[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;29266376]So because of a few bad apples, everyone else gets denied entry? You honestly don't see how idiotic that is?[/QUOTE]
Unless you have a way to filter out the so-called bad apples, yes.
You can go through people one-by-one, checking up their background, but that would slow immigration and bring up costs too much.
I'm waiting for you to provide a viable option.
[QUOTE=Georgeman;29266413]I am not a Conservative, why would I want to join a traitor's party led by Call me davey and Criminal Baroness Warsi.[/QUOTE]
He isn't talking about the party specifically. I thought you said that socially you were right? That would be social conservatism.
I do not want to conserve our Poverty, just to fix our country.
[QUOTE=Georgeman;29266470]I do not want to conserve our Poverty, just to fix our country.[/QUOTE]
What would you do to fix our country?
As a finn this is a historical moment, but for me not in a good sense.
"True Finns" or the literal translation "Basic finns" have gained a huge support.
I despise nationalistic people in general and this just adds more fuel into the ongoing depate.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;29266484]What would you do to fix our country?[/QUOTE]
Well, if you are speaking about the UK, I would promote more interest in getting a a Degree then staying here, also re-build our industry, and generally give our students a chance to get a good career.
Also stop Forign aid and Leave the EU.
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[QUOTE=Radman;29266506]As a finn this is a historical moment, but for me not in a good sense.
"True Finns" or the literal translation "Basic finns" have gained a huge support.
I despise nationalistic people in general and this just adds more fuel into the ongoing depate.[/QUOTE]
Then you hate 20% of the voters then?
I thought you hate students?
[QUOTE=NoDachi;29266552]I thought you hate students?[/QUOTE]
No, I just hate Socialist Students.
[QUOTE=Georgeman;29266544]
Then you hate 20% of the voters then?[/QUOTE]
While there are different reasons to vote for the party, to put it simply: yes.
[QUOTE=Radman;29266595]While there are different reasons to vote for the party, to put it simply: yes.[/QUOTE]
Then you hate your roots.
[QUOTE=Georgeman;29266561]No, I just hate Socialist Students.[/QUOTE]
The feeling is mutual, my friend.
[QUOTE=Georgeman;29266561]No, I just hate Socialist Students.[/QUOTE]
I don't see the problem with socialism. Norway, Sweden and Denmark, for example, has done great with socialism. Sure this isn't pure socialism, I agree that wouldn't work, but saying that everything socialistic is dumb is, well, dumb.
[B][quote]Nothing socialist in having the NHS[/quote][/B]
[h2]THERE IS NOTHING SOCIALIST IN TAKING MONEY FROM PEOPLE VIA TAXES AND GIVING THAT WEALTH TO OTHERS VIA MEDICAL AID?[/H2]
Oh my god your fucking posts make my eyes bleed.
In the same way people need healthcare, they need food too, right?
So why don't we tax everyone and then provide food for everyone?
Well, people have cars, right? Let's tax people and give cars to everyone who needs them.
Jesus Christ. In the political spectrum, you're the weird kid that smells funny, and no one likes.
Glaber and Ridge would spit on you, as would the liberally inclined of the forum.
I really hope that you are trolling, because otherwise you've a very sad individual.
[QUOTE=Georgeman;29266618]Then you hate your roots.[/QUOTE]
Why so? I think Finland is a great place to live don't get me wrong on that, but calling me "hating my roots" is pretty absurd to be honest. This is what nationalism creates.
[QUOTE=Contag;29266641][B][/B]
[h2]THERE IS NOTHING SOCIALIST IN TAKING MONEY FROM PEOPLE VIA TAXES AND GIVING THAT WEALTH TO OTHERS VIA MEDICAL AID?[/H2]
Oh my god your fucking posts make my eyes bleed.
In the same way people need healthcare, they need food too, right?
So why don't we tax everyone and then provide food for everyone?
Well, people have cars, right? Let's tax people and give cars to everyone who needs them.
Jesus Christ. In the political spectrum, you're the weird kid that smells funny, and no one likes.
Glaber and Ridge would spit on you, as would the liberally inclined of the forum.
I really hope that you are trolling, because otherwise you've a very sad individual.[/QUOTE]
I do not care about the Political Spectrum.
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[QUOTE=Radman;29266675]Why so? I think Finland is a great place to live don't get me wrong on that, but calling me "hating my roots" is pretty absurd to be honest. This is what nationalism creates.[/QUOTE]
Yes, TF aims to fix Finnland not destroy it like the Pirate/Green/Socialist party would.
[QUOTE=Georgeman;29266682]I do not care about the Political Spectrum.
Yes, TF aims to fix Finnland not destroy it like the Pirate/Green/Socialist party would.[/QUOTE]
You obviously don't care about using your fucking brain, either, if your posts are any indication.
At least understand the things you hate so much. I do not understand how someone could praise socialized healthcare [B]and then say they hate socialism in the same fucking post![/B]
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You know True Finns is a socialist party, right?
[QUOTE=Contag;29266734]You obviously don't care about using your fucking brain, either, if your posts are any indication.
At least understand the things you hate so much. I do not understand how someone could praise socialized healthcare [B]and then say they hate socialism in the same fucking post![/B]
:psyduck::psyduck:
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You know True Finns is a socialist party, right?[/QUOTE]
Having the NHS is Honorable, thats the only part of Socialism that's acceptable.
Okay, so you're more a socially conservative market socialist than anything else?
Socialism can be good, as long as it isn't totalitarian or too extreme?
[QUOTE=Georgeman;29266682]
Yes, TF aims to fix Finnland not destroy it like the Pirate/Green/Socialist party would.[/QUOTE]
Of course, TF is the only party that aims to fix Finland. All the other parties are out to destroy it, IT MUST BE A CONSPIRACY BY THE SWEDISH IMMIGRANTS
No, Socialism is evil, NHS was made by Liberals and Conservatives I believe.
[QUOTE=nikomo;29266424]Unless you have a way to filter out the so-called bad apples, yes.
You can go through people one-by-one, checking up their background, but that would slow immigration and bring up costs too much.
I'm waiting for you to provide a viable option.[/QUOTE]There doesn't need to be another option, collective punishment is ludicrous and inhumane. The amount of immigrants committing crime is nowhere near as much as fearmongers like to claim.
[QUOTE=Georgeman;29266181]No it is not, it allows for both sides of the story and unlike BBC that is very Biased.
Hunter-gatherers do not settle by nature of being hunter-gatherers.
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I never said warfare was good.[/QUOTE]
BBC is far from biased.
As humans we have developed to the point where we are able to break away from being hunter-gatherers because of our intelligence. We use our intuition, curiosity and reasoning to develop new and better things, much like our ancestors developed agriculture and settled down.
You're missing something, though.
It doesn't matter, at all now. They'll have their, what, 36 seats was it, for the next 4 years.
This whole system of selecting electives is stupid. Considering the advances in technology, we could poll people directly on issues instead of having to rely on overpaid idiots and get a true picture of what people think at that point instead of doing this shit every 4 years.
[QUOTE=Earthen;29266992]BBC is far from biased.
As humans we have developed to the point where we are able to break away from being hunter-gatherers because of our intelligence. We use our intuition, curiosity and reasoning to develop new and better things, much like our ancestors developed agriculture and settled down.[/QUOTE]
Why are there still hunter-Gatherers then?
It was out of necessity.
[QUOTE=Georgeman;29266618]Then you hate your roots.[/QUOTE]
There is a [b]huge difference[/b] between the nationalism that founded our country and the nationalism that exists today.
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[QUOTE=Georgeman;29267006]Why are there still hunter-Gatherers then?
It was out of necessity.[/QUOTE]
There are still hunter-gatherers because some choose to follow tradition, its a better way of living in their area, etc... There might even be those who oppose progressivism, which you obviously do.
[QUOTE=Georgeman;29266834]No, Socialism is evil, NHS was made by Liberals and Conservatives I believe.[/QUOTE]
Hahahahaha.
[QUOTE=Georgeman;29266834]No, Socialism is evil, NHS was made by Liberals and Conservatives I believe.[/QUOTE]
Socialism in it's pathological state might be not good for society, but in the end if we throw greed away Socialism is the way to go.
[QUOTE=Portalist;29267426]Socialism in it's pathological state might be not good for society, but in the end if we throw greed away Socialism is the way to go.[/QUOTE]
Greed is in human nature, and to be honest, I'm quite happy it is. Thats just me though.
[QUOTE=Georgeman;29266834]No, Socialism is evil, NHS was made by Liberals and Conservatives I believe.[/QUOTE]
Socialism? Evil? bwahahahahaha
We're gonna get a statue of hitler in most major cities.
Edit: Yep, our government now has the nationalist and "socialist" parties together. Add up.
Edit2: No, "white supremacy" is not going to go through or was it ever going to in Finland. "True finns" are the smallest of the 3 main parties right now and they will have to work with socialists and liberal left wing.
Edit3: Also some idiots don't understand that socialism is in effect in shitloads of countries already. Free health care being one of the best examples. Socialism can exist in a capitalist society if it goals to spread the profits of capitalism to as many people as possible.
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