• Woman tries to turn in StG 44 at gun buyback, cops refuse to melt down piece of history
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[QUOTE=Gears of duty;38791169]I'm no expert, but doesn't it use unique "short rounds" or something? I've read it before but I'm not too sure.[/QUOTE] 7.92×33mm Kurz Box of 20 for $15 [url]http://www.targetsportsusa.com/c-49-792x33mm-kurz-mauser-ammo.aspx[/url]
The lady who turned in the gun seems like someone who would annoy me. I mean even if she was ignorant, she turned in a piece of history that her father had given to her to a liberal gun control scheme.
Same ammo used in the MG34 and 42, iirc. They made a whole crapton, and I think they still produced it in West Germany. For only a bit later, until the .308 round was made.
20000 dollars sound a bit steep to me, you can buy them here for about 2000-3000 euros..
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;38791564]Same ammo used in the MG34 and 42, iirc. They made a whole crapton, and I think they still produced it in West Germany. For only a bit later, until the .308 round was made.[/QUOTE] STG 44 uses 7.92×33mm Kurz MG34 and MG42 use 7.92×57mm The 7.92x57mm has twice the energy of the Kurz.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;38791564]Same ammo used in the MG34 and 42, iirc. They made a whole crapton, and I think they still produced it in West Germany. For only a bit later, until the .308 round was made.[/QUOTE] The MG42/34 and the StG dont use the same ammo Its the same caliber, but the cartridge is way shorter [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.92%C3%9733mm_Kurz[/url] [editline]11th December 2012[/editline] motherfucking ninjas
The amount of money I would pay for an semi-automatic reproduction of the STG-44 in 7.92x33mm.
Quite a lucky find; even luckier that it didn't get turned into scrap.
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;38791610]The MG42/34 and the StG dont use the same ammo Its the same caliber, but the cartridge is way shorter [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.92%C3%9733mm_Kurz[/url] [editline]11th December 2012[/editline] motherfucking ninjas[/QUOTE] I always get mixed up on German ammo in WWII, and I can't even name a single Japanese round.
I. Want. That. Gun.
[QUOTE=OrionChronicles;38792192]I. Want. That. Gun.[/QUOTE] you have too many shush not many people own P90s and Beowulf .50 uppers [QUOTE=Zillamaster55;38791564]Same ammo used in the MG34 and 42, iirc. They made a whole crapton, and I think they still produced it in West Germany. For only a bit later, until the .308 round was made.[/QUOTE] you're thinking of the FG42
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;38792298] you're thinking of the FG42[/QUOTE] Ah, okay, I knew 42 was in there somewhere
I gotta say, I seriously respect the cop(s) who recognized its value and didn't melt it. I'm sure there are probably people in that department who would've taken it no questions asked.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;38792369]Ah, okay, I knew 42 was in there somewhere[/QUOTE] MKb 42(H) uses 7.92x33 Kurz :p
At first I read the title as cops melt down piece of history. Thank god that didn't happen.
[QUOTE=Tudd;38791321][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPnYQgHfog4[/media] Just to know that some Syrian rebels are holding $20,000 worth of history........[/QUOTE] i'd rather have these guns be used to death in war rather than being deactivated and hung in a museum for ameriburgers to gawk at (even though these examples are pristine) anyway, i'd kill to have one of these in 7.62x39.
[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;38791521]well, 5000 x $20000 so $100,000,000 assuming they're in the same condition as the one in the OP (not likely)[/QUOTE] Except the Fed won't let anyone import them even if they were cut into pieces with a torch. GCA and Hughes Amendment for ya. No imports, no new registries, that's the only reason these cost so much. They'd still be expensive but not $20,000 expensive. If the GCA and Hughes Amendment were abolished I guarantee you'd start seeing guns being imported from North Africa and the Middle East in huge numbers, there's so many rare antique guns over there that lots of people would love to put into collections it's not even funny.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;38790549]you can buy a .22lr reproduction for about 600$,[/QUOTE] I do have a lot of .22 caliber ammunition, but 600$ is like a fourth of my total money right now.
I'm really surprised that someone like Winchester, Colt or H&K haven't taken STG44 or other designs from WWII, gave them modern cartridges and re-made them.
[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;38792514]Except the Fed won't let anyone import them even if they were cut into pieces with a torch. GCA and Hughes Amendment for ya. No imports, no new registries, that's the only reason these cost so much. They'd still be expensive but not $20,000 expensive. If the GCA and Hughes Amendment were abolished I guarantee you'd start seeing guns being imported from North Africa and the Middle East in huge numbers, there's so many rare antique guns over there that lots of people would love to put into collections it's not even funny.[/QUOTE] And it wouldn't hurt all that much to have some official firearm companies setting up in those Middle Eastern countries with all the experienced gunsmiths they've got. I know I can't speak for everyone, but I would kill to visit Darra Adam Khel, Pakistan, and just get hands on knowledge with how firearms are manufactured by hand.
[QUOTE=Neat!;38792507]i'd rather have these guns be used to death in war rather than being deactivated and hung in a museum for ameriburgers to gawk at (even though these examples are pristine) anyway, i'd kill to have one of these in 7.62x39.[/QUOTE] Wow, rude. Yeah I totally would rather have those killing people than being used in museums WORLD WIDE in remembrance of a horrific war. Totally.
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;38792298]you have too many shush not many people own P90s and Beowulf .50 uppers[/QUOTE] I need to complete my collection
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;38792617]I'm really surprised that someone like Winchester, Colt or H&K haven't taken STG44 or other designs from WWII, gave them modern cartridges and re-made them.[/QUOTE] It'll happen one day, we already have a GSG copy in 22lr copy, so eventually we'll get ones in 7.62x39 or 5.56x45, maybe even 5.45x39mm. one day.....one day
[QUOTE=Native Hunter;38790727]Am I the only one who gets World At War memories from looking at this rifle?[/QUOTE] I am surprised you would get WaW memories considering the only game that made a big deal about it would be Medal of Honor Allied Assault. Since it had a mission where you had to capture one for Aliied command and then blow up the rest of the rifles inside a bunker.
[QUOTE=cqbcat;38791552]The lady who turned in the gun seems like someone who would annoy me. I mean even if she was ignorant, she turned in a piece of history that her father had given to her to a liberal gun control scheme.[/QUOTE] Reminds me of that one ass hole who let some artist in sanfransico melt down his fathers 1911 that he carried in WWII to turn it into a piece of art.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;38791156]That gun may have killed American soldiers in the war, even[/QUOTE] it must be destroyed immediately before it starts killing more americans
Nice, nice. I hate seeing history melted down into scrap. Some things just need to be preserved. Here's hoping it finds a home with someone who both appreciates it and is willing to bring it to the range once in a while.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;38791156]That gun may have killed American soldiers in the war, even[/QUOTE] Or brits. Or Soviets. Or a whole bunch of other nations.
[QUOTE=PaChIrA;38793305]Or brits. Or Soviets. Or a whole bunch of other nations.[/QUOTE] I think he mentioned Americans because the gun's in America now. But nice snipe anyway.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;38793437]I think he mentioned Americans because the gun's in America now. But nice snipe anyway.[/QUOTE] So that is what a snipe is? Oops.
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