After Brussels Attacks, Poland Turns Away Immigrants - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;50014465]Excuse me, is this you? [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYOy1tuVv3w[/media] ^ This was your response, just like the dude in the video. Care to elaborate? So you can't, that's why you're so condescending. [I]Okay then.[/I][/QUOTE] the only condescension here is coming from you seriously what even is the point of this post if not to antagonize me (with memes, out of all things)

[QUOTE=BananaMed;50009767]Do you perhaps have reading problems? And, since you go after the good old shilling accusation, I'll have you know, I have not voted for anyone last year because I don't think anyone represents me currently in the Parliment.[/QUOTE] He said that only 30% voted for them. The statistics you posted literally prove him correct, they only had 30% of the votes. He did not say that they didn't have the most votes of any party. He was implying that they had the most votes because the votes against them were split up between many other parties.

[QUOTE=WhyNott;50011586]Well, PiS won with 37% so he's not really wrong saying that only 30% of people wanted the current govt. It seems that he is wrong saying that most people who voted for PiS are old though.[/QUOTE] Well that and it doesn't seem like there's necessarily a large gradient between young and old voters regarding general left/right alignment (though I still need to look into it more). (BananaMed, I'll read your reply and get back to you once I'm more informed regarding Polish politics. That's likely to take a day or two from now on though, depending on when I'll make time to read through the party programme summaries.)

[QUOTE=BananaMed;50012700]Those treaties were signed during the reign of the previous party.[/quote] Treaties remain in effect regardless of who is in power, otherwise you'd have to re-sign treaties every four years. [quote]As far as I am aware, the new government can actually choose not to follow through with it. Regardless of what the consequences of this action will be.[/quote] Well, as long as you remain in the EU or the Schengen Area, first-entry countries are still your partners. The Refugee Convention goes all the way back to 1951. As I said, if the PiS wants to back out from all of that they are free to do so, but since they are not doing that, I don't see why it's such a conundrum. [quote]I am well aware of that. We had IRA bombing the English and a lot of other organizations that I don't really know a lot about. But actual major terrorist attacks carried out by Europeans seem to have died down some time ago. Now we are faced attacks that amass 3-digit numbers of casualties in a single strike.[/QUOTE] What I'm trying to establish is that you could attach terrorist organizations to any religion, or ideology. So it doesn't make any sense to refuse any refugees because they are muslims simply because ISIS is muslim too. It's disregarding the fact that a) islamic extremism in Europe is mostly homegrown rather than imported via the redistribution of asylum seekers, b) muslims are the biggest victims of ISIS by far, so it doesn't make any sense to lump asylum seekers and ISIS together on the principle that they share the same religion. [quote]People are afraid. [b]Even more so than ever.[/b][/quote] As in people in Poland, or in Europe? I would argue that depending on where you are from, [url=https://d28wbuch0jlv7v.cloudfront.net/images/infografik/normal/chartoftheday_4093_people_killed_by_terrorist_attacks_in_western_europe_since_1970_n.jpg]Europe in the 1970s-1990s was a way more scary place[/url].

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;50014465]Excuse me, is this you? [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYOy1tuVv3w[/media] ^ This was your response, just like the dude in the video. Care to elaborate? So you can't, that's why you're so condescending. [I]Okay then.[/I] [editline]27th March 2016[/editline] Back on topic, can't say I blame them, after all that's happened in Europe. At the very least, I'd strengthen immigration laws and regulations. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("More shitposting and memeshit, last chance" - Big Dumb American))[/highlight][/QUOTE] Anybody who begins a sentence with "hypothetically the blacks are being oppressed" has already demonstrated their lack of knowledge of American history and the way our society treats minorities. There have been many, many well-written posts over the years about this topic but posters of your ilk are never going to change their minds because you have such a raging hateboner for anything that fits your pigeonholed definition of "SJW." So people stopped trying.

[QUOTE=Dzonintz;50012882] I can't see this post as anything other than nitpicking and semantics. If you're safe in Lebanon, yet you refuse to be documented and throw away your ID while violently breaking through other European nation's borders, are you really a refugee, and do you even deserve to be called anything other than a leech? To become a refugee you first have to be approved that status by the UN.[/QUOTE] My point was that semantics can be a powerful thing. Barring immigrants from entering your country certainly sounds more okay than barring refugees. And sure, these people could potentially be safe in Lebanon and Jordan in a refugee tent camp, but first of all - do you really think it's fair to put an even heavier load on a couple of countries when we could instead help out by taking some into the EU (or at least help monetarily)? Proximity is basically the only argument, and honestly I think it's a pretty bad one. I think you'd help out putting out a house fire even if you had a neighbour in between you and it. On top of that, is it really reasonable to expect a refugee to just go "Okay, I guess I'm alive now, I don't mind my kids not being able to go to school or living in a tent for the next few years at all". People want what's best for themselves, these people aren't greedy for wanting to go somewhere where they can enjoy at least some fairly basic services. That doesn't take away their refugee status in my opinion. We took in a lot of refugees from the Balkan countries back in the 90's, guess we should just have left them in a tent camp just on the other side of the Austrian border or something. I dunno.