• Homeopathy 'treatments' must be labelled to say they do not work, US government orders
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If people feel like wasting their money on this bullshit then let them.
[QUOTE=Ishwoo;51410653]If people feel like wasting their money on this bullshit then let them.[/QUOTE] The problem is you can go to a drugstore and in any aisle you'll find homeopathic bullshit right next to actual medicine. You have to look very closely at the label to find anything that says "homeopathic" - usually it will try to cover it up with "all natural" and "no side effects" and "non habit forming" - not to mention the fact that very few people even know that homeopathy is complete ineffective nonsense. So you see a lot of people buying this crap because it looks safer than the actual medicine, not knowing it doesn't work.
[QUOTE=_Axel;51409627]I remember a video of some guy estimating the amounts of active agent based on the claimed dilution factor and concluded that there wasn't a single molecule of them in the final dose.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but now they claim water has memory. (true story)
I like Tim Minchen's point about homeopathy, "Water has memory, and remember the trace substances in it, infusing it with healing power. But it somehow forgets all the poop that's been in it"
[QUOTE=Snowmew;51410841]The problem is you can go to a drugstore and in any aisle you'll find homeopathic bullshit right next to actual medicine. You have to look very closely at the label to find anything that says "homeopathic" - usually it will try to cover it up with "all natural" and "no side effects" and "non habit forming" - not to mention the fact that very few people even know that homeopathy is complete ineffective nonsense. So you see a lot of people buying this crap because it looks safer than the actual medicine, not knowing it doesn't work.[/QUOTE] I think the labeling is the real problem. Even people who know that homeopathy is bulldonk may purchase and use homeopathic "medicines" simply because the labeling is misleading or deceptive. Homeopathic products ahould, at the very least, be clearly labeled as such. So, I think this legislation is a step in the right direction. Outlawing them completely would be preferable of course.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51411256]I think the labeling is the real problem. Even people who know that homeopathy is bulldonk may purchase and use homeopathic "medicines" simply because the labeling is misleading or deceptive. Homeopathic products ahould, at the very least, be clearly labeled as such. So, I think this legislation is a step in the right direction. Outlawing them completely would be preferable of course.[/QUOTE] The sad part is that like tobacco it's pretty much impossible to completely outlaw these alternative "treatments" because those espousing it will fight tooth and nail to prevent it from taking place, considering that it's basically a multi-billion dollar industry, that and other traditional medicines. In fact the only alternative treatment that was actually proven to do something under lab conditions was acupuncture when used to treat, or at least alleviate, hypertension. There was a clinically significant difference, not large, but noticeable average of 4-13 mm Hg drop, and significant drops in norepinephrine (41%) and renin levels (67% - the enzyme which is part of the RAS, or Renin-Angiotensin system, responsible as an important pathway of regulating blood pressure.) This study was done over 10 years and is one of the more recent studies to be published on the subject, though the pioneers as such when it came to researching this alternate form of medicine for potential benefits were the good folk at Waseda U. in Tokyo. [URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4555646/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;51411706]The sad part is that like tobacco it's pretty much impossible to completely outlaw these alternative "treatments" because those espousing it will fight tooth and nail to prevent it from taking place...[/QUOTE] Except that tobacco and alcohol companies aren't claiming their product has medical properties and can replace real medical treatment so banning tobacco and alcohol is understandably hard since they aren't breaking any laws, while the entire industry for "alternative medicine" is a scam built from ground up to be supported on legal loopholes and bought politicians.
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