BBC: Tank column from Russia moves on Mariupol port, Ukraine.
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[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45796071]Please stop posting pictures from sources that have no war correspondents.
I told you before that it's not conviencing me as our sources say the exact opposite of what your sources say and I choose to believe neither. The truth will be revealed later.
As of now please stop posting cool infographics and pictures.
The fact that we discussed the same exact thing in another thread and you act the exact same way while knowing that your post doesn't bring any new info conviences me that you just post that to gather some "Agree" ratings. I think it's a bad attitude.[/QUOTE]
And you just post to disagree and dismiss everything, that's a bad attitude too. Nothing convinces you, you don't believe anything from either side, why argue?
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;45796089]And you just post to disagree and dismiss everything, that's a bad attitude too.[/QUOTE]
I don't post to disagree or dismiss everything, my opinion just differs from western articles.
The difference is that every time I express my opinion Gentry starts a personal fight with me and another guy who was expressing ideas similar to mine.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45796071]Please stop posting pictures from sources that have no war correspondents.
I told you before that it's not conviencing me as our sources say the exact opposite of what your sources say and I choose to believe neither. The truth will be revealed later.
As of now please stop posting cool infographics and pictures.
The fact that we discussed the same exact thing in another thread and you act the exact same way while knowing that your post doesn't bring any new info conviences me that you just post that to gather some "Agree" ratings. I think it's a bad attitude.[/QUOTE]
But-... The West has a lot of war correspondents in Ukraine. Try taking a look at Vice's Russian Roulette dispatches. While it does have a moderately Russian-critical bias of sorts, they're never afraid to criticize the Ukranian military or have interviews with the rebels, Russians and people who support them.
Anyway, the last many reports have been them checking out previously rebel-held areas now recaptured by the military, which paints a clear picture of the rebels' retreat.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45796071]Please stop posting pictures from sources that have no war correspondents.
I told you before that it's not conviencing me as our sources say the exact opposite of what your sources say and I choose to believe neither. The truth will be revealed later.
As of now please stop posting cool infographics and pictures.
The fact that we discussed the same exact thing in another thread and you act the exact same way while knowing that your post doesn't bring any new info conviences me that you just post that to gather some "Agree" ratings. I think it's a bad attitude.[/QUOTE]
The idea that russian sources are even comparable to the rest of the world is ridiculous. Russian media organizations are some of the worst in the world.
[QUOTE=Riller;45796146]But-... The West has a lot of war correspondents in Ukraine. Try taking a look at Vice's Russian Roulette dispatches. While it does have a moderately Russian-critical bias of sorts, they're never afraid to criticize the Ukranian military or have interviews with the rebels, Russians and people who support them.
Anyway, the last many reports have been them checking out previously rebel-held areas now recaptured by the military, which paints a clear picture of the rebels' retreat.[/QUOTE]
Can I have a video? I haven't seen any. If there are war correspondents then I am wrong.
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;45796156]The idea that russian sources are even comparable to the rest of the world is ridiculous. Russian media organizations are some of the worst in the world.[/QUOTE]
BBC and CNN spread as much propoganda as RT. In fact our media oragnizations are extremely professional and good. They are funded by the government, so no surprise the info is biased. But hey, so are BBC and CNN.
Claiming Russkies shot down MH-17 without the investigation being finished and any real info appearing. Aren't they guilty of it? Our news sources never yelled "Ukrainians shot down MH-17".
[editline]25th August 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Teddybeer;45796192]The only major recapture they have done recently was of the crash site, all other advances are to small to note and its just filled with reports of the losing ground or retreating.
They could use some wizards if they don't want to lose before the end of the year.[/QUOTE]
And our news sources report a major part of Ukrainian army being surrounded, a few cities around Donetsk and to the south being liberated and so on.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45796166]Can I have a video? I haven't seen any. If there are war correspondents then I am wrong.[/QUOTE]
[URL="https://news.vice.com/video/russian-roulette-dispatch-69"]Here's the latest.[/URL] You can work your way down through those, though might take some time. Because, you know, there's seventy of them. Most all from the front line, with a fairly even 50-50 split between visiting separatist-held and Ukranian-held areas and people.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45796200]BBC and CNN spread as much propoganda as RT.[/QUOTE]
Yeah... no.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45796200]And our news sources report a major part of Ukrainian army being surrounded, a few cities around Donetsk and to the south being liberated and so on.[/QUOTE]
Are things really that bad over there in Russia - news wise? I'm directing this question to other Russian posters.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45796200]BBC and CNN spread as much propoganda as RT. In fact our media oragnizations are extremely professional and good. They are funded by the government, so no surprise the info is biased. But hey, so are BBC and CNN.[/QUOTE]
CNN is not government funded but has a pretty healthy spin at times (especially when covering strictly American topics).
BBC however... I just don't get how someone could ever compare BBC to RT and not look like a total idiot. You really have no idea what you're talking about.
[QUOTE=Teddybeer;45796248]The latest is
[video=youtube;jjDbHbRiGRQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjDbHbRiGRQ[/video][/QUOTE]
...Huh, you're right. It is. Oh well, here's one showing captured cities.
[video=youtube;FkTHyxeq1A0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkTHyxeq1A0[/video]
[editline]25th August 2014[/editline]
The one before shows a mass-grave of victims of rebel rule in the city of Sloviansk.
Anyway, I'mma stop here, since I feel we're gettin' pretty far off topic.
ugh
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