• Verizon’s “Six Strikes” Anti-Piracy Measures Unveiled
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[QUOTE=Chryseus;39215023]Just use file sharing websites, not quite as good as torrents but gets the job done.[/QUOTE] But torrents are file sharing?
[QUOTE=Stopper;39214005]Just FYI to anyone who'll fall under this - enable your torrent client's encryption.[/QUOTE] Enabling encryption doesn't stop your IP showing up in the tracker...
Encryption doesn't stop some bloke monitoring the torrent from getting your IP.
[QUOTE=sixtyten;39215028]But torrents are file sharing?[/QUOTE] I mean http file sharing sites like rapidshare, pretty hard to get caught using those.
The solution for this problem is very simple. Rent a VPS with unlimited bandwidth (you don't even need much RAM or space on it), create an SSH proxy on it, route your torrent traffic / all traffic through it. All your ISP would be able to see is a constant, encrypted connection between a server and your computer.
[QUOTE=Jacinth;39214326]Would they have any idea what you're downloading if it's from a private tracker?[/QUOTE] Generally they don't know what you are downloading, it's just that torrenting is an excessively chatty protocol. They know that you are torrenting, what is a different matter. I would not be surprised at all if they get false positives on this from shit like people downloading world of warcraft.
I find it funny that people missed this; [QUOTE]If more infringements are found after the sixth alert “nothing” will happen. The user will receive no more alerts and can continue using his or her Internet connection at full speed.[/QUOTE] This is just a warning system, you get 6 warnings but no final punishment.
Though the mpaa and the riaa will be able to ask the ISP for the IP address holder then sue them from there. That is the problem with this scheme.
Sure this will also lead to lawsuits in the future.
Verizon doesn't give two shits about piracy, this is just a plan to get people to pay the same for less
It doesn't seem like a good ISP in the first place.
What happens after 7
[QUOTE=VistaPOWA;39215177]The solution for this problem is very simple. Rent a VPS with unlimited bandwidth (you don't even need much RAM or space on it), create an SSH proxy on it, route your torrent traffic / all traffic through it. All your ISP would be able to see is a constant, encrypted connection between a server and your computer.[/QUOTE] Many problems with that: 1. Finding a VPS host that wont charge out of the ass for 'Unlimited' bandwidth and enough HDD space to download files too. 2. After finding a few, you need to make sure they allow their users to use proxies or torrent clients (or even transferring copyrighted material [if that is what you do]) 3. The user needs to know at least something about working with an Unix base machine and getting it all set up themselves. If you went through all that trouble, it would just be easier and beneficial to just install rTorrent then just download all finished files off the VPS via Filezilla.
[QUOTE=peepin;39218575]Many problems with that: 1. Finding a VPS host that wont charge out of the ass for 'Unlimited' bandwidth and [b]enough HDD space to download files too.[/b] 2. After finding a few, you need to make sure they allow their users to use proxies or torrent clients (or even transferring copyrighted material [if that is what you do]) 3. The user needs to know at least something about working with an Unix base machine and getting it all set up themselves. If you went through all that trouble, it would just be easier and beneficial to just install rTorrent then just download all finished files off the VPS via Filezilla.[/QUOTE] Traffic is only being passed through the VPS, data is not (or should not be) stored there. I'd rather do that than trust someone else's shady VPN. It's essentially like having your own personal VPN. (or if you configure it as such, it can [I]literally be[/I] your own VPN.) Also you can split the cost between you and friends to use.
Verizon's already annoying enough for having gimped our measly 200 kb/s connection to 115 kb/s for no reason other than apparently "we aren't supposed to have access to that" after contacting them about an available service upgrade. While really minor, stuff like this really makes me hate them as an ISP even more.
They should just repeat step 6 (which ever one slows your internet for some time) if every ISP did this it would deter me from "hypothetically" pirating.
[QUOTE=YourFriendJoe;39214285]Sadly most of the time ISP's don't actually look at what you're downloading, any torrent client to them means that you must be downloading the new hit blockbuster movies.[/QUOTE] because it usually is?
[QUOTE=Eltro102;39219994]because it usually is?[/QUOTE] Statistics are not evidence. Statistics are never evidence.
[QUOTE=Eltro102;39219994]because it usually is?[/QUOTE] Depends on the person. Humble Bundle soundtracks, Free music from various places, Linux stuff (the actual stuff), 100mb photos of people that exists for stupid reasons Saying that torrent traffic=pirate traffic is just as bad as saying ip address=spot on ID of the owner
Best solution: switch to a better ISP.
[QUOTE=Eltro102;39219994]because it usually is?[/QUOTE] there is enough non-infringing activity possible with a torrent that it isn't justifiable to say all torrent traffic is illegal.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS6-uw68DJQ[/media] Late, but relevant
[QUOTE=toaster_2.0;39218500]What happens after 7[/QUOTE] you win the internet One thing that the article mentions is that it might make people reconsider allowing free wi-fi - that would certainly suck major balls.
[QUOTE=vexx21322;39220353]Best solution: switch to a better ISP.[/QUOTE] Where else can I get a dedicated 300 Down 150 Up MBPS line and actually get those speeds 24/7 for a reasonable price.
[QUOTE=Delta616;39220549]Where else can I get a dedicated 300 Down 150 Up MBPS line and actually get those speeds 24/7 for a reasonable price.[/QUOTE] What could you possibly be doing that would need that kind of speed? Unless you were running a server.
[QUOTE=BreenIsALie;39220340]Depends on the person. Humble Bundle soundtracks, Free music from various places, Linux stuff (the actual stuff), 100mb photos of people that exists for stupid reasons Saying that torrent traffic=pirate traffic is just as bad as saying ip address=spot on ID of the owner[/QUOTE] this might for some people, but for the majority it is not, piracy and antiviruses are more than widespread enough for people to not be scared of viruses any more, along with the coverage of xyz torrent site being shut down has firmly pushed illegal piracy into the mainstream
[QUOTE=IPK;39215024]"verizon went bankrupt!" "ISPs went bankrupt!" "Anti-piracy went bankrupt!" "American politicians committed suicide!"[/QUOTE] wtf lol you're all blowing this [I]way[/I] out of proportion four god damn warnings before shit happens christ
[QUOTE=Eltro102;39220733]this might for some people, but for the majority it is not, piracy and antiviruses are more than widespread enough for people to not be scared of viruses any more, along with the coverage of xyz torrent site being shut down has firmly pushed illegal piracy into the mainstream[/QUOTE] a lot of people release their music exclusively through torrent websites. what about them?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;39220795]a lot of people release their music exclusively through torrent websites. what about them?[/QUOTE] Well then they're not technically pirating anything? P2P is legal, piracy is not
Hahahaha joke's on you Verizon my internet with you is already slower then 256kb/s!
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