[QUOTE=doommarine23;21768686]Doesn't mean Special Forces CAN"T BE REALISTIC
Vietcong didn't make you into some badass either.[/QUOTE]
I never played Vietcong but what I'm saying is juding from the trailer in the OP it looks really cliche.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;21768690]Like when everyone else on the airplane dies and the pilot starts to cry and tell you to just jump cause they're all dead. The facial animations are extremely well done too.[/QUOTE]
It had epic scenes in it, but I didn't feel emotionally attached to anyone because they were all nameless faces. It was mission after mission instead of missions linked by story.
Your plane getting shot up every level got really old towards the end anyway.
[QUOTE=The_Fly56556;21768712]It had epic scenes in it, but I didn't feel emotionally attached to anyone because they were all nameless faces. It was mission after mission instead of missions linked by story.
Your plane getting shot up every level got really old towards the end anyway.[/QUOTE]
That's kind of the point, you're just a soldier in the war machine and meant to feel some sympathy in terms of "god damn those guys just fuckin died for nothing"
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;21768702]I never played Vietcong but what I'm saying is juding from the trailer in the OP it looks really cliche.[/QUOTE]
Whaaat?
It's a really brilliant game, I recommend you try it out before you call it cliche.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;21768702]I never played Vietcong but what I'm saying is juding from the trailer in the OP it looks really cliche.[/QUOTE]
protip, watch the second trailer.
Kicking in doors and using MasterKey Shotguns for locked ones is kind of what Special Forces do.
[QUOTE=The_Fly56556;21768722]Whaaat?
It's a really brilliant game, I recommend you try it out before you call it cliche.[/QUOTE]
Can you quote me where I called it cliche?
[QUOTE=The_Fly56556;21768722]Whaaat?
It's a really brilliant game, I recommend you try it out before you call it cliche.[/QUOTE]
I think he means the MOH game
[QUOTE=doommarine23;21768720]That's kind of the point, you're just a soldier in the war machine and meant to feel some sympathy in terms of "god damn those guys just fuckin died for nothing"[/QUOTE]
Guys? You mean polygons without a trace of character.
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[QUOTE=doommarine23;21768734]I think he means the MOH game[/QUOTE]
Read his post again.
[QUOTE=The_Fly56556;21768737]Guys? You mean polygons without a trace of character.[/QUOTE]
Using that logic than every story is totally pointless, they're kind of meant to be symbolic and obviously you can't get that through your head, maybe I'm overly analyzing it.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;21768727]protip, watch the second trailer.
Kicking in doors and using MasterKey Shotguns for locked ones is kind of what Special Forces do.[/QUOTE]
I did, if you look back a page I even commented on how that trailer made me feel like there was hopefully more then what the first one showed me.
When did I say the breaching method using a masterkey and kicking in doors was unrealistic? I said blindly firing into a room is unrealistic.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;21768753]I did, if you look back a page I even commented on how that trailer made me feel like there was hopefully more then what the first one showed me.
When did I say the breaching method using a masterkey and kicking in doors was unrealistic? I said blindly firing into a room is unrealistic.[/QUOTE]
That's kind of what they do in training too, they rapidly scan for targets and shoot.
You're in an hostile area, you have to kill the enemy, you breach an enemy room what do you do? Fucking say hello?
[QUOTE=The_Fly56556;21768737]Guys? You mean polygons without a trace of character.
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Read his post again.[/QUOTE]
I was referring to the MOH game. There is no trailer of Vietcong in the OP.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;21768746]Using that logic than every story is totally pointless, they're kind of meant to be symbolic and obviously you can't get that through your head, maybe I'm overly analyzing it.[/QUOTE]
There was no story in Airborne, it was just missions from WW2 that the Airborne were used in. WW2 was the only thing linking them.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;21768757]That's kind of what they do in training too, they rapidly scan for targets and shoot.
You're in an hostile area, you have to kill the enemy, you breach an enemy room what do you do? Fucking say hello?[/QUOTE]
There is a ROE that you have to follow, in the video they blow the door and the instant they clear begin to fire, there is to pause to show you they're actively searching and recognizing targets. They're just running into a room, firing at 'hostiles' so they look macho.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;21768759]I was referring to the MOH game. There is no trailer of Vietcong in the OP.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;21768702]I never played Vietcong but what I'm saying is juding from the trailer in the OP it looks really cliche.[/QUOTE]
You didn't specify MoH, I assumed you were talking about a Vietcong thread. Bad writing on your part.
[QUOTE=The_Fly56556;21768776]You didn't specify MoH. Bad writing on your part.[/QUOTE]
No, actually it's bad understanding on your part. He said the trailer looked cliche before that comment.
It's bad reading on your part. "I never played vietcong -but- what I'm saying is judging from the [b]trailer in the OP[/b] it looks really cliche."
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;21768793]It's bad reading on your part. "I never played vietcong -but- what I'm saying is judging from the [b]trailer in the OP[/b] it looks really cliche."[/QUOTE]
Your post lacked proper grammar, bad writing on your part. Using 'but' doesn't introduce a new subject.
If you changed that 'it looks really cliche' to 'MoH looks really cliche it would of made more sense.
the end of the trailer freaked me the fuck out. I was like IED [quote]duck and cover[/quote]
As for everyone mentioning Vietnam what about fucking Korea. Its the least thought about war. It had thousand if not millions of deaths. Waves of Chinese and North Korean soldiers rushing you.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;21768791]No, actually it's bad understanding on your part. He said the trailer looked cliche before that comment.[/QUOTE]
Common Census is that you can't read.
Also, for reference this is what an [i]real[/i] door breach is like:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBex3WWHWbw[/media]
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;21768811]Common Census is that you can't read.
Also, for reference this is what an [I]real[/I] door breach is like:
[URL="http://www.facepunch.com/#"]View YouTUBE video[/URL]
[URL]http://youtube.com/watch?v=DBex3WWHWbw[/URL]
[/QUOTE]
I'm defending you and you're saying I can't read?
No, I was quoting you as an example of the aforemention census.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;21768811]Common Census is that you can't read.
Also, for reference this is what an [i]real[/i] door breach is like:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBex3WWHWbw[/media][/QUOTE]
That has to be fake, wars are always gritty and no one ever smiles or has fun.
I will admit [i]that[/i] post was bad writing on my part. I should have referred or quoted him to avoid any confusion.
No shit it's fake, it's US army soldiers goofing during training
[QUOTE=The_Fly56556;21768835]That has to be fake, wars are always gritty and no one ever smiles or has fun.[/QUOTE]
Really? It's obviously fake, it was my attempt at defusing the situation with humor. This is starting to get dangerously close to flaming one another.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;21768842]No shit it's fake, it's US army soldiers goofing during training[/QUOTE]
[img]http://proselyytti.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/thats_the_joke.jpg[/img]
I used a clever comedic device where I gave totally nil/unobvious reasons for saying it was fake in hopes that you would see this and understand that this is just a debate and I don't have anything against you.
[QUOTE=The_Fly56556;21768684]Played it, hoping for another like it.[/QUOTE]
then you can just buy that mappack
:rolleyes:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAf2cLmDl_k[/media]
There are a surprisingly large amount of these kinds of videos.
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=W9KiHJUdNU4[/url]
Real Special Forces CQB training, sure they don't instantly shoot but they still do it pretty fast and I'm sure in a real hostile area it would be much faster
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[QUOTE=The_Fly56556;21768848][IMG]http://proselyytti.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/thats_the_joke.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
With someone like you, I can't tell if you're serious. Sorry
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