Scientists (one science-researching opinion blogger) discovers that atheists might not exist - Polidicks

I swear a headline very similar to this was on a either the Onion or Waterford whispers a few months ago.

Writer of the article: [IMG]http://www.science20.com/sites/all/modules/profiles/user-images/avatar/22734.jpg[/IMG]

Even if this guy is completely correct, that still does not mean that god exists, because every person on Earth can believe in him (or them or her or it) and be wrong.

How Can Atheists Be Real If Our Faith Is Real

[QUOTE=Alxnotorious;45347521]This is the most childish slapfight ever. "God doesn't exist!" "No, YOU don't exist!"[/QUOTE] [img]http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Like+a+Deity.+greenish-gray+That+was+a+pretty+prompt+response+if_af26b9_4547879.jpg[/img] Also this article so reminds me of the shit Conservapedia has. "Studies have shown that atheists who convert to Christianity lead better lives!" Goddamn do I hate that site.

Joke's on you science, I don't believe in anything. I guess I don't exist now?

Technically we are all believers, except we believe into different thing and it's proven that humans are naturally religious, for better or worse.

[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;45348582]Technically we are all believers, except we believe into different thing and it's proven that humans are naturally religious, for better or worse.[/QUOTE] No. We naturally search for explanations that put our minds at ease. We are not naturally religious.

How can science be real if our eyes aren't real?

[QUOTE=Explosions;45348335]Even if this guy is completely correct, that still does not mean that god exists, because every person on Earth can believe in him (or them or her or it) and be wrong.[/QUOTE] What if we're actually Orks and if the amount of believers passes a threshold God physically manifests themselves?

[QUOTE=Lijitsu;45348634]No. We naturally search for explanations that put our minds at ease. [B]We are not naturally religious.[/B][/QUOTE] Which is why essentially every society out there has some sort of belief system, and Humanity's been practicing religion even before "Humanity" was a thing? To deny spirituality is to deny a basic aspect of what makes us Human.

Not hard to wrap my head around this. Everyone believes in something, even if it's nothing. Edit: lol at the ratings

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;45348683]Which is why essentially every society out there has some sort of belief system, and Humanity's been practicing religion even before "Humanity" was a thing? To deny spirituality is to deny a basic aspect of what makes us Human.[/QUOTE] Spirituality doesn't require God or to be religious.

[QUOTE=Shinbad;45348731]Spirituality doesn't require God or to be religious.[/QUOTE] Spirituality typically develops into religion.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;45348735]Spirituality typically develops into religion.[/QUOTE] That's irrelevant

[QUOTE=Shinbad;45348742]That's irrelevant[/QUOTE] I disagree.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;45348683]Which is why essentially every society out there has some sort of belief system, and Humanity's been practicing religion even before "Humanity" was a thing?[/QUOTE]Basically. They're hold over from a time when we were much stupider and our ability to understand the universe was almost nonexistent. So we created tales about it, which we felt gave some meaning and presence to the universe and our lives. Turns out there really isn't any meaning to it all, but people still hold to these ideas because they've become so engrained and many still seek purpose and meaning in life. And with that, people in positions of power saw opportunities to consolidate and reinforce their power and the state of society. [QUOTE]To deny spirituality is to deny a basic aspect of what makes us Human.[/QUOTE]No it isn't.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;45348683]Which is why essentially every society out there has some sort of belief system, and Humanity's been practicing religion even before "Humanity" was a thing? To deny spirituality is to deny a basic aspect of what makes us Human.[/QUOTE] I'm not denying spirituality. It's a potential result of our search for meaning in our lives - an answer that helps put our minds at ease. I'm denying that we naturally are bent specifically to assume a deity exists.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;45348754] No it isn't.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry Dr. Breen, but yeah it is. [QUOTE=Lijitsu;45348759]I'm not denying spirituality. It's a potential result of our search for meaning in our lives - an answer that helps put our minds at ease. I'm denying that we naturally are bent specifically to assume a deity exists.[/QUOTE] Religion is a natural development of spirituality, and spirituality is a natural aspect of human nature. I'm just using the transitive property, yo.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;45348788]I'm sorry Dr. Breen, but yeah it is.[/QUOTE]By no means. It is no intrinsic characteristic, it is nothing important to our identity. It doesn't make us, we made it.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;45348788]I'm sorry Dr. Breen, but yeah it is. Religion is a natural development of spirituality, and spirituality is a natural aspect of human nature. I'm just using the transitive property, yo.[/QUOTE] Nah man you are just making baseless connections to prove your own point.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;45348788]I'm sorry Dr. Breen, but yeah it is. Religion is a natural development of spirituality, and spirituality is a natural aspect of human nature. I'm just using the transitive property, yo.[/QUOTE] We naturally seek spirituality, not religion. The only reason why people choose and chose religion as a medium to fulfill their spiritual needs, is because they were never aware of other options.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;45348683]Which is why essentially every society out there has some sort of belief system, and Humanity's been practicing religion even before "Humanity" was a thing? To deny spirituality is to deny a basic aspect of what makes us Human.[/QUOTE] Spirituality is so poorly defined as a concept that it is useless to talk about it until you define exactly what you mean by "spiritual". This same problem exists for those who claim to have a belief in any gods.

Jaysus lads, this thread has certainly taken a big bite out of the shit pie. My nickel here is that we all sort of want to find ourselves and things like religion and spirituality help *some* people do just that. Now this article on the other hand is a bit silly but at the same time not as even atheists do have some alignment of faith. Whoa before you go busting my lactose tube understand that their faith has to do with more of a trust in themselves or the life they are able to live. (The shit tier athiests are the ones who rip down religion and spirituality for no reason other then "muh science UR GOD IS FAEK")

making up excuses for things we don't understand is a base part of wanting to understand stuff. Taking that speculation and lying to say we truly know what others don't is a base of the human social construct, and is our evolution of the core concept of how we compete for mates outside of being a good physical specimen. or do I have to make a personal blogpost on a beyond-science opinion blog to give this claim any validity

[quote]WHILE MILITANT ATHEISTS like Richard Dawkins may be convinced God doesn’t exist, God, if he is around, may be amused to find that atheists might not exist.[/quote] "MILITANT ATHEISTS", they've always got to start with the loaded rhetoric Anyway at least Dawkins is actually a scientist

[QUOTE=Shinbad;45348840]We naturally seek spirituality, not religion. [/QUOTE] No we naturally seek answers and understanding, and when the real answers are too indifferent or too complicated, people make up their own magical comforting answers.

[QUOTE=dai;45348945]making up excuses for things we don't understand is a base part of wanting to understand stuff. Taking that speculation and lying to say we truly know what others don't is a base of the human social construct, and is our evolution of the core concept of how we compete for mates outside of being a good physical specimen. or do I have to make a personal blogpost on a beyond-science opinion blog to give this claim any validity[/QUOTE] Religion isn't just focused on understanding. A huge part of religions is going out in society and acting out a set of values in order to improve the world.

Well that settles that. Christians: 1 Atheists: non-existent.

It is only human to find meaning when there's none because- to us- everything must happen for a reason to be sensical. Casuality, as a concept, is very difficult to let sink in. Atheist only means you don't believe in the existence of one or more gods. You might believe in reincarnation and magic and spirits and seers and ghosts and whatnot and still be atheist. One doesn't exclude the other. Atheism doesn't necessarily mean disregard of anything spiritual.