[QUOTE=proch;49990108]This is like Bernies corpse blinking briefly[/QUOTE]
Yup
People that are actually dead don't blink
[QUOTE=proch;49990108]This is like Bernies corpse blinking briefly[/QUOTE]
And then he explodes all over Hillary's brand new shoes.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;49989965]Well I mean Keelan officially endorsed Sanders in January and that report is for March. Keelan Sanders does also work for a consulting firm, but idunno
But anyways, I would definitely like to see the Purpose for the disbursement there.
FEC has a list of adequate Purposes for disbursements [URL="http://www.fec.gov/rad/pacs/documents/ExamplesofAdequatePurposes.pdf"]here[/URL][/QUOTE]
Troy Jackson shows up in Decembers numbers under payroll, sure both of these examples might be allowed but there's a clear conflict on interests in paying people who influence nominations.
However he has given $12,789 to Moveon.org PAC last month (under credit card fees) which is above the [URL="http://www.fec.gov/ans/answers_general.shtml"]limit[/URL] a candidate committee can give to a PAC.
I know we aren't looking at millions of dollars but it certainly peaks my curiosity, especially with the [URL="http://www.univision.com/noticias/opinion/luis-gutierrez-sanders-voted-with-republicans"]other[/URL] [URL="http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-02-16/foes-past-and-present-say-sanders-uses-same-tactics-he-criticizes"]accusations[/URL] [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-union-workers_us_56aa7ed6e4b05e4e3703b874"]thrown[/URL] [URL="http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/sanders-getting-more-super-pac-money-than-clinton/"]Bernie's[/URL] [URL="http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/10/15/bernie-sanders-has-fund-raiser-at-fancy-hollywood-home/?_r=0"]way[/URL] that paint him in a less than stellar light.
[QUOTE=wystan;49988715]It's unhealthy and they are only hurting themselves. They need to get realistic. The smart ones have already noticed the futility.[/QUOTE]
Uh, even if bernie doesn't win, how close he gets to winning will determine future races and future decisions. People seeing that a lot of people want bernie's policies is important. What is democracy.
This post really makes no sense though. Unhealthy, hurting themselves, you wot m8? you picked up some really fucked up reasoning somewhere along the line.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;49990112]I haven't seen anyone reporting voter fraud.
Election fraud is what's going on here. Like voters getting provisional ballots and suddenly not being registered Democrat anymore (even lifelong democrats).
"Leaders from the Arizona branch of the Democratic Party have confirmed that its lawyers are officially making an inquiry after multiple Democratic voters showed up to the polls only to find that they were listed as independents, Republicans, or had no party affiliation at all."
Voter turnout is like 3 times higher than it was in 2012, and honestly I can't wait for official numbers on how many provisional ballots were handed out.[/QUOTE]
I signed up for the Democratic party here in NY on the DMV website, 2 week later I receive a card saying i'm registered to vote in the general election and the primary box wasn't checked. I was already signed up for the general election so i'm not sure how they screwed it up.
I signed up on the DMV site again... I guess they don't save your party affiliation on the site it just like multichoice input form... Hopefully I hear something next week.
[QUOTE=phygon;49990119]Yup
People that are actually dead don't blink[/QUOTE]
it's the "pour salt on frog legs" kinda blink
The pixelart candidates on OP link are cute af
The crap thing is that if Sanders loses the nomination (which looks likely), then you are going to have complete dipshits who were former Bernie supporters voting for Trump for some bizarre reason.
If Bernie doesn't win then you Americans are completely screwed up.
It's not like Europe is not getting fucked over by some random dipshits tho
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;49990352]The crap thing is that if Sanders loses the nomination (which looks likely), then you are going to have complete dipshits voting for Trump for some bizarre reason.[/QUOTE]
Just like there are dipshits voting for Bernie/Hillary for some bizarre reason?
If Americans are dumb enough to vote for Clinton/Trump, then this country deserves everything that happens the next 8 years.
We've got a lot of shit coming our way.
I can't say people don't deserve what will happen.
They knew what they were voting for and they will get exactly what they vote for.
I used to think that the American people were good and the government was corrupt, but I see that they're all stupid and blind.
A ww2 veteran talked to my class last week, and bragged about how he kissed Hillary at a rally.
There is no difference between the people and the government, they believe in the same BS.
Problem is that it won't only affect the US since your country have made it a habit to have a finger in everything, whoever wins also affects most of the outside world in some way as well. Both positively and negatively.
[QUOTE=proch;49990407]Just like there are dipshits voting for Bernie/Hillary for some bizarre reason?[/QUOTE]
Well it's more the fact that former Bernie voters are going to vote for Trump if Bernie loses the nomination. This is a concept I am unable to get my head around.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;49990352]The crap thing is that if Sanders loses the nomination (which looks likely), then you are going to have complete dipshits voting for Trump for some bizarre reason.[/QUOTE]
#BERNIE OR BUST
Although these guys is less voting for Trump and more NOT voting for Hillary or doing a Bernie write-in, meaning she gets less votes against Trump.
[QUOTE=proch;49990407]Just like there are dipshits voting for Bernie/Hillary for some bizarre reason?[/QUOTE]
that's not an ideological attack, most of that crowd are expressly voting for trump in full agreement that his actual policies are garbage because they think it will displease the RNC. i think you'll agree that "he's the worst possible candidate" is a pretty strange reason to vote for someone
[QUOTE=Viper123_SWE;49990413]Problem is that it won't only affect the US since your country have made it a habit to have a finger in everything, whoever wins also affects most of the outside world in some way as well. Both positively and negatively.[/QUOTE]
I read that as your country has a habit of [b]fingering[/b] everything...
What the hell is wrong with me?
[QUOTE=Viper123_SWE;49990413]Problem is that it won't only affect the US since your country have made it a habit to have a finger in everything, whoever wins also affects most of the outside world in some way as well. Both positively and negatively.[/QUOTE]
I read that as your country has a habit of [b]fingering[/b] everything...
What the hell is wrong with me?
Basically they're voting Trump simply out of spite of Hillary beating Bernie and not because they actually support Trump.
Honestly those bernieorbust idiots are the actual fucking problem with American politics.
If you aren't going to take politics seriously and instead vote for the shitty candidate on purpose because you are salty that your preferred candidate lost, just so that it fucks things up, then why the hell should you have the right to vote in the first place? How fucking childish are people that they vote for Trump over Clinton because Sanders lost the nomination?
I've said it before, these berniebros are the communists trying to fight against the social democrats in Germany. Social democrats generally align with Marxist thought but still stand by market economies, while Communists want to overthrow the system altogether; but instead of fighting against someone truly abhorrent to their interests (fascists) they try and destroy the social democrat party. And I guess in this model they vote fascist because they hate social democrats so much (even though that would never actually happen lol)
How #BernieOrBust works:
If, a [B]far-left Socialist[/B] does not get elected
then
Elect a [B]far-right Capitalist[/B]
[QUOTE=adamsz;49990408]
A ww2 veteran talked to my class last week, and bragged about how he kissed Hillary at a rally.
[/QUOTE]
Are you sure he wasn't just trying to be funny or something while telling stories?
[QUOTE=Starpluck;49990459]How #BernieOrBust works:
If, a [B]far-left Socialist[/B] does not get elected
then
Elect a [B]far-right Capitalist[/B][/QUOTE]
Sounds like a suicide pact.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;49990445]Honestly those bernieorbust idiots are the actual fucking problem with American politics.
If you aren't going to take politics seriously and instead vote for the shitty candidate on purpose because you are salty that your preferred candidate lost, just so that it fucks things up, then why the hell should you have the right to vote in the first place? How fucking childish are people that they vote for Trump over Clinton because Sanders lost the nomination?[/QUOTE]
it's so bizarre seeing someone talk about voting for the candidate you believe in and supporting more honest approaches to politics, then when their candidate loses they immediately switch to the literal definition of gaming the system for the pettiest possible reasons
it's about as manipulative as what trump's doing right now
[QUOTE=Starpluck;49990459]How #BernieOrBust works:
If, a [B]far-left Socialist[/B] does not get elected
then
Elect a [B]far-right Capitalist[/B][/QUOTE]
To be fair, Hillary is also a far right capitalist, except she also supported TPP and is owned by banks, while Trump isn't to the same extent.
The idea behind it, because I fall under the same umbrella, is that Clinton does not represent (at all) why I am voting for Sanders, and in actuality, Trump does.
I am not voting Sanders because I think he is going to accomplish everything he has planned out, sure he'll get the idea out and the ball rolling, but in reality, it's not going to happen in 4 years. I am voting Bernie because I know he's an authentic breath of fresh air. Hilary is no better than Cruz to me, and Trump is essentially the Sanders of the Republican party.
If I can't vote for the better of the two candidates who are likely to cause a paradigm shift in their parties, then I'll take the lesser. Because, to me, that shift in thinking and approaching your constituents is more important in the long run than anything else.
TLDR; I want to see something change, not more of the same old. I'll take which ever candidate has the best chance of doing that, in any party. I have no preference towards parties, only ideas. (eg. I switched from Republican to Democrat for the Florida primaries this year so I could vote Bernie.)
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;49990440]Basically they're voting Trump simply out of spite of Hillary beating Bernie and not because they actually support Trump.[/QUOTE]
You all fail to realize that if it comes down to Hillary vs Trump then Trump is going to destroy her in the debates because of all the dirt she has on her
It's pretty much just people who know the barebones of the barebones of politics, who judge a book by its cover, and [url=http://i.imgur.com/C7Zls6Z.jpg]vote with their emotions[/url] rather than rational. The most extreme of swing voters.
You also have the people who have the mentality of dragging other down with them if they can't get their way and the people who are mentally predisposed to fall for a demagogue even if they are left wing.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;49990479]To be fair, Hillary is also a far right capitalist, except she also supported TPP and is owned by banks, while Trump isn't to the same extent.[/QUOTE]
Hillary is not "far-right" — get that shit out of here, she's not even comparable to Donald Trump — when it comes to the political spectrum. She doesn't support a ban on Muslims, she doesn't support a Nazi-style "Muslim people" database for all Muslims (we all know that Jewish little star-patch was only because the Nazis did not have the computer-database technology, so its the same shit and the Nazis would've had it if they could've).
She doesn't take 48 hours to disavow white supremacy, her policy platform is not "strengthening the border" and making the other side pay for it, and she certainly does not slander all immigrants and rapists and criminals trying to infiltrate us. She doesn't vow to blow up terrorists and their whole families, Israeli-style. She's not a sexist and she certainly does not talk about her bra-size or clitoris.
All these factors are someone who is far-right, someone who Clinton is not. She is center at most, but not "far-right"
Further— there is something called "Betting your money on the wining candidate" — special interests groups tends throw the weight of their money towards the candidate who they most likely think will win. Clinton has been projected to win since day 1, so a lot of banks and organizations are going to be funneling money to her regardless— so they can say "Look, we supported you since day 1" when really they wouldn't have if they thought Clinton wasn't already going to win.
Lastly, Donald Trump is a corporation. Clinton—at worst— is backed by a corporation. Donald Trump is the CEO of a very large corporation and will stop at nothing to ensure his corporation gets favorable treatment under the law. Trump Inc. is the personification of the worst type of skullduggery corporate entities out there, and anything to strengthen corporations like Trump's would set us back 50 years.
yeah but hillary doesnt like guns and video games
[editline]24th March 2016[/editline]
the fuckin BITCH
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