Because one Iron Man is apparently not enough: Doctor Doom to become new Iron Man as well
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[QUOTE=AaronM202;50676415]I wonder how long it'll be before someone comes in and insinuates we're being racist because Doom is Romani.[/QUOTE]
you're just insecure with yourself
[QUOTE=WillerinV1.02;50676743]you're just insecure with yourself[/QUOTE]
Little rascal.
seems like comic writers can't make any decisions these days without people bitching about it endlessly
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judging them by their covers
[QUOTE=bitches;50676959]seems like comic writers can't make any decisions these days without people bitching about it endlessly[/QUOTE]
Mostly because a lot of Marvel writers are shit and keep making shit decisions.
[QUOTE=bitches;50676959]seems like comic writers can't make any decisions these days without people bitching about it endlessly[/QUOTE]
Brian Michael Bendis tends to ignore other writer's ongoing canon and stories, and has in the past ignored his own stories and canon. I would say for at least 10 years he has difficulty making up his own mind, to be honest.
-snip lol-
[QUOTE=bitches;50676959]seems like comic writers can't make any decisions these days without people bitching about it endlessly
[editline]8th July 2016[/editline]
judging them by their covers[/QUOTE]
Okay shortstuff, lemme give you a history lesson.
First off, lets start with the writer behind this garbage: Brian Michael FUCKING Bendis. The man who mutilated and destroyed the cosmic Marvel comics and destroyed the Guardians of The Galaxy. Unoriginal hack who writes like the epitome of masterful dialogue is the codec conversation at the start of MGS1 about the Surveillance Camera. The mans writing is irritating, contrived, stupid. He cant write separate characters, everyone quips and talks like a wacky idea of what this 30 year old dude out of touch with reality thinks teens talk like. He doesnt give a single fuck about consistent characterization or continuity, this is the perfect example, this is so out of tune with the character of Victor Von Doom that its unreal. I could go on for days about him. I mean for gods sake the man ripped apart and made a totally new Guardians Of The Galaxy team just so he could mix the movie cast with, and i quote, to make it "Jews in Space."
Second, Marvels track record. For the past few years, they've existed and thrived off of one single concept: Pissing people off gets them money. They shit over the history of their characters and universe to make moolah, without a care in the world. Replacing characters left and right to fill this strange, needless minority replacement quota, leading to bland uninteresting cardboard cutouts with sloppy attempts at being progressive as their paintjob replacing actual characters like Thor or Iron Man. They dont care. Sometimes, sometimes, this turns out alright, or it makes sense with the history of the characters, but not often. Kamala Khan? Lucky. Jane Foster as Thor? Idiotic. Miles Morales? Interesting, but quickly turned into a boring OP OC who's fights come down to "VENOM BLAST". Etc.
Theres a reason people keep bitching about the stupid shit [b]MARVEL[/b] has been doing. You dont hear people bitch like this about DC, Image, Valiant, Dakrhorse, IDW, or anyone else, because theres nothing to get this upset over. DC is Marvels direct competition and they're doing new, interesting things with their characters that isnt taking a massive steaming dump on who those characters are and how they've been written for decades. Image, Valiant, Darkhorse, IDW dont care about exploiting weird statistic boost tactics to gain sales, they put out comics and they get bought, end of story.
Marvel has turned to shit, thats why people are bitching. Its not because writers are doing something new. Its because they're doing something new and stupid.
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[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;50677016]really dude[/QUOTE]
Yes.
[b]Really.[/b]
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Hey look, its starting again.
People who dont read comics coming in and telling us to stop being annoyed when people do stupid shit in comics, despite these writing decisions being something that'd get assblasted if it was in a game, book, or movie.
dont touch doom you FUCKS
So... When are we getting another Ms. Marvel? :vs:
Still more interesting than obligatory gender/race swapped Iron Man
reboot when
they need to fire bendis asap. that guy is the geoff johns of marvel.
[QUOTE=Seerus;50677880]Still more interesting than obligatory gender/race swapped Iron Man[/QUOTE]
Only more interesting because the character taking the mantle already has 50 years of history.
[editline]9th July 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Pops;50677896]reboot when
they need to fire bendis asap. that guy is the geoff johns of marvel.[/QUOTE]
I thought Geoff Johns was doing fine?
He wrote DC Rebirth and apparently is partially behind the initiative, that puts him leagues above Word Memes.
[QUOTE=WhySoSeriouz;50677421]So... When are we getting another Ms. Marvel? :vs:[/QUOTE]
Oh I can't wait for this.
"Are you Miss Marvel?"
*double page spread of the same two panels over and over*
"I'm Mrs. Ms. Marvel."
[QUOTE=27X;50677917]Oh I can't wait for this.
"Are you Miss Marvel?"
*double page spread of the same two panels over and over*
"I'm Mrs. Ms. Marvel."[/QUOTE]
[img]http://www.page45.com/store/Jessica%20Jones%20Alias%20vol%201%202.jpg[/img]
I wish you were exaggerating.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;50677925][img]http://www.page45.com/store/Jessica%20Jones%20Alias%20vol%201%202.jpg[/img]
I wish you were exaggerating.[/QUOTE]
holy shit that's disgusting
[QUOTE=AaronM202;50678313][t]http://i.imgur.com/5fca3jq.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
is this by the Bendis guy
Doctor Doom actually stole iron mans suits in a comic.
Victor Doom and Norman Osborn should become iron bros now
[QUOTE=AaronM202;50678313][t]http://i.imgur.com/5fca3jq.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
:words:
God damn. This is just unpleasant to look at.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;50677925][img]http://www.page45.com/store/Jessica%20Jones%20Alias%20vol%201%202.jpg[/img]
I wish you were exaggerating.[/QUOTE]
how lazy do you have to be to literally reuse basically the same drawings lmao
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every single drawing and page should be completely unique to itself
the moment you copy and paste an entire scene you've already failed
At least they won't do this with The Punisher, right?
Right?
[QUOTE=J!NX;50678405]how lazy do you have to be to literally reuse basically the same drawings lmao
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You think that's lazy, let me tell you about a certain cockmongler called Greg Land.
[QUOTE=SuperPlamz;50678448]At least they won't do this with The Punisher, right?
Right?[/QUOTE]
Oddly enough, the Punisher was black once. Through surgery he changed his skin colour.
Yeah, comics are really fucking weird.
[QUOTE=J!NX;50678405]
every single drawing and page should be completely unique to itself
the moment you copy and paste an entire scene you've already failed[/QUOTE]
A good recent example of doing a scene where people are sitting around talking about something without being a lazy asshole about it is from Dark Knight: Last Crusade.
[t]http://www.readcomics.net/images/manga/the-dark-knight-returns-the-last-crusade/1/8.jpg[/t]
Thats how it should be done. Not literally reusing the same few panels except erase a detail there add a detail here.
Might be cheating since John Romita Jr penciled it and, if im not mistaken, Frank Miller did the layouts. Thats a visual storytelling one-two fucking combo if there ever was one.
Then again, all comics should strive to be good. Silly me for having standards.
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[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50678468]Oddly enough, the Punisher was black once. Through surgery he changed his skin colour.
Yeah, comics are really fucking weird.[/QUOTE]
Theres also a black Punisher kinda dude, but he never actually REPLACED Punisher. He was inspired by him to become a Punisher type vigilante and wears the symbol. He's british, i think.
Thankfully, the Punisher is in a sweet spot where he's just popular enough to get serious talent on his books from time to time, movies, games, and TV shows, but just fringe enough not to become a mainstream Marvel staple and get raped by the Bendis crew.
Its probably because its nigh-impossible to do him without the comic being straight up M rated.
[QUOTE=SuperPlamz;50678448]At least they won't do this with The Punisher, right?
Right?[/QUOTE]
Oh, but [URL="http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Frank_Castle_(Earth-616)"]they already have.[/URL]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/XSjN0Bv.jpg[/img]
[quote]After his death at the hands of Daken, Castle was resurrected by Morbius and the Legion of Monsters as a patchwork Frankenstein-like creature to help them against a group of Samurai-like men lead by the mysterious Hellsgaard, who killed monsters for "not being of God". At first Frank refused to help them out and disappeared into the sewers. The Living Mummy later tried to reason with him and showed him Wolfman's armory.[/quote]
Regardless of what they choose to do with Punisher, in my mind Punisher starts and ends with Ennis's run.
Everything else, before and after, is just amateur fanfic to me.
Isn't Doctor Doom already made of metal? So he's a metal man in an Iron Man suit....
[QUOTE=Simplemac3;50676681]Big thing i'm really hoping greater audiences realize about big comics and Marvel in particular:
[thumb]http://i.imgur.com/JZVcOmD.jpg[/thumb]
As much as they try to deny that they're doing inane left-field shit to piss people off for attention, it's really obvious they've been doing it for years. Decades, even. If you want to support them writing good stories instead of writing in shit they know is stupid out of hopes of getting outrage sales, stop supporting it. Don't buy these books, even for a laugh.[/QUOTE]
Like I said in the first thread, This isn't sustainable. Gimmicks boost readership temporarily, but if the readers aren't satisfied with how the gimmick is handled it's very likely to result in a net loss.
Marvel comics have pretty much gone down the shitter lately, so no surprise.
[QUOTE=Tetsmega;50678725]Isn't Doctor Doom already made of metal? So he's a metal man in an Iron Man suit....[/QUOTE]
Nah, wears a metal suit to cover his body.
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[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;50678581]Oh, but [URL="http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Frank_Castle_(Earth-616)"]they already have.[/URL]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/XSjN0Bv.jpg[/img]
Regardless of what they choose to do with Punisher, in my mind Punisher starts and ends with Ennis's run.
Everything else, before and after, is just amateur fanfic to me.[/QUOTE]
Ennis' run is MAX which is a separate canon anyway. 616 Frank has done plenty of goofy shit
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