starts to win and everyone starts to cry voter fraud.[/QUOTE]
Actually journalists have been reporting on voter fruad since Iowa...
Oh man, AZ Democratic Party opened up a thing for people to report Election Fraud because there's been so many reports so far lmao
[URL]http://www.azactions.com/electionintegrity[/URL]
[QUOTE=Megadave;49990063]Funny, Bernie starts to win and everyone starts to cry voter fraud.[/QUOTE]
Voter fraud has been reported since the beginning, people were accusing Hillary of doing it at first.
This is like Bernies corpse blinking briefly
Damn, Idaho and Utah were major stomps for Bernie.
[QUOTE=Megadave;49990063]Funny, Bernie starts to win and everyone starts to cry voter fraud.[/QUOTE]
I haven't seen anyone reporting voter fraud.
Election fraud is what's going on here. Like voters getting provisional ballots and suddenly not being registered Democrat anymore (even lifelong democrats).
"Leaders from the Arizona branch of the Democratic Party have confirmed that its lawyers are officially making an inquiry after multiple Democratic voters showed up to the polls only to find that they were listed as independents, Republicans, or had no party affiliation at all."
Voter turnout is like 3 times higher than it was in 2012, and honestly I can't wait for official numbers on how many provisional ballots were handed out.
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