#WomenAgainstFeminism goes viral as people explain why they don't need feminism anymore
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do they want a medal or something
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;45567554]We're talking about an ideology here, not race.[/QUOTE]
i don't think you know what muslim means
that first image is pretty sick but the rest of them are kinda sad
[editline]1st August 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;45567586]i don't think you know what muslim means[/QUOTE]
'brown' in all cases
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;45567406]How about we form some kind of "gender equality movement" or something. You know. Instead of having this MRA v Feminism thing.[/QUOTE]
the only people who are actually spelling out that feminism is somehow not for women and men are people like you
you're just trying to add scare tactics to a word
[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;45567555]Based on their wording, I sincerely doubt they understand the difference.[/QUOTE]
Based on their wording, I don't think they even understand what feminism is. This one really takes the prize, all of her points are hilariously bad but...
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[B]"I know that in the blessed misterious distance between men and women is hidden the secret of God."[/B]
[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;45567634]Based on their wording, I don't think they even understand what feminism is. This one really takes the prize, all of her points are hilariously bad but...
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[B]"I know that in the blessed misterious distance between men and women is hidden the secret of God."[/B][/QUOTE]
"I don't need feminism because my spelling class takes place at the same time as gender studies and I need the former first"
i like all the slut-shaming ones. great reason to not need feminism, because we need to continue demonizing women for being sexual
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;45567406]How about we form some kind of "gender equality movement" or something. You know. Instead of having this MRA v Feminism thing.[/QUOTE]
Sooooo...Feminism?
Despite how much you love to think it isn't, Feminism is for equality of both genders. However, as there is currently more inequality that negatively effects women, that is where the focus is obviously going to be. Things like "mens rights" are largely a laughing stock, a splinter of neo-reactionary ideologies upheld by dudebros and teens with massive victim complexes, but who aren't brave enough to go full reactionary.
The cool thing about about being a feminist is that I can look at a bunch of women choosing not to identify as feminists and say "cool, that's their choice" instead of sprouting the biggest boner of my life because my side just scored a point.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;45567653]Sooooo...Feminism?
Despite how much you love to think it isn't, Feminism is for equality of both genders. However, as there is currently more inequality that negatively effects women, that is where the focus is obviously going to be. Things like "mens rights" are largely a laughing stock, a splinter of neo-reactionary ideologies upheld by dudebros and teens with massive victim complexes, but who aren't brave enough to go full reactionary.[/QUOTE]
rangergxi says shit like that all the time but he also constantly posts threads shitting on any kind of feminism, it's obvious he doesn't actually give a crap about a gender equality movement he just hates feminism
[QUOTE=hexpunK;45567653]Sooooo...Feminism?
Despite how much you love to think it isn't, Feminism is for equality of both genders. However, as there is currently more inequality that negatively effects women, that is where the focus is obviously going to be. Things like "mens rights" are largely a laughing stock, a splinter of neo-reactionary ideologies upheld by dudebros and teens with massive victim complexes, but who aren't brave enough to go full reactionary.[/QUOTE]
The whole point of equality is that the end result will be equality regardless of what you call your movement.
The reason MRAs don't like feminism is because their end goal simply isn't equality. Well, I can't say that since I can't speak to the motivation of every MRA, but the things that MRAs choose to do will never result in equality.
The problem with feminism is that all those radical "feminist activists" make it seem like a complete joke. You can be a feminist without having to tell the entire world that you are one.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;45567659]The cool thing about about being a feminist is that I can look at a bunch of women choosing not to identify as feminists and say "cool, that's their choice"[B] instead of sprouting the biggest boner of my life because my side just scored a point.[/B][/QUOTE]
You also get the opportunity to complain about straw people.
If this is about tumblr "feminism" then good. If this is about regular feminism then that's less good. I am more worried about the current societal norms of developing countries.
[QUOTE=Code3Response;45567691]The problem with feminism is that all those radical "feminist activists" make it seem like a complete joke. You can be a feminist without having to tell the entire world that you are one.[/QUOTE]
or how about we don't react like, somehow, the loud minority somehow affects normal people
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;45567683]rangergxi says shit like that all the time but he also constantly posts threads shitting on any kind of feminism, it's obvious he doesn't actually give a crap about a gender equality movement he just hates feminism[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'm more than aware of his consistent dumbassery about these subjects. But having his posts go unchallenged just makes the MRAs rock solid for days on end, and well, that's painful for everybody really.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;45567653]Sooooo...Feminism?
Despite how much you love to think it isn't, Feminism is for equality of both genders. However, as there is currently more inequality that negatively effects women, that is where the focus is obviously going to be. Things like "mens rights" are largely a laughing stock, a splinter of neo-reactionary ideologies upheld by dudebros and teens with massive victim complexes, but who aren't brave enough to go full reactionary.[/QUOTE]
You can't argue that feminism and the word feminist has taken a MAJOR change in meaning to the average person nowadays due to radicals and tumblerinos.
I find this sort of thing quite embarrassing, honestly, and am very happy to see this getting dumbs. What people need to realize is that the world does not revolve around them, just because you do not feel oppressed or that you need feminism, does not mean that everyone thinks the same way or is indeed the same position.
Also what's even worse is that most of the women seem to be white and almost all of the arguments they've written on paper are often said by misogynists.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;45567659]The cool thing about about being a feminist is that I can look at a bunch of women choosing not to identify as feminists and say "cool, that's their choice" instead of sprouting the biggest boner of my life because my side just scored a point.[/QUOTE]
Is that really a result of your feminism or your personal views? Not to say the ideas of feminism support the contrary but some might see the opposite as your side scoring a point. The debate has never been one of fighting either side as a whole but one of discrediting the extremists that discredit the major movements.
also before anyone forgets, the OP did this post in a serious fashion:
[URL]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1376979&p=44271933&viewfull=1#post44271933[/URL]
gosh diddley darn it why do you act the way you do varg666
[QUOTE=Code3Response;45567691]The problem with feminism is that all those radical "feminist activists" make it seem like a complete joke. You can be a feminist without having to tell the entire world that you are one.[/QUOTE]
"radicals" are what give a movement traction. Sure people might have slightly lesser views of the movement for a while after a "radical" does something dumb. But the idea is there now, they are aware of the movement. Given time and proper education from mainstream members of the movement, people who had no idea about a movement can become pretty well educated about it.
[editline]2nd August 2014[/editline]
But fuck slacktivists. The guys on Tumblr and the likes that just bitch about things and do nothing aren't helping in any way, shape, or form.
[QUOTE=Code3Response;45567691]The problem with feminism is that all those radical "feminist activists" make it seem like a complete joke. You can be a feminist without having to tell the entire world that you are one.[/QUOTE]
there is not a single decent movement/organization in the entire world if we're going to judge them by radicals
[QUOTE=Ownederd;45567732]also before anyone forgets, the OP did this post in a serious fashion:
[URL]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1376979&p=44271933&viewfull=1#post44271933[/URL]
gosh diddley darn it why do you act the way you do varg666[/QUOTE]
I didn't know we got to the point where we dig up posts with little to no relation to the topic just to diss our opponents.
Did 4chan start this hashtag campaign too?
[QUOTE=Ownederd;45567732]also before anyone forgets, the OP did this post in a serious fashion:
[URL]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1376979&p=44271933&viewfull=1#post44271933[/URL]
gosh diddley darn it why do you act the way you do varg666[/QUOTE]
my god that entire post is filled with so much misconceptions lol
typical non-asian stereotyping what samurais were
[QUOTE=Ownederd;45567701]or how about we don't react like, somehow, the loud minority somehow affects normal people[/QUOTE]
Well, they do. There seems to be a vast misconception of what feminism is and it spreads by the loud minority "educating" people who don't know better. I'd love to say they don't affect normal people but viral campaigns are the easiest way to spread your message to the masses nowadays.
[QUOTE=Thlis;45567749]I didn't know we got to the point where we dig up posts with little to no relation to the topic just to diss our opponents.[/QUOTE]
it's kinda obvious that varg666 has a massive discomfort (that he needs to get over) with cultural movements that are more inherently feminine (or used to be) and this thread is pretty good proof of it
I think that it is somewhat disappointing that you mock them for their non acceptance of feminism. If they do not think they need feminism that is their opinion and thy have a right to have it. Maybe starting an intelligent conversation on the matter would be helpful, but I doubt that mocking them for their spelling and saying they are idiots for not accepting the same ideals as you is helping anything at all
[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;45567729]Is that really a result of your feminism or your personal views? Not to say the ideas of feminism support the contrary but some might see the opposite as your side scoring a point. The debate has never been one of fighting either side as a whole but one of discrediting the extremists that discredit the major movements.[/QUOTE]
I have no doubt that plenty of feminists play the "gender wars" as well as MRAs do, because I've seen it, but feminism isn't the reactionary movement here and isn't the one playing this whole thing up as some kind of demented game where they win by dragging the other side down to their level.
[QUOTE=Ownederd;45567773]it's kinda obvious that varg666 has a massive discomfort (that he needs to get over) with cultural movements that are more inherently feminine (or used to be) and this thread is pretty good proof of it[/QUOTE]
You are doing a whole lot of guess work on that.
I personally think you are just posting it to discredit, It's a dumb post but bringing it up doesn't contribute to the discussion,
[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;45567778]I think that it is somewhat disappointing that you mock them for their non acceptance of feminism. If they do not think they need feminism that is their opinion and thy have a right to have it. Maybe starting an intelligent conversation on the matter would be helpful, but I doubt that mocking them for their spelling and saying they are idiots for not accepting the same ideals as you is helping anything at all[/QUOTE]
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i dunno someone that says shit like this deserves to be mocked
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