Seth MacFarlane made insulting jokes during the oscar - Jews, feminists and antiracists furious - Polidicks

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;39742285]And acting like you're above the issue and that women CURRENTLY have no say in anything is tremendously stupid We're not talking about the past, it's over, it's happened, we're talking about now, and right fucking now, women do have choice and options and do not have to continue to be "forced to conform". Try fucking arguing rather than pretending to be witty. [/QUOTE] thats like saying racism is in the past, its happened, and we shouldn't talk about it now, except thats an unbelievably stupid statement fuck fuck shit shit, fuck fuck its really easy saying 'you have choices, you dont have to conform, you just suck at free will' as a privileged white person, but in the real world, its a lot harder than you think!!! fuck fuck shit shit, fuck fuck its not like conforming makes you not fit in and have a harder time socializing because you are against the norm and wanted to be treated equally then you have someone like humanabyss saying deal with it, you have a choice! fuck fuck shit shit, fuck fuck women having a say doesnt mean shit when every time she opens her mouth to say how unfair she has it or wants her gender to stop being objectified, other people like you tell her to shut up and she has a choice with absolutely no misogyny or sexism happening in the world today, right??? fuck fuck shit shit, fuck fuck wait, i think you solved the puzzle and that the real oppressed people here are MEN, stop misandry fuck fuck shit shit, fuck fuck

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;39742132]You're turning attraction into a form of objectification. Attraction to a person leads to behaviour like, i dunno, looking at the person. Staring and looking are the same thing, the only difference is the length of time someone feels has passed.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=dass;39742255]Stare =/= stare and creep just fyi[/QUOTE] So, let me get this straight. Looking and staring are [I]essentially the same[/I], but staring and staring creepily are [I]completely different.[/I] Again: Looking and staring (your side was the one that conflated the two and turned staring into looking) are apparently the same. But staring and staring creepily (AKA 'creepy action' and 'creepier action')(again, you guys turned "staring like a creep" into "staring and creeping") are completely different. I love you guys. [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;39742285]And acting like you're above the issue and that women CURRENTLY have no say in anything is tremendously stupid We're not talking about the past, it's over, it's happened, we're talking about now, and right fucking now, women do have choice and options and do not have to continue to be "forced to conform". Try fucking arguing rather than pretending to be witty.[/QUOTE] Out of 100 senators, 20 are women. Out of 435 House representatives, 77 are women. That's 20% or less representation for both. For 50% of the population. And even if they're equal legally, that doesn't mean that there isn't still sexism ingrained in our culture. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpt8WkyW4Pc[/media]

[QUOTE=Last or First;39742833]So, let me get this straight. Looking and staring are [I]essentially the same[/I], but staring and staring creepily are [I]completely different.[/I] Again: Looking and staring (your side was the one that conflated the two and turned staring into looking) are apparently the same. But staring and staring creepily (AKA 'creepy action' and 'creepier action')(again, you guys turned "staring like a creep" into "staring and creeping") are completely different. I love you guys. [b] Out of 100 senators, 20 are women. Out of 435 House representatives, 77 are women. That's 20% or less representation for both. For 50% of the population. [/b] And even if they're equal legally, that doesn't mean that there isn't still sexism ingrained in our culture. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpt8WkyW4Pc[/media][/QUOTE] Woman can only be represented by other women is that what you're saying?

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;39742385]thats like saying racism is in the past, its happened, and we shouldn't talk about it now, except thats an unbelievably stupid statement [B]No, it's not like that. Because where did I say "shouldn't talk about it"? Oh I didn't say that did I?! What a horrible situation for you, putting words in my mouth to make your argument work. We SHOULD be talking about it. We shouldn't be ignoring that there are living people in this equation, women and men who are both trying to change that ideal.[/B] fuck fuck shit shit, fuck fuck [B]Wow, clever. It's like you're making fun of me, but you're just not good at it. [/B] its really easy saying 'you have choices, you dont have to conform, you just suck at free will' as a privileged white person, but in the real world, its a lot harder than you think!!! [B] Oh man I must have said "it's so easy as a person who doesn't have the same things I have in my life to change things" oh wait, I DIDN'T. Another thing you HAD to put in my mouth for this "argument" to work.[/B] fuck fuck shit shit, fuck fuck its not like conforming makes you not fit in and have a harder time socializing because you are against the norm and wanted to be treated equally then you have someone like humanabyss saying deal with it, you have a choice! [B]So a struggle is going to be a struggle is what you're saying? Cause it was never going to be easy for anyone to get out of this situation, that doesn't mean that not taking part in it yourself isn't a valid fucking way to go about it. [/B] fuck fuck shit shit, fuck fuck women having a say doesnt mean shit when every time she opens her mouth to say how unfair she has it or wants her gender to stop being objectified, other people like you tell her to shut up and she has a choice with absolutely no misogyny or sexism happening in the world today, right??? [B]Did I tell anyone to shut up and suck it? No, did I tell anyone, or ever even give the slightest fucking INCLINATION of saying "No shut up it's easy" cause you know what pal, I didn't say that shit either. [/B] fuck fuck shit shit, fuck fuck wait, i think you solved the puzzle and that the real oppressed people here are MEN, stop misandry fuck fuck shit shit, fuck fuck[/QUOTE] Wait guys, I think I got it, you don't know what you're talking about any better than any other asshole posting on this forum. At the end of the day man, I think that women deserve better than what they've got as a whole, but I can't blame it all on men and our actions as if we're the sole oppressors of people over the course of our history. Yeah, we're primarily to blame, and maybe I should have lead with that more than I did, but if you don't think for a god damn second, that women in todays society have a choice, more so than ever before to stop "conforming"(Hey, it's like there's this amazing device that lets us share opinions and feelings across great distances allowing many people together to make a movement or an idea happen over great distances) then I dunno what to say to you. You'll just blame me and stick more fucking words in my mouth and act above me more.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;39743265]Wait guys, I think I got it, you don't know what you're talking about any better than any other asshole posting on this forum. At the end of the day man, I think that women deserve better than what they've got as a whole, but I can't blame it all on men and our actions as if we're the sole oppressors of people over the course of our history. Yeah, we're primarily to blame, and maybe I should have lead with that more than I did, but if you don't think for a god damn second, that women in todays society have a choice, more so than ever before to stop "conforming"(Hey, it's like there's this amazing device that lets us share opinions and feelings across great distances allowing many people together to make a movement or an idea happen over great distances) then I dunno what to say to you. You'll just blame me and stick more fucking words in my mouth and act above me more.[/QUOTE] honestly, cut the melodrama, please, it's seriously annoying

[QUOTE=Ownederd;39743419]honestly, cut the melodrama, please, it's seriously annoying[/QUOTE] how about you just post on topic for once rather than worry about how i'm saying what i'm saying and read what i'm saying beyond the "melodrama".

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;39743465]why is it almost all your posts are off topic telling other people to get on topic or to revise the way they argue to your standards?[/QUOTE] right well i don't think you need to exacerbate this anymore alright

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;39738874]do you get aroused whenever you see your mom's tits? if so, then i feel sorry for you, if not, then i just disproved your shit biotruths are shit, stop making excuses to objectify women [/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westermarck_effect[/url]

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;39743265]Wait guys, I think I got it, you don't know what you're talking about any better than any other asshole posting on this forum. At the end of the day man, I think that women deserve better than what they've got as a whole, but I can't blame it all on men and our actions as if we're the sole oppressors of people over the course of our history. Yeah, we're primarily to blame, and maybe I should have lead with that more than I did, but if you don't think for a god damn second, that women in todays society have a choice, more so than ever before to stop "conforming"(Hey, it's like there's this amazing device that lets us share opinions and feelings across great distances allowing many people together to make a movement or an idea happen over great distances) then I dunno what to say to you. You'll just blame me and stick more fucking words in my mouth and act above me more.[/QUOTE] but im pretty sure i know more than you, mr. i fucked up with my misogyny so let me backpedal at mach 5 speed to try save face,fuck fukc fuck fuck fuck fuuuuck!!!!!!!!!!!!! you posted a video with a woman saying feminism objectifies women more ( good job using her as a prop to uselessly reinforce your belief, let me get a black man who says black people are more racist than blacks as evidence too!), then act as if women have an easy time making that choice then backpedal more saying I NEVAH SAID DAT, FUCK FUCK, I SAID THEY HAD A CHOICE SHIT SHIT, DOESNT MEAN I SAID IT WAS EASY, FUCK FUCK!!! cause belive it or not, [B]while women have a choice, its hard to fucking choose it cause of the social norm[/B], and stop bullshitting to yourself and others, you're implying its easy by stating anyone can overcome it cause they have a choice, remind me to tell a rape victim to choose not to be traumatized and make sure you defend me when she gets offended okay??? you can try stop using 'i didnt say specifically that fuck fuck' card and admit you're backpedaling hard because your post was full of misogyny that pretended just because women have choices, they should just take it cause it's soooo easssyyyyyyy!!!!!!! [quote] So a struggle is going to be a struggle is what you're saying? Cause it was never going to be easy for anyone to get out of this situation, that doesn't mean that not taking part in it yourself isn't a valid fucking way to go about it. [/quote] btw this entire quote is idiotic and stupid, stop saying 'its not easy' when you're clearly trying implying the other option is wrong and its all your fault for not choosing it, but i guess its kind of useless trying to tell a privileged white guy the context of the situation [quote]but I can't blame it all on men and our actions as if we're the sole oppressors of people over the course of our history. Yeah, we're primarily to blame[/quote] ahahahhaaahaha [B]ahahhahahahahhahaha[/B] [B][I]ahahhahahahahhahahahahahahah[/I][/B] [B][I][U]ahahhahahahahahhahahahahaahahahahahahaa[/U][/I][/B] were you high when you were making this post, cause that makes no sense you cant blame sexism on men when they were the primary people to blame? who else instated a patriarchy all around the world? martians? and i dont wanna act above you, you're obviously so high up in your misogynistic high horse our NASA scientists cant track you, thats scary edit: [IMG]http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/35513132.jpg[/IMG]

"He likened the violence in Django Unchained to “a Chris Brown & Rihanna date movie"" LMFAO

I notice that whenever these threads happen, it's always the same few people arguing for the misogynistic side that they have since been given titles about it (like mobrockers2 for example)

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;39743636]but im pretty sure i know more than you, mr. i fucked up with my misogyny so let me backpedal at mach 5 speed to try save face,fuck fukc fuck fuck fuck fuuuuck!!!!!!!!!!!!! [B]Except i'm not backpedling. You put those words in my mouth to make your argument. [/B] you posted a video with a woman saying feminism objectifies women more ( good job using her as a prop to uselessly reinforce your belief, let me get a black man who says black people are more racist than blacks as evidence too!), then act as if women have an easy time making that choice then backpedal more saying I NEVAH SAID DAT, FUCK FUCK, I SAID THEY HAD A CHOICE SHIT SHIT, DOESNT MEAN I SAID IT WAS EASY, FUCK FUCK!!! cause belive it or not, [B]while women have a choice, its hard to fucking choose it cause of the social norm[/B], and stop bullshitting to yourself and others, you're implying its easy by stating anyone can overcome it cause they have a choice, remind me to tell a rape victim to choose not to be traumatized and make sure you defend me when she gets offended okay??? [B]I said that women should make a choice and this makes me a fucking misogynist? Really? Are YOU fucking high? I guess if I think women/men should both work to get rid of that mind set i'm a fucking mysoginist, sorry I forgot to read "lolwutdudes authority on sexism, misogyny and racism"[/B] you can try stop using 'i didnt say specifically that fuck fuck' card and admit you're backpedaling hard because your post was full of misogyny that pretended just because women have choices, they should just take it cause it's soooo easssyyyyyyy!!!!!!! [B]But It's not even that i didn't specifically said it, it's that I didn't say what you said I said, AT ALL. Period.[/B] btw this entire quote is idiotic and stupid, stop saying 'its not easy' when you're clearly trying implying the other option is wrong and its all your fault for not choosing it, but i guess its kind of useless trying to tell a privileged white guy the context of the situation [B]Be more of a dick, I'm sure to see your point and value it as a point of inteligence. Or you could scream at me I'm a moron and I can't know anything and that I'm things that I'm not and win the argument in your head, I guess. [/B] ahahahhaaahaha [B]ahahhahahahahhahaha[/B] [B][I]ahahhahahahahhahahahahahahah[/I][/B] [B][I][U]ahahhahahahahahhahahahahaahahahahahahaa[/U][/I][/B] were you high when you were making this post, cause that makes no sense you cant blame sexism on men when they were the primary people to blame? who else instated a patriarchy all around the world? martians? [B]So I guess the colour grey doesn't make sense to you and life is all black and white?[/B] and i dont wanna act above you, you're obviously so high up in your misogynistic high horse our NASA scientists cant track you, thats scary [B]I'm not acting above anyone. I'm not acting like I know the answers. Have you seen how you're acting and posting and belittling anyone who doesn't view things JUST like you do? [/B] edit: [IMG]http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/35513132.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

nvm snip im tired sorry

[QUOTE=Ownederd;39744000]okay? why did you quote his entire post without saying anything. what are you even saying or implying. are you taking the piss out of him in some way?[/QUOTE] hey, more proof you don't read posts you reply to how about you read the bold shit...?

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;39744007]hey, more proof you don't read posts you reply to how about you read the bold shit...?[/QUOTE] ok nvm snipped i would say that this is really ironic (what you said to lolwutdude) but i don't wanna start a shit flinging contest and you're really pushing the lines between being rational and being overly emotional and melodramatic

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;39743937][/QUOTE] you're still backpedaling so hard all that fuel you're burning is gonna melt the icecap! and here you are again pretending women making a choice to go against social norm is such an easy thing to do! "fucking women should just choose to go against social norm, FUCK FUCK FUCK, WHY WON'T THEY, DONT THEY KNOW MISOGYNY IN THE PRESENT IS ALREADY GONE??? oh fuck, let me just say that isn't what i mean and have a complete set of contradictory standards ( choices are hard but its the womens' fault if she doesnt choose it! ) cause i can't acknowledge im wrong, fuckity fuck fuck!!" and get rid of what mindset, you're supporting it, just look back at this thread you hypocrite, actually acknowledge you're the one living in a black and white world cause in your eyes, a woman who has to conform is weak because any women can choose to be herself without being labeled a slut or a whore in modern times, right?? and that statement still doesnt make sense, how do you say men can't be blamed for it when they're the primary people who caused the patriarchy?? the only dick here is you, im not belittling you, im calling you out for your misogynistic and profanity written bullshit btw, nice job making suicide look casual and encouraging anyone who likes to engage in fandom over a tv show should kill themselves, you are a paragon and credit to humanity!!!

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;39744082]you're still backpedaling so hard all that fuel you're burning is gonna melt the icecap! and here you are again pretending women making a choice to go against social norm is such an easy thing to do! "fucking women should just choose to go against social norm, FUCK FUCK FUCK, WHY WON'T THEY, DONT THEY KNOW MISOGYNY IN THE PRESENT IS ALREADY GONE??? oh fuck, let me just say that isn't what i mean and have a complete set of contradictory standards ( choices are hard but its the womens' fault if she doesnt choose it! ) cause i can't acknowledge im wrong, fuckity fuck fuck!!" and get rid of what mindset, you're supporting it, just look back at this thread you hypocrite, actually acknowledge you're the one living in a black and white world cause in your eyes, a woman who has to conform is weak because any women can choose to be herself without being labeled a slut or a whore in modern times, right?? and that statement still doesnt make sense, how do you say men can't be blamed for it when they're the primary people who caused the patriarchy?? the only dick here is you, im not belittling you, im calling you out for your misogynistic and profanity written bullshit btw, nice job making suicide look casual and encouraging anyone who likes to engage in fandom over a tv show should kill themselves, you are a paragon and credit to humanity!!![/QUOTE] I'm not backpedaling as I at the writing of my posts and as of now, did not, and do not intend any sort of misogynistic ideas. I love how you put your little sarcasm with all that swearing to get across what a loud mouthed foul mouthed buffoon I must be, but I honestly look at what you're doing with out a pang of guilt or discomfort because it's so fucking childish. You're acting like I've slapped a lot of fault onto a lot of people here and done nothing but blame women for the place they're in. I haven't. I'm not supporting that mindset. I'm not labelling anyone. I'm not saying anything along the lines of "people who don't make that choice should be shamed" or anything you're implying I am. It's tiring to have this argument because I'm having to say more about what I haven't said than what I have said, I've had to defend myself from words you've put in my mouth more than speak about the issue, get called a misogynist for honestly believing that women are their own way out from here, not men. But of course, i'm still a misogynist and a bad person and supporting a culture of oppression that I don't support in real life or with my posts and of course, one white knight of supreme moraltude with perfect answers to really rather difficult moral conundrums can sum it all up and call everyone that doesn't have that mirror view a misogynist and everything else bad that can be said.

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;39744082] "fucking women should just choose to go against social norm, FUCK FUCK FUCK, WHY WON'T THEY, DONT THEY KNOW MISOGYNY IN THE PRESENT IS ALREADY GONE??? oh fuck, let me just say that isn't what i mean and have a complete set of contradictory standards ( choices are hard but its the womens' fault if she doesnt choose it! ) cause i can't acknowledge im wrong, fuckity fuck fuck!!"[/QUOTE] He has literally said "fuck" 3 times in this thread (that's one more than thisispain, who you'd never attack for it). You attacking him for it have said it many times more than that, and it still doesn't make a valid argument. If you want to argue, argue with his ideas, not that he said a word you don't like.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;39744151]But of course, i'm still a misogynist and a bad person and supporting a culture of oppression[/QUOTE] at least you can admit it by the way here you go: [url]http://www.teslamotors.com/[/url] when you backpedal with this car, its eco-friendly, though i dont know what will help you with your constant denial

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;39744188]at least you can admit it by the way here you go: [url]http://www.teslamotors.com/[/url] when you backpedal with this car, its eco-friendly, though i dont know what will help you with your constant denial[/QUOTE] thanks for the quality argument about points and ideas where ideas where passed back and for- oh i mean thanks for parodying me worse than a bad south park episode and thanks for being a complete and utterly useless moral white knight unable to discuss anything and only capable of throwing backhanded, mildly witty insults Thanks so much lolwutdude, you've REALLY opened my eyes up to how stupid it is to argue with a person who has NO FUCKING INTENT of arguing, and only of attacking and diminishing your character, and never your points or ideas. you're a real credit to this website.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;39744223]thanks for the quality argument about points and ideas where ideas where passed back and for- oh i mean thanks for parodying me worse than a bad south park episode and thanks for being a complete and utterly useless moral white knight unable to discuss anything and only capable of throwing backhanded, mildly witty insults Thanks so much lolwutdude, you've REALLY opened my eyes up to how stupid it is to argue with a person who has NO FUCKING INTENT of arguing, and only of attacking and diminishing your character, and never your points or ideas. you're a real credit to this website.[/QUOTE] i dont know what to argue against a post which is all backpedaling, saying you're not a misogynist ( which you are), and reiterating what you're not even though all your posts are saying it's the women's fault for not making a choice because it's the 21st century therefore going against social norm is so easy they can do it instantly when presented with the idea they can???? and im a white knight for calling you out on being a misogynist and making fun of suicides? ( cause a depressed human being killing themselves is so funny xD) cause i think it isn't!!! while i like your gratitude, i think you can pay me back not in form of texts in a forum, but rather educating yourself cause it seems you don't know gender issues enough but thanks :)

if women want equal rights be prepared for equal fights

Boo hoo someone made a joke directed at someone else. K'know its funny, tons of ethnic comedians like russel peters, chris rock, and tons of others can get away with racist/offensive jokes, and people just laugh, but when someone like Seth does it, they get bombarded with criticism. In regards to the whole boob song thing, yeah I could see how people could be embarrassed at that, but it was their choice to expose themselves in a film that a literal billion or more people are going to see, and they should just take it in a better light, its not like they were forced into it and he was making some sort of rape joke. Seriously, everyone needs stop being so sensitive about everything, shit happens, get over it already.

[QUOTE=Neo Kabuto;39744171]He has literally said "fuck" 3 times in this thread (that's one more than thisispain, who you'd never attack for it). You attacking him for it have said it many times more than that, and it still doesn't make a valid argument. If you want to argue, argue with his ideas, not that he said a word you don't like.[/QUOTE] but he's not attacking him for saying that

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;39744269]i dont know what to argue against a post which is all backpedaling, saying you're not a misogynist ( which you are), and reiterating what you're not even though all your posts are saying it's the women's fault for not making a choice because it's the 21st century therefore going against social norm is so easy they can do it instantly when presented with the idea they can???? and im a white knight for calling you out on being a misogynist and making fun of suicides? ( cause a depressed human being killing themselves is so funny xD) while i like your gratitude, i think you can pay me back not in form of texts in a forum, but rather educating yourself cause it seems you don't know gender issues enough but thanks :)[/QUOTE] I'm not a misogynist. You're assuming you know me from these posts, all of which you've misinterpreted and filtered and thrown words in my mouth to strengthen your position, you've done nothing but that in this "argument". Just because I believe that womens view of themselves, towards each other as a whole is something they can participate in changing I'm a misogynist? Good to know. Just thinking that they have a part in this, a choice as it where, is misogny? That's... absurd. Seriously, I wish you could see something from outside your own perspective, and you're calling someone a misognist, and that person is saying that to you. My privledge in this conversation is far less present than you've made it seem. Men need to change their views as well, and for fucks sakes, how can I say this and by a misognyst? How can i believe that men and women who slut shame or choose how a person can express themselves or can't, are wrong and should let people do as they want to, and as they choose to be misognyistic? How can you sum up more of my views from assumptions here than what you hvae done now? Not only did you blow my swearing amount of the water to make fun of me, what else could you have done to totally just disregard my views and interpret them in a way that you want? You guys act like I'm being a ho-slapping pimp when I feel for a moment that it isn't just men who need to change their perceptions of the opposite sex but it's also them, but I don't see it. You want people to examine their views? You want them to look at their own views and question some of them? You know how DON'T do that? How YOU handled this entire fucking conversation. [editline]27th February 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Shadaez;39744321]but he's not attacking him for saying that[/QUOTE] Says you? Cause that's not how it reads or seems to me, or him It certainly feels like attacking, it certainly seems to not be the issue at hand but some how more present in those posts than it has any reason to be if isn't an "attack".

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;39744329]text no i'm not quoting all of what you said in order to preserve some space in the thread[/QUOTE] okay, let's boil this down a bit: you're just going in circles with your flaky argument. you are being called out for poor judgement, act on the critique if you really value it

[QUOTE=Shadaez;39744321]but he's not attacking him for saying that[/QUOTE] At first I thought his posts with the rows of "fuck fuck shit fuck" and the random "fuck fuck"s everywhere weren't, but then this happened: [QUOTE=lolwutdude;39744082]the only dick here is you, im not belittling you, im calling you out for your misogynistic and profanity written bullshit[/QUOTE]

it's true though

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;39744329]I'm not a misogynist. You're assuming you know me from these posts, all of which you've misinterpreted and filtered and thrown words in my mouth to strengthen your position, you've done nothing but that in this "argument". Just because I believe that womens view of themselves, towards each other as a whole is something they can participate in changing I'm a misogynist? Good to know. Just thinking that they have a part in this, a choice as it where, is misogny? That's... absurd. Seriously, I wish you could see something from outside your own perspective, and you're calling someone a misognist, and that person is saying that to you. My privledge in this conversation is far less present than you've made it seem. Men need to change their views as well, and for fucks sakes, how can I say this and by a misognyst? How can i believe that men and women who slut shame or choose how a person can express themselves or can't, are wrong and should let people do as they want to, and as they choose to be misognyistic? How can you sum up more of my views from assumptions here than what you hvae done now? Not only did you blow my swearing amount of the water to make fun of me, what else could you have done to totally just disregard my views and interpret them in a way that you want? You guys act like I'm being a ho-slapping pimp when I feel for a moment that it isn't just men who need to change their perceptions of the opposite sex but it's also them, but I don't see it. You want people to examine their views? You want them to look at their own views and question some of them? You know how DON'T do that? How YOU handled this entire fucking conversation.[/QUOTE] good job trying to pretend what you're saying now was said earlier, that was some hardcore backpedaling, if you were in a backpedal competition, i'd give you a gold medal, but you're fooling no one okay??? cause im not the one who said women should make a choice and it's all so easy now in the 21st century cause of the internet and going against social norm is so simple, then realizing what i said was a heap of misogynistic bullshit and revamping everything i said to make myself look better, that's you mate. it wasnt i that said men wasn't the primary cause of the oppressive patriarchy but still can't blame it on men, it was you. now you're trying to pretend to be some sort of moral paragon which you're not cause im pretty sure you realized what you said earlier was complete bullshit ps: im not trying to make you examine your views, you're well entrenched in your MRA mindset that not even the best shovel can dig you out, you're backpedaling so hard, you're digging the ground below you to the core of the earth

[QUOTE=Ownederd;39744372]okay, let's boil this down a bit: you're just going in circles with your flaky argument. you are being called out for poor judgement, act on the critique if you really value it[/QUOTE] and the critique is? That thinking it's that easy for women to just change their situation? But I don't think it's "that" easy. What's the critique? That I say fuck and it gets turned into an absurd abscess in a equally bad argument made against me? Is it that I'm a misogynist? cause that's not a critique, that's just being called something that doesn't sit paralell to my own belief systems. The critique here has been of my character and of my posting style, not of my arguements. I have stated it very clearly what my point of view is at this point in time and it has only gotten me called a misogynist. how can I take that critique to make it of any use? I can't because it's meaningless in the scope of things. It's an assumption of my views based on one set of arguments, one set of posts. It's not accurate in any sense. [editline]27th February 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=lolwutdude;39744407]good job trying to pretend what you're saying now was said earlier, that was some hardcore backpedaling, if you were in a backpedal competition, i'd give you a gold medal, but you're fooling no one okay??? cause im not the one who said women should make a choice and it's all so easy now in the 21st century cause of the internet and going against social norm is so simple, then realizing what i said was a heap of misogynistic bullshit and revamping everything i said to make myself look better, that's you mate. it wasnt i that said men wasn't the primary cause of the oppressive patriarchy but still can't blame it on men, it was you. now you're trying to pretend to be some sort of moral paragon which you're not cause im pretty sure you realized what you said earlier was complete bullshit ps: im not trying to make you examine your views, you're well entrenched in your MRA mindset that not even the best shovel can dig you out, you're backpedaling so hard, you're digging the ground below you to the core of the earth[/QUOTE] I backpedaled. Fine. I made posts that didn't represent my full thoughts on the manner. Fine. Now lets see what other personal insults you can throw at me full of assumptions(lol mra). no one could WANT to change their opinions with an ass like you, you're nothing but rude.