Video shows Turkish soilders shooting Kurds with white flags collecting bodies - Polidicks

Glad to know that my country is allied with Turkey

So i watched the video, and i dont really saw any soldier or anything like that. There was a cut in the middle of the video, suddenly shootings and it seems like content is missing how the situation escalated in the first place. You guys realise that PKK does everything possible to destabalize the region even with false flag attacks on their "own" people? We can just "assume" that it was turkish army forces but just think about it: Why would the turkish army shoot some peaceful civilians in the first place and cause bad reputations for them?

And now Erdogan asks the EU for 5 billion for the refugee crisis.

[QUOTE=opti2000;49636218]So i watched the video, and i dont really saw any soldier or anything like that. There was a cut in the middle of the video, suddenly shootings and it seems like content is missing how the situation escalated in the first place. You guys realise that PKK does everything possible to destabalize the region even with false flag attacks on their "own" people? We can just "assume" that it was turkish army forces but just think about it: Why would the turkish army shoot some peaceful civilians in the first place and cause bad reputations for them?[/QUOTE] It is reminiscent of the FSA sarin gas attacks, false flag is always a possibility.

[QUOTE=opti2000;49636218]So i watched the video, and i dont really saw any soldier or anything like that. There was a cut in the middle of the video, suddenly shootings and it seems like content is missing how the situation escalated in the first place. You guys realise that PKK does everything possible to destabalize the region even with false flag attacks on their "own" people? We can just "assume" that it was turkish army forces but just think about it: Why would the turkish army shoot some peaceful civilians in the first place and cause bad reputations for them?[/QUOTE] Under what possible circumstances is it OK to shoot clearly unarmed civilians, especially at range? And why do you think a country's military force would attack an ethnic group that the committed genocide against 100~ years ago that's been struggling for independence in that area since ancient times? Also, the PKK attacks Turkish forces exclusively. They aren't something like ISIS, they are egalitarians with militant tactics, often because it's either die or shoot first. Kurdish independence is CLEARLY in direct opposition to Turkey's interests, and the ability for people to ignore that and their straight up genocide is fucking astonishing.

[QUOTE=soccerskyman;49639744]Also, the PKK attacks Turkish forces exclusively. They aren't something like ISIS, they are egalitarians with militant tactics[/QUOTE] Not gonna say that PKK [b]are[/b] anything like ISIS, but "egalitarians with militant tactics"... While mostly they indeed go after the military and police, they routinely use such tactics as a car bomb.

[QUOTE=gudman;49641670]Not gonna say that PKK [b]are[/b] anything like ISIS, but "egalitarians with militant tactics"... While mostly they indeed go after the military and police, they routinely use such tactics as a car bomb.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the PKK aren't nice people and their affiliate groups aren't so cautious with minimizing civilian casualties. Even so, if Kurdish independence is to be gained the Kurds in Syria need to formally divorce themselves from the PKK once and for all and state publicly that they do not support terrorist groups. That would probably go a little way to assuage Turkish concerns over an independent Kurdistan on their border but getting US and Israeli endorsement would be even easier if they made clear efforts to stay out of Turkey. Ideally I think the best solution would be for Syria, Iraq, Iran, and Turkey all to give up a portion of their territory (nowhere near the ridiculous size that Kurds like to claim) with an agreement for Kurdistan to pay for this territory over a number of years. Additionally I think Iran and Turkey would be appeased by getting financial compensation for the terrorist attacks by both the PKK and PJAK. This would likely leave Kurdistan in debt for a [I]long[/I] time but they'd have their homeland and I do think it would bring stability to the region.